tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-20257999.post4888806843371370988..comments2024-03-28T09:43:50.919+02:00Comments on Life in Israel: Yom Ha'Atzmaut - plenty to be thankful forRafi G.http://www.blogger.com/profile/00699851287106903971noreply@blogger.comBlogger12125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-20257999.post-71121999763088122762007-04-26T10:59:00.000+03:002007-04-26T10:59:00.000+03:00moi - of course politics was involved in the decis...moi - of course politics was involved in the decision, but so what. <BR/>a) there was no real debate on it. The Chief Rabbinate decided and wrote their psak, and the government followed. I do not recall seeing any articles in the various newspapers complaining about religious coercion ad that we cannot give in to the hareidim and whatever else. It was decided and everyone accepted it.<BR/>b)nobody threatened anybody. The religious oparties did not say push it off or else... sure, the government knew that would happen if they insisted the days stay according to the calendar. But the threats and insistences did not take place.Rafi G.https://www.blogger.com/profile/00699851287106903971noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-20257999.post-29128292190923364682007-04-26T10:51:00.000+03:002007-04-26T10:51:00.000+03:001) All the newspapers gave out flags from Bank Hap...1) All the newspapers gave out flags from Bank Hapoalim.<BR/>2)It's a bit disingenuous to imply that Israel postpones the holiday for Shabbat because the state honors Shabbat--it's only because of political pressure.mother in israelhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13715046177293916034noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-20257999.post-2701439378145034942007-04-25T17:45:00.000+03:002007-04-25T17:45:00.000+03:00Rafi,Thank you for putting this in proper perspect...Rafi,<BR/><BR/>Thank you for putting this in proper perspective.We're the ones who have to put up with themhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01053331977465408238noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-20257999.post-46966217755872944702007-04-25T16:34:00.000+03:002007-04-25T16:34:00.000+03:00I think that people who have a problem to be thank...I think that people who have a problem to be thankful are Israelis who never lived in chutz laaretz and don`t know what it means to work with non-jews and having to ask for leaving early on Friday afternoon, or not be able to work exceptionally on Shabbos (just one time!)on an important project in order to make the deadline.<BR/>They do not realize that a non-jew will not easily understand why you have absolutely to leave at 4.00 on friday and why 4.15 will not do- its only 15 minutes.<BR/>Here these problems do not exist.<BR/><BR/>Another gruop of people is I believe people who lived in a heavily Jewish environment and had only minimal contact with the non-jewsAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-20257999.post-80814470961914617172007-04-25T10:02:00.000+03:002007-04-25T10:02:00.000+03:00elchonon - I could nto make it.. my wife had alrea...elchonon - I could nto make it.. my wife had already made plans... If I want to be able to disappear at ungodly hours of the night, I have to respect my wife's plans and participate!!!<BR/><BR/>ari - you are right. I forgot maariv. I never did that opinion.<BR/><BR/>batya - exactly my thoughtsRafi G.https://www.blogger.com/profile/00699851287106903971noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-20257999.post-53173885926916631022007-04-25T08:41:00.000+03:002007-04-25T08:41:00.000+03:00Exactly, Rafi.Exactly, Rafi.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-20257999.post-33671709857264167872007-04-25T04:02:00.000+03:002007-04-25T04:02:00.000+03:00NU!!!! you march to chomesh ???NU!!!! you march to chomesh ???Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-20257999.post-23692504534525167912007-04-24T09:10:00.000+03:002007-04-24T09:10:00.000+03:00When I got back from t'fillah last night, I posted...When I got back from t'fillah last night, I posted<BR/>http://shilohmusings.blogspot.com/2007/04/why-on-yom-haatzmaut-i-say-hallel-with.html<BR/><BR/>We must differentiate between what G-d has done for us and what the politicians are destroying.Batyahttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11246929075812590204noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-20257999.post-60690452782967966902007-04-24T08:57:00.000+03:002007-04-24T08:57:00.000+03:00RAFI,"Do you say Hallel or do you not say Hallel? ...RAFI,<BR/><BR/>"Do you say Hallel or do you not say Hallel? If you do say Hallel, do you do say full Hallel or half Hallel? Do you say Hallel with a bracha or without a bracha?"<BR/><BR/>don't forget hallel at maariv or not.<BR/><BR/>have you been checking the draft posts on my computer? i wanted to post something on yom haatzmaut that mentioned many of the exact points you mentioned, but i did not have time to finish because i'm busy with exams. (i think my post would have been nastier though.) maybe i'll make it a belated post.<BR/><BR/>ELCHONON:<BR/><BR/>"however I feel that one who is a zionist cannot excuse his lack of patriotism on the corupt goverment"<BR/><BR/>we agree?Lion of Zionhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/10342299133387602141noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-20257999.post-3412843705859697342007-04-24T08:55:00.000+03:002007-04-24T08:55:00.000+03:00This comment has been removed by the author.Lion of Zionhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/10342299133387602141noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-20257999.post-45032944275409994862007-04-24T07:56:00.000+03:002007-04-24T07:56:00.000+03:00Personaly, I dont say hallel since I am against th...Personaly, I dont say hallel since I am against the foundation of the state.. however I feel that one who is a zionist cannot excuse his lack of patriotism on the corupt goverment.. patriotism is for the homeland.. regardless of who the ruling party is. In america its different is we are patriots of democracy.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-20257999.post-62630412033424504932007-04-24T07:00:00.000+03:002007-04-24T07:00:00.000+03:00Amazing post. Well stated.Amazing post. Well stated.Neil Harrishttps://www.blogger.com/profile/12797772082427806345noreply@blogger.com