tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-20257999.post7682228464154798686..comments2024-03-28T21:53:53.990+02:00Comments on Life in Israel: The Committee Against Concerts and Anything FunRafi G.http://www.blogger.com/profile/00699851287106903971noreply@blogger.comBlogger13125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-20257999.post-79731611435141468732008-04-14T17:30:00.000+03:002008-04-14T17:30:00.000+03:00The issue with the Chabbad concert isn't the conce...The issue with the Chabbad concert isn't the concert, but rather Chabbad itself.<BR/><BR/>Only Christians believe that the messiah died and will return. Jews don't believe that.<BR/><BR/>This dangerous sect (Rosenblum is wrong; THIS is the most dangerous thing to Judaism- posing as something kosher when it is the triefest of the treif) must be put in cheirem.<BR/><BR/>Total cheirem.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-20257999.post-36039549005655471092008-04-14T09:39:00.000+03:002008-04-14T09:39:00.000+03:00We're not going this year.. Too much "YECHI" last ...We're not going this year.. Too much "YECHI" last year.<BR/><BR/>...but now that it might be banned... <BR/><BR/>HMMMMMMMM<BR/><BR/>-D.A.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-20257999.post-26509510224181466382008-04-14T09:00:00.000+03:002008-04-14T09:00:00.000+03:00A Daf...You are correct about Kupa and herd mental...A Daf...<BR/><BR/>You are correct about Kupa and herd mentality. We were called 3 different times and visited once in order to commit to going to the Melave Malka. The fact that we had a family simcha that evening just didn't seem to register with them.<BR/><BR/>Phrases like "everyone is going" and "you can make a table with all of your friends" were added to the push.<BR/><BR/>I know that they exist, I know that they give out money and I'll give to them. Why do they need such a hard sell?Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-20257999.post-75902724538928658762008-04-14T04:25:00.000+03:002008-04-14T04:25:00.000+03:00Well, the concert happened. MBD and Shwekey perfor...Well, the concert happened. MBD and Shwekey performed, and the world kept on spinning. baruch hashem. it's a pesach miracle.Chaimhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08236429066890015749noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-20257999.post-91762958958014589142008-04-13T23:22:00.000+03:002008-04-13T23:22:00.000+03:00We in RBSA should be well aware of what gedolim sa...We in RBSA should be well aware of what gedolim say vs. what they are quoted as saying.<BR/><BR/>2 recent issues: 1)Shefa Shuk and the maybe cherem and 2)The Kupa poster with Rav Chaim Kanievsky saying to give only to them.(BTW for my fellow BTYA members...after this week's drahsha did anyone ask the Rav what he felt about Kupa using a picture of gedolim putting money into a box? Actually Kupa even put a picture of the Rav with their poster on Purim to collect Matanos Le'evyonim. If Kupa isn't a "herd" mentality then what is?) But I digress.<BR/><BR/>I think that something is going very wrong in our mesorah when Rabbonim are quoted and misquoted about so many things.<BR/><BR/>Just my 10 agrorot.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-20257999.post-13976784245020631302008-04-13T19:14:00.000+03:002008-04-13T19:14:00.000+03:00It sounds like it is getting uglier and uglier.It sounds like it is getting uglier and uglier.Jack Steinerhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16625864271071630940noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-20257999.post-15388632707079308872008-04-13T18:57:00.000+03:002008-04-13T18:57:00.000+03:00i guess then the door has been officially opened t...i guess then the door has been officially opened to ask - how do we know anyone's letters aren't forged? if they can claim ROY's are, whose to say theirs aren't? and what about RCK's regarding that last couples wedding - maybe his was forged? etc.....<BR/><BR/>let's go further -= who says any psak given or sefer written isn't forged?Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-20257999.post-21910154852095722542008-04-13T18:26:00.000+03:002008-04-13T18:26:00.000+03:00the difference may very well be Israel and the US....the difference may very well be Israel and the US. In Israel these vaads have acquired much more power and influence than in the US...<BR/><BR/>But fear not, the US is usually only a few years behind the chumros of Israel. If it does take hold here, in a few years it very well might be happening in the US as well.Rafi G.https://www.blogger.com/profile/00699851287106903971noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-20257999.post-73916253414134818352008-04-13T17:08:00.000+03:002008-04-13T17:08:00.000+03:00After what MBD wrote in his interview with Voz Iz ...After what MBD wrote in his interview with Voz Iz Neias, I don't think he's going to be backing out of concerts anymore. Unless the show is cancelled all together (like it was in London.)<BR/><BR/>They are losing power, and I think as time goes on more Rabanim will start supporting (albeit separate seating and no intermission) more shows. <BR/><BR/>People will understand that instead of cutting off the hand, you apply medicine to the infection and when dealt with properly, it gets healed. <BR/><BR/>The fact that there have been/will be so many major concerts in the U.S. show that the long term effect of that Lipa ban was zero. <BR/><BR/>Not only that, but the singers appearing at Pesach hotels everywhere from Miami, L.A., Pheoinx, Palm Springs, upstate show not only were concert bans ineffective but bans on going to hotels or miami were also ineffective. <BR/><BR/>People are going to do what theyw ant to do. Maybe taking photos will stop some bochurim from going but the majority of people won't care.Chaimhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08236429066890015749noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-20257999.post-24369929011201272472008-04-13T16:26:00.000+03:002008-04-13T16:26:00.000+03:00there are rumors in the forums that MBD very well ...there are rumors in the forums that MBD very well might back out. also if they scare people out of going by threatening to hpotograph them and get them thrown out of yeshiva... who knows? they might draw a smalled crowd than expected and that could lead to future problems...Rafi G.https://www.blogger.com/profile/00699851287106903971noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-20257999.post-84758413948058117832008-04-13T16:18:00.000+03:002008-04-13T16:18:00.000+03:00ya, but unlike The Big Event this concert is still...ya, but unlike The Big Event this concert is still going to happen and both its main headliners are proceeding. Not to mention there have been half a dozen major concerts in the U.S. since the Lipa show. So from where I'm sitting, I think the initial concert ban was a massive failure.Chaimhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08236429066890015749noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-20257999.post-8074182184704429582008-04-13T15:55:00.000+03:002008-04-13T15:55:00.000+03:00I hope Blau does not abuse his children...from the...I hope Blau does not abuse his children...<BR/><BR/>from the article it seemed to me that Rav Wosner said it, but I might have misunderstood. It is funny for him to use that claim - once they start saying letters were forged, why should anybody else believe his letters were not forged?Rafi G.https://www.blogger.com/profile/00699851287106903971noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-20257999.post-19219807493229066862008-04-13T15:52:00.000+03:002008-04-13T15:52:00.000+03:00I dont understand, did he bring the letter to Rav ...I dont understand, did he bring the letter to Rav Wozner and Rav Wozner told him he didnt think Rav Ovadia saw it, or Blau told Rav Wozner that Rav Ovadia never saw it? im confused.<BR/><BR/>I imagine (and hope) that soon we will discover that Blau abuses his children, and then we wont have to hear from him anymore.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.com