tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-20257999.post2246566687150570600..comments2024-03-29T11:40:46.477+03:00Comments on Life in Israel: ignorant but simpleRafi G.http://www.blogger.com/profile/00699851287106903971noreply@blogger.comBlogger10125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-20257999.post-39753105686930958212008-05-15T11:55:00.000+03:002008-05-15T11:55:00.000+03:00Dear Anon (of 1:44),I was asked to post an "offici...Dear Anon (of 1:44),<BR/><BR/>I was asked to post an "official" response to your comments about Lema'an Achai.<BR/><BR/>Lema'an Achai serves the entire Ramat Bet Shemesh Alef community both geographically and demographically.<BR/><BR/>There are families assisted by Lema'an Achai on practically every street in the Rama from one end to the other.<BR/><BR/>Lema'an Achai is a community organization and assists the poor regardless of their level of observance. Being that a large percentage of the populace is Charedi the majority of Lema'an Achai's families are as well. But we don't judge a poor person by his/her "cover" (or lack there of). We help them based on their needs and personal situation.<BR/><BR/>You stated that<BR/><BR/> "I live on the chareidi part of RBS A and they dont have anything to do with our neighborhood. At least nothing on the public scene"<BR/><BR/>I don't know on which street you live but I can assure you that we do in fact have alot to do with your neighborhood.<BR/><BR/>The public "scene" might include our posters or other material in shuls or other buildings.<BR/><BR/>Unfortunately although our services and finacial help are welcomed in all areas our public presence is not.<BR/><BR/>Perhaps that is why you perceive that we don't have what to do with your neighborhood.<BR/><BR/>The fact that there are people who are happy with as well as those who are not is expected. As Lincoln said..."you can't please all of the people...."<BR/><BR/>We're not here to please. Lema'an Achai aims to help and serve those in need with professionals and volunteers of the highest caliber helping on the highest levels.<BR/><BR/>I invite you and anyone else reading this blog to come and see what Lema'an Achai is all about. Call our office at 999-1553 and let's set up a time to meet, discuss Lema'an Achai and answer questions you might have.<BR/><BR/>Better yet, volunteer! Join us in making Ramat Bet Shemesh an even better place for all of its residents.<BR/><BR/>Kol Tuv,<BR/>Rabbi Avrohom Leventhal<BR/>Executive DirectorAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-20257999.post-44349814143661595492008-05-15T08:12:00.000+03:002008-05-15T08:12:00.000+03:00IF you don't have the facts about LA then don't sp...IF you don't have the facts about LA then don't spew!<BR/>LA will help anyone that needs it in RBSa. <BR/>As their latest campaign ads say-they see only 2 types of Jews; those who can give help and those that need help.eema2fourhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06861738182839889246noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-20257999.post-20198077338074360462008-05-15T01:44:00.000+03:002008-05-15T01:44:00.000+03:00Although I live in RBS A, i do not know anything a...Although I live in RBS A, i do not know anything about LA. I live on the chareidi part of RBS A and they dont have anything to do with our neighborhood. Atleast nothing on the public scene. <BR/><BR/>I have heard positive things on the one hand, and i have heard that not everyone is happy with it. Guess thats the case with everything in the world :) There are plenty of people that can sing its praises - and many of them are frequent readers here, and many have in fact wrote about the great things LA does.<BR/>What i must say that i am 100% sure is that they (like all tzedakahs) are pretty lenient in terms of who they get money from.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-20257999.post-41108583798192959482008-05-15T00:53:00.000+03:002008-05-15T00:53:00.000+03:00It only took 6 comments.Is that a record?It only took 6 comments.<BR/>Is that a record?Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-20257999.post-33774814320911272372008-05-14T21:07:00.000+03:002008-05-14T21:07:00.000+03:00Anon,I have heard that Lema'an Achai, although run...Anon,<BR/><BR/>I have heard that Lema'an Achai, although run by a Charedi guy is more open to both whom they help and whom they let help. <BR/><BR/>Do you know if this is true?Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-20257999.post-24685006281002635942008-05-14T19:35:00.000+03:002008-05-14T19:35:00.000+03:00right religion - its not only "less frum looking" ...right religion - its not only "less frum looking" people - for lack of a better term. i look very much the chareidi part and when i asked if i could get involved and help, they asked me for help cpllecting money. maybe i know people in america. i said iwant to help in other ways, not collecting money, they said they dont need me.<BR/><BR/>while i hear what you are saying, i dont think the example you used is quite correct.<BR/><BR/><BR/>OTOH - there are plenty of people who are "shomer shabbos" that dont know much about shmiras shabbos. Many MO YI style people (thats where i grew up) dont know about the sefer SSK, nor do they know much about the 39 melachos other than you cant drive or watch tv unless a goy or clock turns it on. Its not such a wonder that a chareidi is surprised by someone who doesnt look like he cares too much about yahadus would care so much about shopping in alef or shefa. I agree that its a nice thing and its ignorance at its best. But not as far fetched as you are imaginingAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-20257999.post-77747199970321858312008-05-14T14:32:00.000+03:002008-05-14T14:32:00.000+03:00my general experience in dealing with chareidim in...my general experience in dealing with chareidim in london is that i'm assumed, as a kippa sruga wearer, to be somewhat ignorant. e.g one morning when learning from my mini-gemara on the train, i received looks of disbelief from a fellow who turned out to be a gateshead kollel yungerman. sometimes i prefer to pleasantly surprise people, than if it was the other way around.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-20257999.post-84378675906099180942008-05-14T14:07:00.000+03:002008-05-14T14:07:00.000+03:00Rafi-I agree with your sentiments totally.After ma...Rafi-<BR/><BR/>I agree with your sentiments totally.<BR/>After making aliyah I approached a certain local tzedaka organization here in town to volunteer. I was a little apprehensive as I am more "dati leumi" looking than most of the people invloved.<BR/><BR/>I was asked if I could be a monthly collector for my shul or building. That wasn't the type of volunteering I had in mind.Although I was a little uncomfortable with the idea I agreed at first.<BR/>Each and every time that I met/spoke with the people in the organization I felt that I was being treated like a child. As if I didn't understand their "way of doing things", their lifestyle.<BR/><BR/>I stopped after a short while as I felt that I was only being used and not really part of the group.<BR/><BR/>In my relativley short time in Israel I get this feeling from many in the Charedi world.<BR/><BR/>From your post at least I know that I'm not alone.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-20257999.post-48558396817458692802008-05-14T12:16:00.000+03:002008-05-14T12:16:00.000+03:00"enjoy"? no but it provides great material!"enjoy"? no but it provides great material!Rafi G.https://www.blogger.com/profile/00699851287106903971noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-20257999.post-19019883152678625942008-05-14T12:08:00.000+03:002008-05-14T12:08:00.000+03:00honeslty, does this surpise you? There is a very ...honeslty, does this surpise you? There is a very large superiority complex that hareidi people exhibit. And i see it more and more with those who close themselves off to society. Hareidim i meet who do not work with chilonim, or who have no chiloni relative, etc, are insufferably narrow minded and egotistical about religion.<BR/>You really enjoy reading the "Chadash"?Anonymousnoreply@blogger.com