tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-20257999.post2952446301532473887..comments2024-03-28T18:05:05.267+02:00Comments on Life in Israel: Yeshiva Zionism courses to soon startRafi G.http://www.blogger.com/profile/00699851287106903971noreply@blogger.comBlogger9125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-20257999.post-90431205948037237342014-10-29T13:28:54.657+02:002014-10-29T13:28:54.657+02:00There are strings attached with money. Perhaps thi...There are strings attached with money. Perhaps this will push these yeshivoth to work on funding, and slimming down their budgets. And, yeah, I know. There's just isn't a lot of money out there anymore.Esser Agarothhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/12853681733864707489noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-20257999.post-63262535834197624082014-10-29T12:55:03.919+02:002014-10-29T12:55:03.919+02:00I thought about your first point (more specificall...I thought about your first point (more specifically, are Arabs exempt from these requirements).<br /><br />The answer is simple. A country owes its own citizens certain things, including an education. Non-citizens do not need to be funded by the government. So if they want money, there are strings attached, as there often are with money.yoni r.noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-20257999.post-69448119333699057482014-10-29T08:28:41.998+02:002014-10-29T08:28:41.998+02:00Backfire, yes.
I can see it now,...a State appro...Backfire, yes. <br /><br />I can see it now,...a State approved tour guide trying to secularize Meron! The bachurim will surely start rolling their eyes, and tuning him out. Then later they'll get him to dance with them. Eventually, the direction of influence will be reversed. :-)<br /><br />Look at Birthright, and who took part in founding it. It has backfired. Instead of indoctrination into secular, Israeli, State loyalism, at least some of these young Jews have been ending up in yeshivas. :-)<br /><br />Esser Agarothhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/12853681733864707489noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-20257999.post-20931880014362348172014-10-29T01:21:25.262+02:002014-10-29T01:21:25.262+02:00Sounds like atypical 8th grade or high school yesh...Sounds like atypical 8th grade or high school yeshiva graduation trip. Get acquainted with the country.<br />Could be done first days of Bein Hazemanim or begin the zman a day or two earlier.<br />drivewithcaren@gmail.comhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/05143610533423270886noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-20257999.post-39261289358701299622014-10-29T00:00:55.455+02:002014-10-29T00:00:55.455+02:00What a stupid, childish requirement.
This will c...What a stupid, childish requirement. <br /><br />This will certainly backfire and anyone subjected to this nonsense will be less likely to think positively of the State.Herbnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-20257999.post-32177995143507903232014-10-28T18:05:34.219+02:002014-10-28T18:05:34.219+02:00Wouldn't only the foreign students be required...Wouldn't only the foreign students be required to fulfill these studies?<br /><br />At first I thought that it could backfire on the State, because there's no reason why rabbeim couldn't include criticism in their shiurim of those places visited. Even if only approved tour guides had to be used for the tours, there is no reason why rabbeim could not as their own 2 cents after the students trips, and tour guides attempts at glorifying the State, and secularizing the Holy sites.<br /><br />Furthermore, the visits to Holy sites might help improve students knowledge of Na"Kh. ;-)Esser Agarothhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/12853681733864707489noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-20257999.post-27797370074447700712014-10-28T17:37:32.626+02:002014-10-28T17:37:32.626+02:00Who will do the teaching? If not actual non-chare...Who will do the teaching? If not actual non-chareidim then it will be quite easy to pervert the program:<br /><br />for the Holocaust sites, included are: Yad Vashem, <br /><br />Here is the museum put up to the Holocaust the Zionists caused God to bring on us!<br /><br /> Yad Mordechai Museum, <br /><br />Here is the monument to evil people who flouted God`s will and established Israel.<br /><br />.: Knesset, <br /><br />Here is the centre of the Zionist wickedness<br /><br /> - a visit to the Knesset or Supreme Court or some other governing office<br /><br />Here wicked so-called judges sit and pervert our Torah in order to destroy i.<br /><br /> - a visit to an army or border police unit<br /><br />Here are fools who think they are the real defense around here when we actually are.Mighty Garnel Ironhearthttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09571194550300367249noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-20257999.post-58497641403300244372014-10-28T17:29:41.064+02:002014-10-28T17:29:41.064+02:00Read the Kikar article, he makes a very good point...Read the Kikar article, he makes a very good point. They can no longer claim that it's because there's no money. (Which was in any case laughable because the chutznikim are very good for the economy.) This is pure social engineering on people whose way of life they don't like/are afraid of.SB, Beit Shemeshnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-20257999.post-12867517402264145142014-10-28T17:13:18.598+02:002014-10-28T17:13:18.598+02:00True, that most Yeshivot anyway would go and know ...True, that most Yeshivot anyway would go and know of the religious sites, which, of course, is very good; but as you say, the govt, etc. sites might be a problem, especially the notorious supreme court and knesset which has lost its Jewishness. That's the 'bad' part of taking govt. money. Is it really worth it?Anonymousnoreply@blogger.com