tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-20257999.post2337201487056302700..comments2024-03-29T11:40:46.477+03:00Comments on Life in Israel: an adulteress in our midst!!!Rafi G.http://www.blogger.com/profile/00699851287106903971noreply@blogger.comBlogger24125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-20257999.post-66399714138072804852007-09-09T15:13:00.000+03:002007-09-09T15:13:00.000+03:00Since they're threatening to publicize anyone who ...Since they're threatening to publicize anyone who visits, and they've already posted her address, how about if we (after getting her permission of course) get a few thousand people to pay a visit of support, and post our photos somewhere? I'm posting under my real name, am willing to do this. After Rosh Hashana if possible.<BR/><BR/>How about a phone tree of people who will turn up the moment there is trouble? I live in Jerusalem, probably by the time I got to RBS it would be over, but there are enough sane people in BS and RBS to do this.<BR/><BR/>And if there's trouble, CALL THE POLICE for the love of G-d!Warren Bursteinhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09851196721637207769noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-20257999.post-41017932881362159472007-09-09T11:48:00.000+03:002007-09-09T11:48:00.000+03:00dan - when Dan Brown wrote the book the DaVinci Co...dan - <BR/>when Dan Brown wrote the book the DaVinci Code, did the catholic church come out with an official statement condemming the book? (Incidentally, don't confuse the million of comments and critisizms vs an official statement from the pope).<BR/>When Roger Moore makes a movie called Farenheit 911, does the White House come out with an officail statement declaiming the movie?<BR/><BR/>You have to understand the way things work. And I will try to present two views:<BR/>1 - in the modern world, according to the examples given above, releasing official statements arguing, puts some basis to the arugument. Voicing an official opinion against something, shows a concern that it may be truth. Ignorning it, lets it go away faster.<BR/>2 - when a rav today makes an outstanding comment, a respected rav and posek, and that comment is flagged, and posted, and written on and basically blown up, would you prefer that the comment continue to be discussed and examined, or put away and done with.<BR/><BR/>We can not just fight about every word that the media in israel wishes to publicize. It will only give justice to the media to continue making news. If you dont understand what he meant, why dont you just call him and ask him? or would you prefer to keep reasing the media who are only trying to make a shekel?Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-20257999.post-12245699194531747822007-09-07T17:34:00.000+03:002007-09-07T17:34:00.000+03:00What?What?Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-20257999.post-7176949410399690622007-09-07T16:43:00.000+03:002007-09-07T16:43:00.000+03:00if its not signed, it means the rabonim REFUSED to...if its not signed, it means the rabonim REFUSED to.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-20257999.post-42778429336185474412007-09-07T11:24:00.000+03:002007-09-07T11:24:00.000+03:00Whatsinaname,I give kudos on the gemachim and ches...Whatsinaname,<BR/><BR/>I give kudos on the gemachim and chesed programs, the shuls and kollels however, are less than relevant.<BR/><BR/>That being said, I wonder how many rabbis, how many leaders have come out against ovadia yosef's comments...and other such issues like the scarlett letter issue here or the riots in meah shearim when a religious criminal is arrested by the secular police.<BR/>So if your point is that the orthodox system manages despite itself to occasionly do some good, than I agree.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-20257999.post-60433142495773706522007-09-06T13:16:00.000+03:002007-09-06T13:16:00.000+03:00whats - If I am not mistaken you do not make a bra...whats - If I am not mistaken you do not make a bracha in that case.Rafi G.https://www.blogger.com/profile/00699851287106903971noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-20257999.post-65790985727649365922007-09-06T12:56:00.000+03:002007-09-06T12:56:00.000+03:00A thought just occured to me while digesting dan's...A thought just occured to me while digesting dan's response.<BR/><BR/>Its so easy to point fingers when people do or say crazy things. But how often we miss the good deeds done for us and the lessons to be learned from many wonderful people.