tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-20257999.post56844111038560635..comments2024-03-28T09:43:50.919+02:00Comments on Life in Israel: Interesting "psak" by Rav Aviner: who were the Macabbees?Rafi G.http://www.blogger.com/profile/00699851287106903971noreply@blogger.comBlogger15125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-20257999.post-40674426923336989482009-01-08T14:23:00.000+02:002009-01-08T14:23:00.000+02:00I think this might be the source. You might want t...I think this might be the source. You might want to add it to the post as a possible source :-). Also, maybe you want to add this blog to your blogroll lol (ravaviner.com)<BR/><BR/>http://www.ravaviner.com/2008/12/chanukah-chareidi-or-secular.htmlAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-20257999.post-4400500043688792582008-12-22T19:33:00.000+02:002008-12-22T19:33:00.000+02:00Okay, you have a point there. Tangentially, I've ...Okay, you have a point there. Tangentially, I've wondered why Rav Aviner agreed to do an SMS service. For one thing, I'd think he's too busy. For another, there is not way to give a decent answer to just about anything. Everything is too short and easily misconstrued; or so I've thought...Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-20257999.post-61360179992656490282008-12-22T16:42:00.000+02:002008-12-22T16:42:00.000+02:00how detailed ad complex an answer can you expect f...how detailed ad complex an answer can you expect for an sms service?<BR/><BR/>I know it is not a psak (which is why it was in quotation marks). But it is a shu"t service...Rafi G.https://www.blogger.com/profile/00699851287106903971noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-20257999.post-7687120657677819842008-12-22T16:40:00.000+02:002008-12-22T16:40:00.000+02:00Oh, and Rafi, I hardly think that was a 'psak' by ...Oh, and Rafi, I hardly think that was a 'psak' by Rav Aviner. An 'observation' or 'comment' or even 'definition'; but a 'psak'. I don't think that term has any relevance here.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-20257999.post-50510286298475716312008-12-22T16:39:00.000+02:002008-12-22T16:39:00.000+02:00I agree it is a pretty simplistic answer. OTOH, t...I agree it is a pretty simplistic answer. OTOH, there were times in the field on the 'wrong' side of the border this time of year when I really identified with the Hashmonaim! ;-) Yes, we really thought that today's approach to 'sifra v'seifa' was as close as one might get. I still do. I just recognize it isn't simple.<BR/><BR/>Seriously, whatsinaname, would you do away then with 'binu shnot dor v'dor' ?Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-20257999.post-18350668591562610922008-12-22T15:07:00.000+02:002008-12-22T15:07:00.000+02:00The Chasmonaim,(70 years after the story of Chanuk...The Chasmonaim,(70 years after the story of Chanuka) brought the Romans into Judea when the two Chasmonai brothers became engaged in a civil war. One brother contacted Rome in order to oust his brother from the leadership, leading directly to churban Bayit Sheini.<BR/><BR/>That should be the lesson we learn from Chanuka. Sin'at Chinam. Today's politics are no different.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-20257999.post-33743900422775550012008-12-22T13:39:00.000+02:002008-12-22T13:39:00.000+02:00In my opinion this is less of a psak and more of a...In my opinion this is less of a psak and more of a: "Ask a stupid question, get a stupid answer."<BR/><BR/>You can not possibly relate the maccabis to today's world. Its like asking if Julius Ceaser would be more like Sadaam Hussein, George Bush, or Fidel Castro? The answer is neither, and it was a stupid question asked by someone with little or no understanding of historical truths. <BR/>(wow that came out stronger than i intended when i started... still true!)Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-20257999.post-54389519323900111402008-12-22T13:26:00.000+02:002008-12-22T13:26:00.000+02:00He is right -- the Maccabess were all hesder boys ...He is right -- the Maccabess were all hesder boys (and later, secular soldiers) while the sages were Chareidim. Proof -- there is reaosn to suggest that the miracle of oil was a much later creation by the sages in order to take away all the focus of the miraculous victory.<BR/><BR/>(cf. 6 day war vs. Satmar Rebbe -- God doesnt do miracle with secualr people.)<BR/><BR/>D.A.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-20257999.post-54739646304050638792008-12-22T13:00:00.000+02:002008-12-22T13:00:00.000+02:00That dialogue was hysterical. It was great.That dialogue was hysterical. It was great.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-20257999.post-41952574544286018842008-12-22T12:50:00.000+02:002008-12-22T12:50:00.000+02:00Ah, G-d bless you! I love it!:)Ah, G-d bless you! I love it!<BR/>:)Shaul Bhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13657787388625188732noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-20257999.post-73383351565798248472008-12-22T12:36:00.000+02:002008-12-22T12:36:00.000+02:00http://lifeinisrael.blogspot.com/2007/12/religious...http://lifeinisrael.blogspot.com/2007/12/religious-and-secular-fathers-explain.htmlRafi G.https://www.blogger.com/profile/00699851287106903971noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-20257999.post-67238354593308798862008-12-22T12:34:00.000+02:002008-12-22T12:34:00.000+02:00I saw a link to the article about it. I think I ev...I saw a link to the article about it. I think I even wrote about it last year. I will look for itRafi G.https://www.blogger.com/profile/00699851287106903971noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-20257999.post-78601865329767129352008-12-22T12:33:00.001+02:002008-12-22T12:33:00.001+02:00isn't it? don't we celebrate their success? if it ...isn't it? don't we celebrate their success? if it was not good, why do we celebrate hanukkah?Rafi G.https://www.blogger.com/profile/00699851287106903971noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-20257999.post-6857274091156634682008-12-22T12:33:00.000+02:002008-12-22T12:33:00.000+02:00There was a hysterical script that was read out on...There was a hysterical script that was read out on Radio Kol Chai a year or two ago - two conversations between a father and son. One pair was chiloni and one was charedi... and both fathers had to field some uncomfortable questions about who the Maccabim were...<BR/><BR/>If you can find a link to this sound file, I'll be most grateful!Shaul Bhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13657787388625188732noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-20257999.post-72192831113500194032008-12-22T12:31:00.000+02:002008-12-22T12:31:00.000+02:00Is it a good thing to be like the Macabbees?Is it a good thing to be like the Macabbees?Anonymousnoreply@blogger.com