tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-20257999.post7100234668246152933..comments2024-03-28T21:53:53.990+02:00Comments on Life in Israel: Banning the Rabbanut from performing weddingsRafi G.http://www.blogger.com/profile/00699851287106903971noreply@blogger.comBlogger13125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-20257999.post-65349324166420699102013-11-20T20:50:39.051+02:002013-11-20T20:50:39.051+02:00michael
the majority of jews marry through united...michael<br /><br />the majority of jews marry through united synagogue or the majority of jews who marry another jew do so in a united synagogue service? in other words, what is the percentage of intermarriage in britain?Ben Waxmanhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/02798895161663664689noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-20257999.post-64840345998307475732013-11-20T14:18:18.182+02:002013-11-20T14:18:18.182+02:00General question: In the UK, what is the ratio of ...General question: In the UK, what is the ratio of Haredi and Orthodox affiliated Jews compared to Conservative, Reform, and unaffiliated?Joshnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-20257999.post-18224135809708295102013-11-20T09:13:02.003+02:002013-11-20T09:13:02.003+02:00As others have pointed out (including my brother),...As others have pointed out (including my brother), you can't compare Britain to the US.<br />In Britain, the majority of Jews marry through the (Orthodox) United Synagogues which has extensive records. This is similar to most of Europe, South America, South Africa and Australia (and New Zealand) where the default expression of Judaism is Orthodox.<br /><br />In the US the system is much less structured, and ask any Ba'al Tshuva from the US, it is often very difficult for them to confirm that they are really Jewish, and I'm talking about Jews who care about their own Jewish Status.<br />Michael Sedleyhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/02684514303911193073noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-20257999.post-79751918643183994992013-11-20T08:40:09.133+02:002013-11-20T08:40:09.133+02:00yep, millet system. that is the name of turkish sy...yep, millet system. that is the name of turkish system giving selected churches control over their parishioners.Ben Waxmanhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/02798895161663664689noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-20257999.post-41820382153502531592013-11-20T08:32:14.970+02:002013-11-20T08:32:14.970+02:00The millet system? The millet system? Rafi G.https://www.blogger.com/profile/00699851287106903971noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-20257999.post-26447739241464927682013-11-20T08:23:20.854+02:002013-11-20T08:23:20.854+02:00the millet system doesn't prevent what you cal...the millet system doesn't prevent what you call anarchy, that's a myth. Ben Waxmanhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/02798895161663664689noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-20257999.post-19906571587328730662013-11-20T08:20:53.174+02:002013-11-20T08:20:53.174+02:00i think he meant many orthodox won't marry a B...i think he meant many orthodox won't marry a BT.Ben Waxmanhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/02798895161663664689noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-20257999.post-54711351860046862882013-11-19T22:57:12.455+02:002013-11-19T22:57:12.455+02:00Too lazy to cut and paste here.... Banning the Isr...Too lazy to cut and paste here.... <b><a href="http://esseragaroth.blogspot.co.il/2013/11/banning-rabbanut-from-performing.html" rel="nofollow">Banning the Israeli Rabbinate</a></b>Esser Agarothhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/12853681733864707489noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-20257999.post-66919471776186921332013-11-19T21:47:29.466+02:002013-11-19T21:47:29.466+02:00I don't see the connection. Orthodox won'...I don't see the connection. Orthodox won't marry Reform because it's likely that a Reform "Jew" is not Jewish according to Halachah. And even if they are, why would an Orthodox Jew marry someone who isn't Orthodox?Avihttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15987913203857736139noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-20257999.post-48038966208589661372013-11-19T21:44:17.927+02:002013-11-19T21:44:17.927+02:00The vast majority of non-religious want to marry t...The vast majority of non-religious want to marry traditionally. The secular minority are merely more vocal and given more visibility. Breaking the rabanut is not going to satisfy this secular minority, and others who are marrying non-Jews, or rather cannot get married in Israel because it is a mixed marriage.<br />It is too bad that the Haredim are working against the rabanut and now the Bayit Yehudi is letting itself being dragged into that as well by yesh Atid and frankly, itself.Joshnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-20257999.post-53749027064135067192013-11-19T20:30:21.785+02:002013-11-19T20:30:21.785+02:00One of the reasons it's so complicated here is...One of the reasons it's so complicated here is that so many people are the first generation getting married in Israel, so there aren't family records.<br />And please don't use the anarchy of the USA. Also, remember that this is the Holy Land and we must take that fact seriously.Batyahttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09402874037427009327noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-20257999.post-47864116998527708882013-11-19T16:14:34.272+02:002013-11-19T16:14:34.272+02:00I believe that in Britain (certainly and I think o...I believe that in Britain (certainly and I think other parts of Europe) they do keep records of who is Jewish and maintain lists of Mamzerim. For this reason any marriage between two British people is (normally) quickly approved. Any marriage with someone born in the USA who is not religious takes much longer for the London Beis Din to approve, and in some cases the United Synagogues (of Britain) will not permit any of their Rabbis to perform the wedding service.<br />Notwithstanding all of the complaints of the Rabbanut (and there are many, valid complaints), keeping lists and registries is a very important public service which they provide for us and our children (and future generations).Rabbi Sedleyhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/03216379873253870218noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-20257999.post-64378598099355280412013-11-19T15:54:11.567+02:002013-11-19T15:54:11.567+02:00And Orthodox people will not marry Reform people a...And Orthodox people will not marry Reform people at all. American Jewish communities are becoming completely polarized. You really want Israel to become more segregated, with families telling their children they can't date their neighbor?<br /><br />Yeah, we know it doesn't affect the 10% of country who are haredi. And it won't affect the 6% of the country that are anti-religious secular. But do you really want to screw over 60% of the country??Anonymousnoreply@blogger.com