<BR/>There is so much good in RBS, just as an example i started Daf Yomi on Monday, and i noted how many daf yomis are in the neighborhood at all times. (Two of which i've tried, and both were very welcoming and friendly). So many different minyanim. So many gamachim. wonderful chessed organizations in the neighborhood that will (unfortunately) be there to lend support to this woman (though i hope it doesn't come to that).<BR/><BR/>I see your quote from Rav Yosef, and the recent public humiliation, and raise you over twenty gamachim, fifteen shuls and many kollelim learning all day....<BR/><BR/>just some thoughts thrown together...Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-20257999.post-44077383272539614282007-09-06T12:50:00.000+03:002007-09-06T12:50:00.000+03:00dan g - "Or to quote my little girl, "daddy, what ...dan g - "Or to quote my little girl, "daddy, what bracha do you make on shrimp?" <BR/><BR/>I always wondered, do we make a bracha on non-kosher food?<BR/>if someone is doing is b'meizid, can they make a bracha?<BR/>If someone is stuck somewhere and needs to triaf, does he make a bracha?Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-20257999.post-9978070103851838212007-09-06T07:55:00.000+03:002007-09-06T07:55:00.000+03:00This is terrible. Just shameful behavior.This is terrible. Just shameful behavior.Jack Steinerhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16625864271071630940noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-20257999.post-42120493701242168522007-09-06T06:07:00.001+03:002007-09-06T06:07:00.001+03:00I'm gonna post about this now.I'm gonna post about this now.Jacob Da Jewhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/03271564852032891769noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-20257999.post-43853582440024599932007-09-06T06:07:00.000+03:002007-09-06T06:07:00.000+03:00"I said to my wife last night that we are probably..."I said to my wife last night that we are probably next on their list. After all, when I go out to throw out the garbage, I often am wearing my t-shirt and shorts and do not bother changing..."<BR/><BR/>Dude, you just let me know if they start messing with ya...Send some of da boyz over, borrow some guns from Jameel..Fix em real good.<BR/><BR/>Not kidding. These people only understand force, they need a good potch.Jacob Da Jewhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/03271564852032891769noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-20257999.post-38585960954333479412007-09-06T06:05:00.000+03:002007-09-06T06:05:00.000+03:00This is terribly sad...not the neighbors I hope to...This is terribly sad...not the neighbors I hope to have once my wife and I make aliyah! Maybe they should live in Tel Aviv where noone would care how she dresses...?Yehudihttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07370713357407387725noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-20257999.post-65213412969305235742007-09-05T18:12:00.000+03:002007-09-05T18:12:00.000+03:00wow.This is amazing. I thought the scarlet letter ...wow.<BR/><BR/>This is amazing. I thought the scarlet letter was a great book and now I get to see it in real life.<BR/><BR/>This is fantastic. <BR/><BR/>As an aside, in honor of Ovadia yosef's comments and this situation a friend and I are hosting a dinner party for jews who are amazed by the orthodox version of Judaism. I don't want to be rude so I won't bother telling you the menu. But we wanted to be very clear that every action we preform and every item we eat will be specifically in honorium of Ovadia's behavior and this situation. <BR/>Or to quote my little girl, "daddy, what bracha do you make on shrimp?"Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-20257999.post-91903973513621206652007-09-05T16:09:00.000+03:002007-09-05T16:09:00.000+03:00Eli - why the heck would she answer the phone nowa...Eli - why the heck would she answer the phone nowadays considering the notices publicizing her phone number? I think in a similar situation, I would have immediately cancelled the number and gotten a new, unlisted number... Regardless, kol hakavod to you...Rafi G.https://www.blogger.com/profile/00699851287106903971noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-20257999.post-41857021704126612382007-09-05T16:04:00.000+03:002007-09-05T16:04:00.000+03:00Since her telephone number was publicized on the p...Since her telephone number was publicized on the pashkevil, I called the woman last night as a sign of solidarity with her.<BR/><BR/>I offered her my help in whatever way would be needed.<BR/><BR/>The cowards who anonomously signed the pashkevil as the va'ad lekdushatt hamachane should crawl back into their hole - or in to the back of the 418. <BR/><BR/>Just say NO to the Taliban.<BR/><BR/>If anyone has any ideas how to help this woman - please call me:<BR/>Eli Bialik Hayarkon 34/1 tel.054-5544185 or email me: elimazi(at)yahoo.com.