tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-20257999.post1258551554052611743..comments2024-03-29T06:05:20.562+03:00Comments on Life in Israel: And the winner is...Rafi G.http://www.blogger.com/profile/00699851287106903971noreply@blogger.comBlogger12125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-20257999.post-15007480252170523762009-02-12T01:13:00.000+02:002009-02-12T01:13:00.000+02:00I've been having some fun - please take a look at ...I've been having some fun - please take a look at <A HREF="http://sbehr.blogspot.com/2009/02/amateur-game-theory-analysis-elections.html" REL="nofollow">my analysis</A> and let me know what you think!Shaul Bhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13657787388625188732noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-20257999.post-53634241573499098642009-02-11T14:28:00.000+02:002009-02-11T14:28:00.000+02:00I did not say it would happen, but it is not compl...I did not say it would happen, but it is not completely impossible, and therefore not unreasonable that Peres would give her the opportunity to try. It would take a lot of compromise, on everyone's part, and I think Livni already showed she cannot accomplish such a thing. But I can see Peres giving her the first chance. Don't forget - he himself came from Kadima and does not like Bibi all that much. So with even a slight chance, he might give it to her.Rafi G.https://www.blogger.com/profile/00699851287106903971noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-20257999.post-30691895037989140342009-02-11T14:25:00.000+02:002009-02-11T14:25:00.000+02:00Why would Likud join her? In any case I seriously ...Why would Likud join her? In any case I seriously doubt that Bayit Hayehudi would actually join her government. I also don't believe that Tzippi Livni would make a government with the 3 religious parties.blukehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/03774763780910614203noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-20257999.post-90754613606968540782009-02-11T11:44:00.000+02:002009-02-11T11:44:00.000+02:00Moshe Feiglin is a closet fascist. He doesn't want...Moshe Feiglin is a closet fascist. He doesn't want to run for the Likud premiership because he believes in working with others there - he wants to "take over". He showed this all too clearly by not campaigning for the Likud. (Notice that other religious candidates received many more votes than he did in the primaries. Leah Ness for one)Effie Eitam, on the other hand, worked for the Likud, and hopefully will continue to do so.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-20257999.post-53064775893819257022009-02-11T11:10:00.000+02:002009-02-11T11:10:00.000+02:00Bayit Yehudi has mentioned they would not rule out...Bayit Yehudi has mentioned they would not rule out sitting in a Livni govt. Add Likud, Shas and UTJ and she has a government. I dont se eit happening, but it is not so unrealistic that she might convince Bibi to sit with her that Peres should not give her the chance to try.Rafi G.https://www.blogger.com/profile/00699851287106903971noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-20257999.post-68947998862405463692009-02-11T11:08:00.000+02:002009-02-11T11:08:00.000+02:00I don't see how Livni can make a government. Just ...I don't see how Livni can make a government. Just do the math, how does she get from 28 to 61. <BR/><BR/>Labor it seems, will really go to the opposition. if so she has 0 chance.<BR/>28 (Kadima)<BR/>15 (Lieberman)<BR/>--------------<BR/>43 <BR/>Where does she get another 18 seats from.<BR/><BR/>Even with Labor she is still 5 seats short.<BR/><BR/>For more see this post of mine <A HREF="http://jewishworker.blogspot.com/2009/02/post-election-analysis.html" REL="nofollow">Post election analysis</A>blukehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/03774763780910614203noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-20257999.post-6358326197104620082009-02-11T09:26:00.000+02:002009-02-11T09:26:00.000+02:00Shalom,You know that Jews are likened to fish by c...Shalom,<BR/><BR/>You know that Jews are likened to fish by chazal...<BR/><BR/>...well fish have about a 10 second memory.<BR/><BR/>Warmly,<BR/><BR/>SimonAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-20257999.post-86497162632744681002009-02-11T09:24:00.000+02:002009-02-11T09:24:00.000+02:00I was against Feiglin before the election but I am...I was against Feiglin before the election but I am rethinking.<BR/><BR/>Look, aside from pushing MF to 36 Bibi moved far far far away from the right. Coalition w/Kadima, Barak as DM. <BR/><BR/>Someone so far cannot be supported by MF. It is like Newt Gingrich supporting Barack Obama. It is no secret that MF is interested in 'stealing' if you want to call it that, the Likud from the current leadership. IF he just kowtows to them and is not an alternative - he cannot declare himself any different than anyone else.<BR/><BR/>So, if he had a realisitc chance of getting in- Vote Likud so you get right wing voices in the big party who can lead the party away from the current bozos. But if I am not realistic then you are just voting for Livni/Barak anyway.<BR/><BR/>History has shwon that when the left are partners of a Right led gov't the right always buckles to the left's demands. <BR/><BR/>So I think MF was right in the end. Actually his position for the future - and his plan is a long term plan - has improved.<BR/><BR/>Since I think this election will hurt Bibi in the Likud and there will be demands for his ousting which will create an opening for MF since there is no one the likud today with as much support as Bibi had and the next primaries will see a lot of contenders thinning things out giving MF a good chance.<BR/><BR/>We just need to daven that things are not messed up to badly by then.<BR/><BR/>Of ocurse, I think it is highly probable that we will have elections within another year.<BR/><BR/>No possible combination of the current crapshoot seems too stable.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-20257999.post-70098453542454582642009-02-11T08:44:00.000+02:002009-02-11T08:44:00.000+02:00I agree with that. Livni took votes not from the L...I agree with that. Livni took votes not from the Likud, but from the left that collapsed. <BR/>Likud lost votes not to Meretz, but to Lieberman and other right wing parties (less though to them)Rafi G.https://www.blogger.com/profile/00699851287106903971noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-20257999.post-73719432081771202842009-02-11T08:40:00.000+02:002009-02-11T08:40:00.000+02:00Kadima won because the left has a lot more common ...Kadima won because the left has a lot more common sense then the right. Meretz and Labor collapsed, if Meretz had gotten 6 seats and Labor 15 it would have been 27-23 Likud. However, the left understood that a vote for Merezt was a vote for Bibi and voted form Kadima. <BR/><BR/>The right on the other hand as usual shot itself in the foot. If people had voted Likud instead of Leiberman the Likud would have won easily.blukehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/03774763780910614203noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-20257999.post-23674031425547794802009-02-11T08:14:00.000+02:002009-02-11T08:14:00.000+02:00I can't believe who in their right minds would hav...I can't believe who in their right minds would have voted for "more of the same" - mind boggling. Is it any wonder Israel's in the mess it is, when we have such morons walking around?<BR/><BR/>The main problem as I see it is the sheer number of choices the voter has - abnormal! So many wasted votes; such a lack of clear majority - kadima has most votes but only less than 1/4 of the population back her.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-20257999.post-18297157502259656662009-02-11T07:47:00.000+02:002009-02-11T07:47:00.000+02:00I'm also disappointed. I can't believe he bungled ...I'm also disappointed. I can't believe he bungled this and I can't believe she might actually be a PM. :(Commenter Abbihttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07753256568022159103noreply@blogger.com