tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-20257999.post2271704975130438159..comments2024-03-29T06:05:20.562+03:00Comments on Life in Israel: Yehiyeh TovRafi G.http://www.blogger.com/profile/00699851287106903971noreply@blogger.comBlogger24125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-20257999.post-473631988564960112008-10-03T13:05:00.000+03:002008-10-03T13:05:00.000+03:00Rafi I find the discourse regarding the difference...Rafi I find the discourse regarding the differences between Tov and Chen enlightening however inaccurate. <BR/>Tov came to life when I introduced Chanoch Verdiger of Pagi to Elie Friedman in an attempt to strengthen the "working" charedi and charedi leumi camps. <BR/>For reasons not relevant to BeiT Shemeshh and more directly relating to an inner war within Degel hatorah camps they decided to go without chen as we were percieved as Mizruchnick and not pure Charedi. <BR/>In Chen we did away with the destructive barriers that divide our community and represented all equally. <BR/>It is equally dishonest of Tov to claim that the Anglos were not represented before as I personally spent many hours and evenings working with Mendy Newman to resolve issues that he and fellow residents in Sun Gardens were experiencing. <BR/>The parallels in the Chen platform and Tov are a result of the Tov ancestry ie Chen.avicoolhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08047859964793533352noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-20257999.post-82071775317049409502008-09-23T10:32:00.000+03:002008-09-23T10:32:00.000+03:00"Stone"-I think the letter clearly states Bet Shem..."Stone"-<BR/>I think the letter clearly states Bet Shemesh and Ramat Bet Shemesh. We of course want to represent anyone who feels they fit our target audience, regardless of geographic location . :)Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-20257999.post-38707766269344815492008-09-23T10:23:00.000+03:002008-09-23T10:23:00.000+03:00Why was there only a mention of getting representa...Why was there only a mention of getting representatives in the Ramah? Don't they intend on representing ALL of Bet Shemesh? I live in Givat Saviyon and I don't think I'd vote for a party that thinks Bet Shemesh consists only of Ramat Bet Shemesh Aleph.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-20257999.post-58903350135824452932008-09-22T10:11:00.000+03:002008-09-22T10:11:00.000+03:00The truth is when i saw those Tov signs around tow...The truth is when i saw those Tov signs around town I thought Birkat Rachel/Zol Po/Alef/Yesh had changed it's name again to "Tov.<BR/><BR/>If I'm not mistaken "Yihiye Tov" was the campaign slogan for the Ichud Haleumi in one of the previous general elections.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-20257999.post-68540816579933900412008-09-22T06:40:00.000+03:002008-09-22T06:40:00.000+03:00Akiva - I should add to my comment, which I though...Akiva - I should add to my comment, which I thought was clear but then I thought maybe it is not necessarily understood, that TOV only just started their public campaign. While so far I like what I hear, it is not yet enough for an endorsement. <BR/><BR/>Over the next few days and weeks I am sure TOV will let us all know what their plans are, what they will try to accomplish (and how), and why we should vote for them rather then the party we would otherwise have voted for until now. <BR/><BR/>They very well might get my endorsement (if it is worth anything is a different issue), but first we have to hear the issues, and I think the most important indicator is peoples questions and their answers.Rafi G.https://www.blogger.com/profile/00699851287106903971noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-20257999.post-48026233835100805712008-09-21T23:53:00.000+03:002008-09-21T23:53:00.000+03:00Rafi: you are missing a golden opportunity: you wr...Rafi: you are missing a golden opportunity: you write clearly and concisely; you layout the issues without prejudice and malice; you have a grasp on the halachot and the meaning of Torah; it is time you stand up to at the plate and make your observations and analyses available to a wider audience as writer. Publish!!!!Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-20257999.post-26894404646444362222008-09-21T23:25:00.000+03:002008-09-21T23:25:00.000+03:00Akiva - LII is not endorsing any party, at this po...Akiva - LII is not endorsing any party, at this point at least. It is way too early in the election season for that. <BR/><BR/>That being said, a number of people involved in TOV are friends of mine and I am happy to help them, especially because I like what I so far hear and see from them.Rafi G.https://www.blogger.com/profile/00699851287106903971noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-20257999.post-87770573989410580312008-09-21T23:23:00.000+03:002008-09-21T23:23:00.000+03:00thanks Rafi - our tz lists Bet Shemesh so we are g...thanks Rafi - our tz lists Bet Shemesh so we are good to go (came last summer from Brooklyn)Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-20257999.post-78364421724296262182008-09-21T23:17:00.000+03:002008-09-21T23:17:00.000+03:00Does Life In Israel officially endorse Tov?A note ...Does Life In Israel officially endorse Tov?<BR/><BR/>A note for the TOV representative: while your play on words gets great attention among the natives, for us transplants we may just scratch our heads and wonder "what is that?" Don't be afraid to add some English subtitles when posting signs in Ramat Alef.Akivahttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13042484533217272945noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-20257999.post-49180175052637150132008-09-21T23:09:00.000+03:002008-09-21T23:09:00.000+03:00anon - you do not need to register, but you need t...anon - you do not need to register, but you need to make sure your teudat zehut is registered in Bet Shemesh. If your listed address is an apartment previously lived in in another city, such as Jerusalem, you cannot vote in bet Shemesh until the address in the tz is changed.Rafi G.https://www.blogger.com/profile/00699851287106903971noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-20257999.post-69051923969388167742008-09-21T22:54:00.000+03:002008-09-21T22:54:00.000+03:00do you need to register to vote? since we are in ...do you need to register to vote? since we are in RBS only one year, we are a bit lost regarding the voting procedures...