tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-20257999.post7213264080421773550..comments2024-03-28T21:53:53.990+02:00Comments on Life in Israel: Interesting psak from Rav Elyashiv: No more Mi She'Beirach on shabbosRafi G.http://www.blogger.com/profile/00699851287106903971noreply@blogger.comBlogger11125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-20257999.post-13833544177618008172008-01-01T06:29:00.000+02:002008-01-01T06:29:00.000+02:00hopefully he does not need it... :-)hopefully he does not need it... :-)Rafi G.https://www.blogger.com/profile/00699851287106903971noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-20257999.post-40877392868091129782007-12-31T23:45:00.000+02:002007-12-31T23:45:00.000+02:00Too bad I can't say a mi sheberach for R' Eliyashi...Too bad I can't say a mi sheberach for R' Eliyashiv now that he needs it...Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-20257999.post-33909151587728691542007-12-31T18:09:00.000+02:002007-12-31T18:09:00.000+02:00wolf - I have grown up in shuls ranging from Young...wolf - I have grown up in shuls ranging from Young Israel to yeshivish to Baalebatish to Chabad to hassidishe shteibels, etc. I have never seen a gabbai/rav say that to anybody... Maybe it was more because you were a kid...Rafi G.https://www.blogger.com/profile/00699851287106903971noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-20257999.post-20149128593748589452007-12-31T17:31:00.000+02:002007-12-31T17:31:00.000+02:00I have an interesting post Understanding davening...I have an interesting post <A HREF="http://jewishworker.blogspot.com/2005/05/understanding-davening.html" REL="nofollow"> Understanding davening: שבת היא מלזעוק ורפואה קרובה לבא</A> explaining why we say שבת היא מלזעוק ורפואה קרובה לבא when we make a Mi Shebeirach l'choleh on Shabbosblukehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/03774763780910614203noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-20257999.post-31481256390953978462007-12-31T17:09:00.000+02:002007-12-31T17:09:00.000+02:00This was the impression I always had too. When I ...This was the impression I always had too. <BR/><BR/>When I was nine years old and the gabbai started making a mi sheberach, I went up to the bimah to submit a name. Upon seeing me, the gabbai informed me that it was only for people who are seriously ill, not someone with a tummyache. I told him that the person I was submitting had cancer.<BR/><BR/>The WolfBrooklynWolfhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/03994285019137108636noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-20257999.post-52406688876313761022007-12-31T16:47:00.000+02:002007-12-31T16:47:00.000+02:00Nope, no hiddush here at all. It just isn't an is...Nope, no hiddush here at all. It just isn't an issue that any synagogue rav wants to fight over, and there higher priority issues to teach.<BR/><BR/>We always did inform anyone interested. One doesn't want to open up the kitrug/judgement on someone who isn't already in some sort of danger.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-20257999.post-69909412435306879712007-12-31T15:54:00.000+02:002007-12-31T15:54:00.000+02:00Mike- I have never heard it before now..Shaya - th...Mike- I have never heard it before now..<BR/><BR/>Shaya - that is what they mean by what I wrote <I>On the other hand, many people are attributing it to the fact that he had just said that we cannot say the mi she'beirach for the sick on shabbos.<BR/></I>Rafi G.https://www.blogger.com/profile/00699851287106903971noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-20257999.post-86492987026606833122007-12-31T15:47:00.000+02:002007-12-31T15:47:00.000+02:00Following the logic in gemara by other sucjh insta...Following the logic in gemara by other sucjh instances, maybe RSY fell weak b/c God was telling him to NOT mess with the tefillah that Klal Yisroel has accepted.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-20257999.post-58459068002811299452007-12-31T12:15:00.000+02:002007-12-31T12:15:00.000+02:00Growing up, this is what I was always taught (not ...Growing up, this is what I was always taught (not by the gabbai, though...). <BR/><BR/>In that case, however, you probably don't need to add "shabbos hi milizok".Mikeagehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15827275300296295639noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-20257999.post-77741851483571907802007-12-31T11:09:00.000+02:002007-12-31T11:09:00.000+02:00while it is true that any sick person's situation ...while it is true that any sick person's situation can worsen, we generally do not consider that unless his specific situation is one in which he is at such risk. Maybe we base it subjectively ona specific sick person, maybe percentages - I do not know.<BR/><BR/>But there are many halachos abotu what one can and cannot do for sick people on shabbos, and there are many differences between sick with danger and sick without danger. We do nto say that you can do everythign for someone who is sick without danger just because there is a chance his situation can get worse...Rafi G.https://www.blogger.com/profile/00699851287106903971noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-20257999.post-55511593459205446842007-12-31T11:05:00.000+02:002007-12-31T11:05:00.000+02:00Not that I am one to disagree with him but any sic...Not that I am one to disagree with him but any sick person there is a possibility that the sickenss can worsen. When will hear some profound statements? I was in shul this shabbos and the mi shemereach were made as usual. Have a great dayAnonymousnoreply@blogger.com