tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-20257999.post305533136259720794..comments2024-03-18T19:59:12.814+02:00Comments on Life in Israel: Shabbos or JachnunRafi G.http://www.blogger.com/profile/00699851287106903971noreply@blogger.comBlogger10125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-20257999.post-2932879198205623982012-10-30T18:37:22.390+02:002012-10-30T18:37:22.390+02:00This - once again - boils down to the fact that ev...This - once again - boils down to the fact that every day, in every way, Israel is fast becoming a theocracy - just like Iran or Saudi Arabia. <br /><br />No longer is there room for free thought, or for taking the risk of maintaining any sort of life style other than Torah Judaism, in Israel. If these two guys have found a viable market for Jachnun let them exploit it. They are way past barmitzvah age and so know they are responsible for their own souls. Similarly, any customers who wish to buy their product will already know the moral consequences of doing so. <br /><br />Democracy and the ability to take responsibility for one's action, whether or not they fit the norms of orthodox Judaism are being sacrificed on the altar of expediency.Darth Zeidahhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11885872955106929227noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-20257999.post-50163867747350649482012-10-30T18:34:34.549+02:002012-10-30T18:34:34.549+02:00This comment has been removed by the author.Darth Zeidahhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11885872955106929227noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-20257999.post-11712527151034570802012-10-30T14:55:16.266+02:002012-10-30T14:55:16.266+02:00and being that Jachnun is the Yemenite version of ...and being that Jachnun is the Yemenite version of ashkenazi cholent, it cooks overnight and ised to be a hot meal on Shabbos day, it is very likely preparing Jachnun for Shabbos does not require these two men to be mechalel shabbos. selling it and operating a restaurant would be a problem. They, these two young men or anybody else, could, if they wanted to, easily find a way to do this without chilul shabbos.Rafi G.https://www.blogger.com/profile/00699851287106903971noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-20257999.post-71221119846430482342012-10-30T13:14:31.170+02:002012-10-30T13:14:31.170+02:00dont know, but I have asked that question before a...dont know, but I have asked that question before as well. the "status quo" is something very difficult to pin down as to what it includes or how it works.<br />Despite that, thats what the UTJ rep who spoke to the media claimed.Rafi G.https://www.blogger.com/profile/00699851287106903971noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-20257999.post-48502276823205820692012-10-30T13:12:39.144+02:002012-10-30T13:12:39.144+02:00Why is that when secular people do something it...Why is that when secular people do something it's breaking the status quo but when orthodox groups change it is not a change in the status quo?The Wayhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/02450690035446068510noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-20257999.post-23375659657657031512012-10-30T11:32:06.921+02:002012-10-30T11:32:06.921+02:00Innovation? They are opening a busines (so what it...Innovation? They are opening a busines (so what it if is not profitable) on Shabbos. That doesn't sound so innovative to me. That sounds like increasing chilul Shabbos and that is something that the any frum Jew (not just the UTJ) would think is bad.<br /><br />An innovation might be to to open up a charitable organization that provides FREE food on shabbos for the youth of Nachalot. But opening up a restaurant doesn't sound good tome. jacknoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-20257999.post-66484477974963597592012-10-30T07:53:15.877+02:002012-10-30T07:53:15.877+02:00possibly they are only getting into this because o...possibly they are only getting into this because of the election.Ben Waxmanhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/02798895161663664689noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-20257999.post-86583728750748333802012-10-30T02:39:05.071+02:002012-10-30T02:39:05.071+02:00The local UTJ branch of Jerusalem has declared thi...<i>The local UTJ branch of Jerusalem has declared this as a breach of the status quo and say they will fight this.</i><br /><br />How typical. Could UTJ not be just a tad more constructive in its approach instead of immediately saying "No!" to any innovation?Darth Zeidahhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11885872955106929227noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-20257999.post-23525859186170046282012-10-29T23:13:45.593+02:002012-10-29T23:13:45.593+02:00This comment has been removed by the author.Josephhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13407460404034430042noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-20257999.post-41034445977113819302012-10-29T18:18:06.948+02:002012-10-29T18:18:06.948+02:00Old news. There is a Jachnun bar open every shabba...Old news. There is a Jachnun bar open every shabbat on hillel street. AFAIK it's been open on shabbat for at least 5 years.Yehudahhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/10371803818586408694noreply@blogger.com