tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-20257999.post4081454765098172474..comments2024-03-28T15:14:16.180+02:00Comments on Life in Israel: is Rav Steinman against TOV?Rafi G.http://www.blogger.com/profile/00699851287106903971noreply@blogger.comBlogger44125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-20257999.post-16865201029073816982008-11-12T06:21:00.000+02:002008-11-12T06:21:00.000+02:00Results are in. Moshe Abutbol won with 43%. Acco...Results are in. Moshe Abutbol won with 43%. According to polls in Temura, Shalom would have had an extra 10% had Vaknin backed out. Kol HaKavod to the Lerner campaign - they slung no mud and kept within more rules against litter and legal postings than anyone else. May that be a blessing to the city.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-20257999.post-21597425370580149702008-11-12T01:37:00.000+02:002008-11-12T01:37:00.000+02:00so, did ur guy Shalom Lerner win??so, did ur guy Shalom Lerner win??Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-20257999.post-65121750287920661262008-11-12T00:46:00.000+02:002008-11-12T00:46:00.000+02:00Looks like abutpolLooks like abutpolAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-20257999.post-85450431672216742012008-11-11T23:53:00.000+02:002008-11-11T23:53:00.000+02:00who won the election-anyone know?who won the election-anyone know?Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-20257999.post-60185135527925525032008-11-11T23:32:00.000+02:002008-11-11T23:32:00.000+02:00Tov is Metzuyan!Tov is Metzuyan!Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-20257999.post-3330491641886167032008-11-11T22:32:00.000+02:002008-11-11T22:32:00.000+02:00The kiddush hashem is following daas torah, k'chol...<I>The kiddush hashem is following daas torah, k'chol asher yorucha, following yiftach b'doro k'shmuel b'doro."</I><BR/><BR/>Groan. Not this drivel again. Why can't people who proclaim themselves to be speaking in the name of Torah actually learn some Torah and see how the Rishonim and Acharonim explain this concept? What are they, Karaites?!Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-20257999.post-28192792639480150972008-11-11T21:35:00.000+02:002008-11-11T21:35:00.000+02:00This has been an educational experience-I think th...This has been an educational experience-I think that some of us who would have otherwise felt the need to vote for gimmel because of daas torah now understand.<BR/><BR/>Thank you Rav Malinowitz!<BR/><BR/>Thank you Rafi!Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-20257999.post-21330524770208166252008-11-11T21:15:00.000+02:002008-11-11T21:15:00.000+02:00"The kiddush hashem is being mevatel your thought ..."The kiddush hashem is being mevatel your thought process for the understanding that the gedolei yosroel know more.<BR/><BR/>The kiddush hashem is realizing that i dont know everything, and i dont know all the cheshbonos. but i WILL trust in the gedolei yisroel.<BR/><BR/>The kiddush hashem is following daas torah, k'chol asher yorucha, following yiftach b'doro k'shmuel b'doro."<BR/><BR/>Not in the Judaism I practice.Commenter Abbihttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07753256568022159103noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-20257999.post-84443302036440316382008-11-11T21:13:00.000+02:002008-11-11T21:13:00.000+02:00anonymous at 5:18 wow that's an interesting drasha...anonymous at 5:18 wow that's an interesting drasha about singers being chilulei Hashem.<BR/><BR/>my interpretation was a bit different:<BR/><BR/>party that isn't kulo Torah = Tov because they want to "send a message" to Gimmel leadership (probably an unfortunate comment in retrospect)<BR/><BR/>voting for a chiloni = Vaknin<BR/><BR/>someone who builds a life of kulas = Shalom Lerner who wears a kipa sruga (sic on the charedi misinterpretation of application of kula, halacha, chumra etc - I've been given quite a few stringent piskei din from Rav Shachter shlita who I guess they'd also call dati leumi)<BR/><BR/>Rav Shteinman didn't specify any of the parties or people not to vote for because it wasn't relevant. He said who to vote for, and explained in general the problems with some of the more popular alternatives. This wasn't time to attack Tov itself (and maybe it never will be).Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-20257999.post-85538027864511224752008-11-11T20:59:00.000+02:002008-11-11T20:59:00.000+02:00Rafi-if you hear something can you post right away...Rafi-if you hear something can you post right away? rafi-we're counting on youAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-20257999.post-50017439349801501412008-11-11T20:30:00.000+02:002008-11-11T20:30:00.000+02:00Does anyone know where we can get election results...Does anyone know where we can get election results late tonight or tomorrow morning?Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-20257999.post-83803266121990923202008-11-11T19:48:00.000+02:002008-11-11T19:48:00.000+02:00Tov is a wonderful symptom of change. B'Ezras Hash...Tov is a wonderful symptom of change. B'Ezras Hashem soon there will be an end to discrimination against dati leumi gedolim and they will be respected as charedi gedolim are.