tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-20257999.post114661017927183757..comments2024-03-29T11:40:46.477+03:00Comments on Life in Israel: I love Israel!!Rafi G.http://www.blogger.com/profile/00699851287106903971noreply@blogger.comBlogger16125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-20257999.post-1146776752415029262006-05-05T00:05:00.000+03:002006-05-05T00:05:00.000+03:00lol - that's funny. yes, I think you have to go fo...lol - that's funny. yes, I think you have to go for more than lunch, though that would apply to most of the yeshivas you went to.. :-)Rafi G.https://www.blogger.com/profile/00699851287106903971noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-20257999.post-1146766562589081822006-05-04T21:16:00.000+03:002006-05-04T21:16:00.000+03:00I love Israel too. I thin its a great post. I am j...I love Israel too. I thin its a great post. I am jealous....as is my wife....especially my wife :-)<BR/><BR/>But I wonder, am I a telzer? or do you have to go there for more then lunch?Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-20257999.post-1146734201138028462006-05-04T12:16:00.000+03:002006-05-04T12:16:00.000+03:00and what did they give you? was it tasty?and what did they give you? was it tasty?Rafi G.https://www.blogger.com/profile/00699851287106903971noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-20257999.post-1146723459487650602006-05-04T09:17:00.000+03:002006-05-04T09:17:00.000+03:00After all reading all these posts, I headed down t...After all reading all these posts, I headed down to Burger King to order a Bopper, fries and coke.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-20257999.post-1146685076554463082006-05-03T22:37:00.000+03:002006-05-03T22:37:00.000+03:00Shaya - I know. I got your point. I was just being...Shaya - I know. I got your point. I was just being difficult. I had a tiring day here and was just being difficult. <BR/>You go to the Telz dinners? wow!! I started getting the invites recently. If I was in Chicago I do not know if I would or would not go...Rafi G.https://www.blogger.com/profile/00699851287106903971noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-20257999.post-1146684994160864392006-05-03T22:36:00.000+03:002006-05-03T22:36:00.000+03:00yaak - good linkageyaak - good linkageRafi G.https://www.blogger.com/profile/00699851287106903971noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-20257999.post-1146684517582704752006-05-03T22:28:00.000+03:002006-05-03T22:28:00.000+03:00RAF - what's eating you? I am by no means "attack...RAF - what's eating you? I am by no means "attacking" our time at telz or them directly. I was simply saying that as former talmidim of that specific institution, our current situation in life amuses me with that background, that's all. I appreciate my time there, still go to the telz dinners, and wear my hat every shabbos and yom-tov. They gave me a great background. I was not attacking them. Just amusing myself with reconciling their hashkafa and how we "chose" to believe. That's all. Either I am not as clear a writer as you and my points got all garbled, or you're turning into our mother nd looking to nitpik something to death. Either way - love ya!Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-20257999.post-1146680428088218752006-05-03T21:20:00.000+03:002006-05-03T21:20:00.000+03:00Nice anti-Meraglim post!Nice anti-Meraglim post!yaakhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08179304707239865515noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-20257999.post-1146667080524074582006-05-03T17:38:00.000+03:002006-05-03T17:38:00.000+03:00True, and while I do not consider myself a "Telzer...True, and while I do not consider myself a "Telzer" I do have fond memories of those days and am proud of having learned there. I just did not spend enough time there to call myself a Telzer more than 15 years later. Telz was great but I have have now lived in israel for over 15 years (almost 16) and love it.<BR/>Also, Telz has produced many students who can be found in a variety of walks of life, with varying opinions on things. That might not have been Telz yeshiva's idea and purpose, but they educated us with good learning skills and a good secular education and its graduates are well-equiped to deal in the real world and make decisions. We have drifted from the Telz path, and I am sure it is unusual for telz graduates to be like us, but I am still proud of my time there. and I have no idea what they would think of my style. Nor do I care.Rafi G.https://www.blogger.com/profile/00699851287106903971noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-20257999.post-1146663850005815532006-05-03T16:44:00.000+03:002006-05-03T16:44:00.000+03:00I am not disagreeing, and wasn't trying to compare...I am not disagreeing, and wasn't trying to compare the 2. I was simply saying - Look how far we've come! Forget the halachik aspects of hallel, it has been turned into a political statement as well. Just from a realistic and practical veiw, I was simply saying, hey look. 2 Telzers, who would not have expressed these ideas and opinions years ago, look where they are at. (don't try to tell me Telz loves eretz yisroel. They do, but in a very different vein than what you were expressing).Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-20257999.post-1146663057760109572006-05-03T16:30:00.000+03:002006-05-03T16:30:00.000+03:00Very nice Shaya. But let me just one point out tha...Very nice Shaya. But let me just one point out that one thing has nothing to do with the other. Hallel is a halachik decision - were the requirements for saying Hallel met or not is the debate between those who do and do not say hallel. You can love Israel and Eretz Yisrael without saying Hallel. Love for Israel is not what allows one to say Hallel. Nor does saying Hallel show one's love for Israel.<BR/>If you say hallel for a gut feeling, just because you love Israel, you might be doing something wrong and need to clarify if the requirements have been met. (I am not saying you were wrong - I accept both sides of the argument, and they both have basis in halacha. I am just saying, hellel is not an expression of zionism or love of Israel).Rafi G.https://www.blogger.com/profile/00699851287106903971noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-20257999.post-1146661975001783472006-05-03T16:12:00.000+03:002006-05-03T16:12:00.000+03:00Well Raf, there's a first for everything. Who'd a...Well Raf, there's a first for everything. Who'd a thunk a telzer alummi would write such words. Actually, I am very proud( and jealous) of you. <BR/><BR/>BUT, let me just say that I too would have freaked out our Rebbeim. Today, for the first time in my life, I saud Hallel on Yom Ha'atmaut! Albeit, without a Bracha. BUT,not only did I say it, I was the Chazan. <BR/><BR/>See, I am not as stubborn as you all think - even I can learn a new trick or two! lol<BR/><BR/>love ya<BR/><BR/>shayaAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-20257999.post-1146641276409844982006-05-03T10:27:00.000+03:002006-05-03T10:27:00.000+03:00Boppers are those foam or plastic hammers they bop...Boppers are those foam or plastic hammers they bop you on the head with. I guess you never spent Yom Ha'Atzmaut on ben yehuda (or at the ampi in BS). Boppers go together with that spray foam...Rafi G.https://www.blogger.com/profile/00699851287106903971noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-20257999.post-1146639185139634692006-05-03T09:53:00.000+03:002006-05-03T09:53:00.000+03:00c'mon! Get yourself a bopper! (What are boppers? C...c'mon! Get yourself a bopper! (What are boppers? Can you get them a Burger King along with the woppers?)<BR/><BR/>Great Post....<BR/><BR/>...and I'm in the mood for goose liver.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-20257999.post-1146631528901887302006-05-03T07:45:00.000+03:002006-05-03T07:45:00.000+03:00Simcha usually is (and I am not even celebrating i...Simcha usually is (and I am not even celebrating in the common sense of the term - at wild parties with boppers)Rafi G.https://www.blogger.com/profile/00699851287106903971noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-20257999.post-1146624586798824322006-05-03T05:49:00.000+03:002006-05-03T05:49:00.000+03:00Your simcha is contagious :)Your simcha is contagious :)I'm Haaretz, Ph.D.https://www.blogger.com/profile/14198623389927463386noreply@blogger.com