tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-20257999.post3548078355129207059..comments2024-03-28T09:43:50.919+02:00Comments on Life in Israel: Mi K'Amcha YisraelRafi G.http://www.blogger.com/profile/00699851287106903971noreply@blogger.comBlogger12125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-20257999.post-67271256047906793082009-11-09T16:34:09.174+02:002009-11-09T16:34:09.174+02:00rw,
the likelihood of the mother not being halakh...rw,<br /><br />the likelihood of the mother not being halakhically jewish is pretty slim amongst the chilonim, not so much by the russians, but still. <br /><br />by telling ppl not to do it the hospital and leaving it to rabbanim / mohelim, you may decrease the likelihood that it happens at all (for some families)hubscubshttps://www.blogger.com/profile/10197388364331929686noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-20257999.post-63197324019144010302009-11-09T09:56:18.163+02:002009-11-09T09:56:18.163+02:00I'm a little concerned that if the bris is bei...I'm a little concerned that if the bris is being done in the hospital by a doctor, is anyone checking that the mother is Jewish by halachic standards? Would the doctor care enough to ask?<br />This could result in non-Jewish children having bris milah,,, which could lead to all kinds of confusion. <br />I think it should be left to the rabbanut.rwnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-20257999.post-69000521153136308212009-11-09T07:12:20.435+02:002009-11-09T07:12:20.435+02:00To Commenter Abbi,
The question that one must ask...To Commenter Abbi,<br /><br />The question that one must ask is when the circumcision is being done? If it's in the hospital, then it's probably not on the 8th day--please see Genesis 17:12 (And at the age of eight days, every male shall be circumcised to you throughout your generations...). That's directly from the Torah, not 'Chareidi interpretation of Halacha'.Shalom, Cherry Hillnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-20257999.post-90120688452158348552009-11-09T05:41:26.732+02:002009-11-09T05:41:26.732+02:00he was a child of one of those babies, but he hims...he was a child of one of those babies, but he himself had never been circumcisedRafi G.https://www.blogger.com/profile/00699851287106903971noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-20257999.post-89080389872289369812009-11-09T02:11:02.260+02:002009-11-09T02:11:02.260+02:00i am confused - why did the soldier need a second ...i am confused - why did the soldier need a second bris?garfieldnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-20257999.post-58045113502139997002009-11-08T15:20:01.640+02:002009-11-08T15:20:01.640+02:00I don't see why not to believe it. tell us wha...I don't see why not to believe it. tell us what is not credible about this story..<br /><br />Of course, even if it is not true, many hold that stories can be made for inspirational purposes or for teaching a lesson, though it would then lose its "amazing" quality.Rafi G.https://www.blogger.com/profile/00699851287106903971noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-20257999.post-42356254685440660322009-11-08T15:06:19.868+02:002009-11-08T15:06:19.868+02:00Is there anything believable in the story from Mis...Is there anything believable in the story from Mishpacha Magazine that you posted.<br /><br />The story about the Russian Mohel sounds implausible on many different levels, and Mishpocha magazine aren't exactly known for dealing with the strict historical accuracy of the stories that they publish.Michael Sedleyhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/02684514303911193073noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-20257999.post-21267969423399726762009-11-08T13:36:22.063+02:002009-11-08T13:36:22.063+02:00Oy, believe me when I say, that really was an unin...Oy, believe me when I say, that really was an unintentional pun.Commenter Abbihttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07753256568022159103noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-20257999.post-17910570744776419532009-11-08T12:34:52.255+02:002009-11-08T12:34:52.255+02:00"bare bones mila"
snicker snicker. I li..."bare bones mila"<br /><br />snicker snicker. I like it.<br /><br />I will check if I still have the paper and if I do, will see what the claim actually was.<br /><br />It wasnt really relevant to the story, so I dont know why i wrote it..Rafi G.https://www.blogger.com/profile/00699851287106903971noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-20257999.post-3715562062948795972009-11-08T12:33:11.470+02:002009-11-08T12:33:11.470+02:00Hmm, from what I understand it's pretty common...Hmm, from what I understand it's pretty commonplace for the hospital doctors to perform mila, but I don't have hard stats to back that up, but I doubt Mishpacha has stats to back up there claim either. I know it's common for close family members to attend chiloni mila, so if they were just performing a medical procedure, there would be no need for family to attend. <br /><br />They might not do it according to charedi interpretation of halacha, but I do think it's bare bones mila.Commenter Abbihttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07753256568022159103noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-20257999.post-27924060229052290382009-11-08T12:16:19.775+02:002009-11-08T12:16:19.775+02:00if what you are saying is true, then they are only...if what you are saying is true, then they are only concerned about the parnasa of the mohalim.<br /><br />I understood that they are performing a medical procedure and not following halachic ritual. <br /><br />Truth is I did not read the article too carefully and am not sure. At the time I was wondering why not just solve the problem by training the doctors to do proper mila.<br /><br />but I understood the problem to be that the doctors are not doing halachic mila. I might be mistaken.Rafi G.https://www.blogger.com/profile/00699851287106903971noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-20257999.post-45142682352976838612009-11-08T12:13:37.713+02:002009-11-08T12:13:37.713+02:00The story about the Russian mohel was nice but why...The story about the Russian mohel was nice but why is it a "dangerous but growing phenomenon" that doctors are performing brissim in hospitals? It's actually the norm for chilonim to have the bris done in the hospital by a doctor with only a few family members in attendance and have a big party at a later date (we just went to such a "bris" for my husband's business partner)<br /><br />As far as I know, the doctor/mohel does an actual bris, not just a circumcision, it's just in a hospital, not a shul or catering hall.Commenter Abbihttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07753256568022159103noreply@blogger.com