<BR/><BR/>please advise!<BR/>(we would like to vote for Lerner. that should be an incentive for you to advise us here LOL)Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-20257999.post-49360811691107543162008-09-21T16:41:00.000+03:002008-09-21T16:41:00.000+03:00this weeks chadash claims it to be undecided as of...this weeks chadash claims it to be undecided as of yet. SGreenberg was given the top spot. and no spot was given to Montag, but they are deciding how to place him. His status right now, according to chadash, has been left open. Even though he is my neighbor (not that that ever did anything for me), I have no more info at this point in time.Rafi G.https://www.blogger.com/profile/00699851287106903971noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-20257999.post-40320306341520420672008-09-21T16:38:00.001+03:002008-09-21T16:38:00.001+03:00on a similar topic: what happend to moshe montag? ...on a similar topic: what happend to moshe montag? was he kicked off his party?Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-20257999.post-88308715120252152482008-09-21T16:38:00.000+03:002008-09-21T16:38:00.000+03:00Chaim-To answer your questions.In general (not all...Chaim-<BR/>To answer your questions.<BR/>In general (not all) there is a feeling that there are somewhat different priorities and approaches to community issues and school issues the "working" community faces than the "learning" community.<BR/><BR/>As to your second point, as I stated above we are working to bring in other people and will update everyone when we have more news on that front.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-20257999.post-56910141951599822102008-09-21T16:34:00.000+03:002008-09-21T16:34:00.000+03:00every time i drive past the Tov signs i hum to mys...every time i drive past the Tov signs i hum to myself the very famous israeli song by the secular left wing singer. David Broza....yiheye tov.... i wonder if he is part of the tov team!!!!Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-20257999.post-18845444252504925922008-09-21T16:29:00.000+03:002008-09-21T16:29:00.000+03:00so have they fallen out or is it a tactic to get m...so have they fallen out or is it a tactic to get more votes?Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-20257999.post-86182595711286046012008-09-21T16:21:00.000+03:002008-09-21T16:21:00.000+03:00mordin - if I remember correctly, Eli Friedman him...mordin - if I remember correctly, Eli Friedman himself very publicly supported CHEN n the last electionsRafi G.https://www.blogger.com/profile/00699851287106903971noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-20257999.post-25227323478064823622008-09-21T16:19:00.000+03:002008-09-21T16:19:00.000+03:00Does the "Yeshiva working community" send there ch...Does the "Yeshiva working community" send there children to other schools than "Yeshiva learning community"?<BR/><BR/>When you talk about "cleanliness of the city" it makes you sound a bit like Chen. I know last time quite a few of the "Yeshiva working community" voted for them. Would you consider running together?Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-20257999.post-47667787515860048582008-09-21T16:05:00.000+03:002008-09-21T16:05:00.000+03:00Currently the "reshima" consists of Eli Friedman a...Currently the "reshima" consists of Eli Friedman and Mendy Newman.<BR/>We are working to bring in other people and will update everyone when we have more news on that front.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-20257999.post-51194750527167966302008-09-21T16:03:00.000+03:002008-09-21T16:03:00.000+03:00I think I heard that Rav Alon has joined up with T...I think I heard that Rav Alon has joined up with TOV and has the second spot secured for him. Mendy Newman has the third spot according to my info.<BR/><BR/>We can wait for confirmation or clarification of that from a TOV rep, if one comes in..Rafi G.https://www.blogger.com/profile/00699851287106903971noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-20257999.post-14147704752904482572008-09-21T16:02:00.000+03:002008-09-21T16:02:00.000+03:00chaimthemeshugana-We stand for being a voice for t...chaimthemeshugana-<BR/>We stand for being a voice for the Anglo/Israeli - "Yeshiva working community" (label it as you wish) on the city council. <BR/>This includes areas such as education, community development, cleanliness of the city, etc. The important thing is to have a voice and a forum.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-20257999.post-65740933168400417502008-09-21T16:01:00.000+03:002008-09-21T16:01:00.000+03:00What is the connection between Rav Yitzchak Alon w...What is the connection between Rav Yitzchak Alon who ran with Zvi Wolicki from chen last time and Tov?Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-20257999.post-79200470921870690482008-09-21T15:51:00.000+03:002008-09-21T15:51:00.000+03:00I have no problem with you asking all your questio...I have no problem with you asking all your questions about TOV here. I will try to get someone from TOV who will check in and try to answer the questions. <BR/><BR/>They have only just begun the campaign. I imagine over the next two months until the elections they will make clear what they are trying to accomplish and what their positions and issues areRafi G.https://www.blogger.com/profile/00699851287106903971noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-20257999.post-21481892644434323532008-09-21T15:47:00.000+03:002008-09-21T15:47:00.000+03:00I still have no clue as to what they really stand ...I still have no clue as to what they really stand for?<BR/><BR/>"baalabatim"?<BR/><BR/>what are the issues they are addressing?Anonymousnoreply@blogger.com