<BR/><BR/>Tizku LemitzvotAnonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/12396241458721329722noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-20257999.post-4338148819442910182007-09-05T16:00:00.000+03:002007-09-05T16:00:00.000+03:00moi - well, that is how I understood "maaseh zimri...moi - well, that is how I understood "maaseh zimri".. temptress is an alternative, I guess. Do you have a recommendation for a better word to translate "maase zimri"?Rafi G.https://www.blogger.com/profile/00699851287106903971noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-20257999.post-51820265991150891902007-09-05T15:57:00.000+03:002007-09-05T15:57:00.000+03:00I suggest changing the title, if there is no menti...I suggest changing the title, if there is no mention of adultery.mother in israelhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13715046177293916034noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-20257999.post-65567268345335754512007-09-05T15:35:00.000+03:002007-09-05T15:35:00.000+03:00i AM WONDERING WHAT THE ACTUAL HETER FOR BEING MEF...i AM WONDERING WHAT THE ACTUAL HETER FOR BEING MEFARSAM THE NAME OF THE ACCUSED IS. TZNIUS IS SUBJECTIVE ANYWAY, AND DOES THE DI'ORAYSA OF HOCHACHA ALLOW FOR BOOSHA B'RABIM W/O BEIS DIN?<BR/><BR/>sorry for the caps - I caught it after I was typing......Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-20257999.post-47195318310506750982007-09-05T14:25:00.000+03:002007-09-05T14:25:00.000+03:00Well, you could always move to Jameel's yishuv.Ser...Well, you could always move to Jameel's yishuv.<BR/><BR/>Seriously, another sad development in the world of RBS.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-20257999.post-59411255642958468202007-09-05T12:55:00.000+03:002007-09-05T12:55:00.000+03:00thanks yoni - temptress was the better word I was ...thanks yoni - temptress was the better word I was looking for but could not think of. it might just be the imagery of the word, but they wrote her actions are the actions of zimri (though technically her actions would be those of kozbi, not zimri)Rafi G.https://www.blogger.com/profile/00699851287106903971noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-20257999.post-53429713863427467492007-09-05T12:51:00.000+03:002007-09-05T12:51:00.000+03:00Unless I missed something, it doesn't say that she...Unless I missed something, it doesn't say that she's an adulterer. It uses the imagery of a temptress (Zimri) to describe her mode of dress.<BR/><BR/>But, just in case, let's be "dan l'caf zechus". Since her husband is in Kollel, they probably need another income. If learning Torah is the world's second oldest profession....<BR/>:-)Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-20257999.post-66141586995030319812007-09-05T12:14:00.000+03:002007-09-05T12:14:00.000+03:00Somebody told me the reason they did this now is b...Somebody told me the reason they did this now is because of Elul and it is a time to strengthen ourselves...<BR/><BR/>I guess they choose to "strengthen" others and look for other peoples problems rather than their own...<BR/><BR/>Remember Yehuda and Tamar? he was going to burn her for adultery and when she hinted to him that she knew it was he who she had slept with, he calmed down and retracted his protest.<BR/><BR/>Maybe this one needs to name which of them she slept with.. (if she really did and it is not just an exaggeration based on her dress)Rafi G.https://www.blogger.com/profile/00699851287106903971noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-20257999.post-28632857632462045032007-09-05T12:01:00.000+03:002007-09-05T12:01:00.000+03:00How sad these people are possibly destroying a mar...How sad these people are possibly destroying a marriage and most definitely doing harm to the children. What they are doing is much much worse than what she might have done. <BR/><BR/>And how do they know she is having an affair... unless she is having it with one of them and now they feel guilty or unless she wouldn't and they were humiliated because of it and trying to do the same to her. <BR/><BR/>Ugh! It makes me heartsick to think of Jewish people doing this to one another. It's Elul!!!!!come runninghttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00264472908368786844noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-20257999.post-84928012218006318132007-09-05T11:28:00.000+03:002007-09-05T11:28:00.000+03:00sorry - dont know what happened, but the fonts got...sorry - dont know what happened, but the fonts got all messed up and I cannot seem to fix it....Rafi G.https://www.blogger.com/profile/00699851287106903971noreply@blogger.com