tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-20257999.post6431318054225237526..comments2024-03-28T18:05:05.267+02:00Comments on Life in Israel: the abomination beach in JerusalemRafi G.http://www.blogger.com/profile/00699851287106903971noreply@blogger.comBlogger7125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-20257999.post-73320763479492111262014-05-28T23:19:33.919+03:002014-05-28T23:19:33.919+03:00Way too much clothing on those people to be at a r...Way too much clothing on those people to be at a real beach....Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-20257999.post-60052639037541858632014-05-28T22:26:55.150+03:002014-05-28T22:26:55.150+03:00why would it not bother you to have an event creat...why would it not bother you to have an event created and planned to be of a fun sexual nature in jerusalem. it probably wont make god smileAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-20257999.post-18732585594995114812014-05-28T21:10:51.949+03:002014-05-28T21:10:51.949+03:00Unless an area is 100% haredi (and even then no), ...Unless an area is 100% haredi (and even then no), the haredim have no right to declare an area "their area" or "their ghetto." This is the crux of why so many non-haredi of Beit Shemesh are sick and tired of this arrogant attitude, and why we are sympathetic with people from other cities in Israel who would fight to stop Haredi influx. They need to make up their mind -- either STOP telling other people what to do, or don't cry when others don't want them to move in. PICK ONE.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-20257999.post-42740970462197938652014-05-28T19:33:15.552+03:002014-05-28T19:33:15.552+03:00perhaps yerushalayim is the ghetto , though I dont...perhaps yerushalayim is the ghetto , though I dont think they count gilo, beit hakerem, malcha, katamon, etc as part of the ghetto...<br />either way, we hear plenty of it all around the country. stores in tel aviv that wanted to open,. they wanted public transportation in tel aviv on shabbos...Rafi G.https://www.blogger.com/profile/00699851287106903971noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-20257999.post-68223607163849488372014-05-28T19:32:02.144+03:002014-05-28T19:32:02.144+03:00I have no problem understanding the mixing in and ...I have no problem understanding the mixing in and telling others what they can or cannot do, but once you accept that as a society we have to fix each other, and not just live for ourselves, you cant stop others from trying to fix you Rafi G.https://www.blogger.com/profile/00699851287106903971noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-20257999.post-49734954767231944872014-05-28T18:00:49.573+03:002014-05-28T18:00:49.573+03:00"These people, who regularly tell Israeli soc..."These people, who regularly tell Israeli society to mix out of trying to change or influence the haredi community and all we want to do is to be left alone to live our own lives the way we want to, and that we choose to live in our own self-made ghetto, feel that only goes one way. Leave us alone, but we can tell you what to do."<br /><br />I think many Charedim would respond that Yerushalayim is part of the ghetto. You would hear much less objection to this if it were in Tel Aviv or Haifa.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-20257999.post-30105042408399627032014-05-28T17:27:28.894+03:002014-05-28T17:27:28.894+03:00"These people, who regularly tell Israeli soc...<br />"These people, who regularly tell Israeli society to mix out of trying to change or influence the haredi community and all we want to do is to be left alone to live our own lives the way we want to, and that we choose to live in our own self-made ghetto, feel that only goes one way. Leave us alone, but we can tell you what to do."<br /><br /><br />Agreed that that is how it appears to a chilloni. But if you believe in objective truth, and not the modern nonsense that truth is whatever anyone wants to believe in, then you have an obligation to act based on that truth. Yes, even if it means telling everyone else to leave you alone (because you are living the truth and they are not) and you also telling them what to do (because you are living the truth and they are not).<br /><br />If you don't believe that your truth is THE truth up to the point of imposing it on others, how can you justify giving your baby son a bris?SB, Beit Shemeshnoreply@blogger.com