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-20257999.post-4195315312194105882008-11-11T18:55:00.000+02:002008-11-11T18:55:00.000+02:00If you think for one minute that the Rabbis wheele...If you think for one minute that the Rabbis wheeled out in favour of Gimmel know or care one little bit about municipal issues like parks, street cleaning, taxes, planning, transport then you are deluding yourself.<BR/><BR/>They want your money for their institutions.<BR/><BR/>Think for yourself what you want your neighberhood to look like, and vote accordingly.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-20257999.post-32571584747539137652008-11-11T18:44:00.000+02:002008-11-11T18:44:00.000+02:00We really do need ahavas yisrael. Gimmel is great,...We really do need ahavas yisrael. Gimmel is great, Tov is terrific!Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-20257999.post-8875515464118624262008-11-11T18:43:00.000+02:002008-11-11T18:43:00.000+02:00Let's Bring Moshiach: Well said.Let's Bring Moshiach: Well said.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-20257999.post-42410837806680325692008-11-11T18:16:00.000+02:002008-11-11T18:16:00.000+02:00David, i think you mean well, but it is your type ...David, i think you mean well, but it is your type of comments that is fueling this whole anti-TOV rederick. <BR/>TOV is not trying to replace gimmel, it's trying to supplement gimmel, providing an accepting environment for those that don't feel comfortable in and/or are excluded from camp gimmel.<BR/>It's about putting insignificant differences aside and realizing that we are all Jews who want to serve Hashem. Just not everyone agrees the exact way to do so.<BR/>Once we realize that, all our other differences are not as importantAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-20257999.post-40489607078324233632008-11-11T18:05:00.000+02:002008-11-11T18:05:00.000+02:00Thank you "David"! But does "Chana" agree with yo...Thank you "David"! But does "Chana" agree with you?Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-20257999.post-39115342101355827022008-11-11T18:03:00.000+02:002008-11-11T18:03:00.000+02:00Tov's showing today will go down in haredi history...Tov's showing today will go down in haredi history as the day that haredim woke up and started to try to abandon insanity which reigns in our midst. B'Ezrat Hashem Gimmel will be put out of business by Tov in the national elections as well.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-20257999.post-31019339299228383252008-11-11T17:36:00.000+02:002008-11-11T17:36:00.000+02:00Just listening... :)Just listening... :)Shaul Bhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13657787388625188732noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-20257999.post-51511197761576179072008-11-11T17:18:00.000+02:002008-11-11T17:18:00.000+02:00the problem with tov is that eli friedman is a sin...the problem with tov is that eli friedman is a singer. based on the gemara in the first perek of gittin - eli must be relying on kulos in order to sing (with or without music). and not only that - but he is machti es ha rabim, as we saw in the gimmel poster that they listen to his music (even though they adhere to the words of the gedolim). and that is why tov must be banished.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-20257999.post-58758294833122647292008-11-11T17:08:00.000+02:002008-11-11T17:08:00.000+02:00anonymous has been rather quiet regarding the chal...anonymous has been rather quiet regarding the challenge to describe which kula he is referring to. Quiet = losing credibilityAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-20257999.post-52389042030420425992008-11-11T16:55:00.000+02:002008-11-11T16:55:00.000+02:00Fanatic,stop your nonsense.RBS Power=RBS PowerFanatic,stop your nonsense.<BR/>RBS Power=RBS PowerAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-20257999.post-44505156208641606502008-11-11T16:41:00.000+02:002008-11-11T16:41:00.000+02:00Not according to RBS Power's url trail...Not according to RBS Power's url trail...Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-20257999.post-2637452281634330442008-11-11T16:37:00.000+02:002008-11-11T16:37:00.000+02:00rbs power=rbs powerrbs power=rbs powerAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-20257999.post-70060688142724614312008-11-11T16:17:00.000+02:002008-11-11T16:17:00.000+02:00Why do certain haredim insist on speaking of the "...Why do certain haredim insist on speaking of the "litvishe" world, this world and another world. Some of us have gedolim such as HaRav Malinowitz who we go by and yes he is litvishe. You are generalizing by dividing everything up into "worlds." There are different rabbis, there are different gedolim with different opinions who-yes, believe it or not-belong to the same world.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.com