tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-20257999.post2755679516146008200..comments2024-03-29T06:05:20.562+03:00Comments on Life in Israel: new criteria for "Who is a Jew": chulentRafi G.http://www.blogger.com/profile/00699851287106903971noreply@blogger.comBlogger18125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-20257999.post-17676852373261753112007-07-04T03:53:00.000+03:002007-07-04T03:53:00.000+03:00FEH! I rarely eat cholent.. summer or winter.. it ...FEH! I rarely eat cholent.. summer or winter.. it gives me gas and diahria and arghh!Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-20257999.post-21532353431078245582007-07-03T22:46:00.000+03:002007-07-03T22:46:00.000+03:00nishma - you make a good point. But on the other h...nishma - you make a good point. But on the other hand, such people who clearly do not have complete knowledge definitely need to be learning so these mistakes will not be repeated!!! (though I understand your point to mean, they should not be the ones we support lin learning full time - they should be working and learning in their free time).<BR/><BR/>As an aside, I just wanted to mention - my father sometimes says that we ashkenazi Jews missed the boat a long time ago. Whenever this conversation of conversions and yichus and the like comes up, he says we missed the boat. he says how do we have Jews nowadays with blond hair and blue eyes? Those are not jewish charachteristics (yes, I am familiar with the gemara that says King David was a red-head). We are so intermarried and our grandmothers were raped by cossaks and other pogroms, that we are mixed blood anyway and many of us are probably not so Jewish anymore halachically...Rafi G.https://www.blogger.com/profile/00699851287106903971noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-20257999.post-69657746736553342622007-07-03T21:48:00.000+03:002007-07-03T21:48:00.000+03:00A halacha stated in a vacuum is lost. The Karaites...A halacha stated in a vacuum is lost. The Karaites who would not eat hot food on Shabbat as they would not have fire burning in their homes on Shabbat is the obvious target of this halacha. The halacha is simply raising a warning that one who does not eat hot foods on Shabbat could possibly be a Karaite and caution should guide how you relate to him/her. This is another case of the meaning of a halacha being lost because one focusses on the narrow reading of the words without a recognition of the full context of a halacha and thus its real purpose. The sad result is not only do we attack those who simply do not like cholent but we also ignore signs of other theological concerns because it is not stated in the Shulchan Aruch. <BR/><BR/>As for shakling, the Rambam states that one should stand still as before a king and my understanding is that Briskers also daven in this manner of standing still. <BR/><BR/>The real problem as such is that this avreich would seem to have been somewhat of an am haaretz and that is in itself frightening in that we are creating individuals who represent Torah scholarship who do not have the breadth to truly meet this standard. <BR/><BR/>Of course, we do not know what Rav Elyashav told him but there seems to be this attitude that in order to keep people learning we have to encourage them even as they make mistakes.Nishmahttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04237299801109329429noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-20257999.post-41349358366121061342007-07-02T16:42:00.000+03:002007-07-02T16:42:00.000+03:00I read FailedMessiahs post on the matter.Flabberga...I read FailedMessiahs post on the matter.<BR/><BR/>Flabbergasting.Jacob Da Jewhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/03271564852032891769noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-20257999.post-85655149020978581502007-07-02T15:04:00.000+03:002007-07-02T15:04:00.000+03:00is galla the same as p'tcha? I won't touch it...is galla the same as p'tcha? I won't touch it...Rafi G.https://www.blogger.com/profile/00699851287106903971noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-20257999.post-35535329259169921512007-07-02T14:55:00.000+03:002007-07-02T14:55:00.000+03:00I hate hate hate hate galla. Ick. Feh!I hate hate hate hate galla. Ick. Feh!Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-20257999.post-36342200173373215522007-07-02T14:33:00.000+03:002007-07-02T14:33:00.000+03:00My father learned in Munkatch in Europe and loves ...My father learned in Munkatch in Europe and loves to tell the story that when he ate his first Shabbat meal at his uncle they served hot galla. To make it brief, when my father wouldnt eat it my great uncle ZT"L said (translating the yiddish) you must not have a Jewish organ in your body!Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-20257999.post-5223223721573115932007-07-02T13:17:00.000+03:002007-07-02T13:17:00.000+03:00Yes, I was referring to what Josh M. wrote.Yes, I was referring to what Josh M. wrote.blukehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/03774763780910614203noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-20257999.post-9900127875714433122007-07-02T10:18:00.000+03:002007-07-02T10:18:00.000+03:00My father used to bring leftover chulent to a "goy...My father used to bring leftover chulent to a "goy" at work, and he loved it. Maybe he was really Jewish....Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-20257999.post-47190712365137655332007-07-02T02:51:00.000+03:002007-07-02T02:51:00.000+03:00Rafi if you don't eat tcholent during summer days ...Rafi if you don't eat tcholent during summer days this means you and your family have to go through conversion to raise the shailays. lol.<BR/><BR/>And Am Kshe Oref is a bad bad kohen and a big apikoyres cause he does not like Ashkenazi food. ;)<BR/><BR/>Me? I am a big apikoyres, am haaretz too, since I don't eat cholent. LOL. Not to mention I eat rice on Pesah. Oyyy!<BR/><BR/>Here is what I think. People who were around this guy probably was jealous of his intellectual and intelligence level so the only way they can bring him down is attacking his "Jewishness". They did to a guy in Europe and he sued the people who did this to him including the rabbis.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-20257999.post-23066187224738541742007-07-02T02:32:00.000+03:002007-07-02T02:32:00.000+03:00Hey! I guess that means my wife isn't Jewish since...Hey! I guess that means my wife isn't Jewish since she doesn't like Cholent either! Not does my son!! And me a Kohen! Of course, I might not be Jewish either since I don't like a variety of "Jewish" foods, including herring (of any kind), Gefilte Fish, Kasha & Varnishkes, and chicken Schmaltz...<BR/><BR/>I'd sure like to hear what the real story is hear, since, as you said, the mag must have gotten it COMPLETELY wrong!<BR/><BR/>Thanks for the heads up on this article, Rafi...Am Kshe Oref - A Stiff-Necked Peoplehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06244053147685734300noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-20257999.post-56812821229809269422007-07-02T02:18:00.000+03:002007-07-02T02:18:00.000+03:00B"H Um,...would you like to live in my small house...B"H Um,...would you like to live in my small house with the plata on all Shabbath in the summer? I sincerely doubt it. I'm sure I would be considered "safeq" (HW"H) by some because when the plata is on during the summer, the Shabbath clock turns it off after lunch. Gee-waaaaald!<BR/><BR/>Shuckling? Um, has this guy ever been in a Yemenite beth knesseth? <BR/><BR/>I'm sure I'll definitely be considered an epikourus for bringing this up, but...<BR/><BR/>1) The GR"A said that when there is a mahloqeth between the Zohar and Gemara, one goes by the Gemara.<BR/><BR/>2) Oh, yeah, and we're not even talking about halacha here, just minhagim (now I'm really gonna get it!)<BR/><BR/>3) This guy, if Jewish, sounds like a good example of a tinoq shenishba, one who would not necessarily be expected to know Shabbath nor prayer, let alone chollent and shucking.<BR/><BR/>4) I sincerely believe that R'Eliyashiv based his decision on the additional investigation, not just on chollent and shuckling.<BR/><BR/>5) It is said that when R' Aqiva prayed, he would end up in a completely different location then when he started. He was probably doing a lot more than shuckling, possibly kneeling and prostrating himself. Don't tell anyone though, you'll be called a heretic.Esser Agarothhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/12853681733864707489noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-20257999.post-26216267179540594712007-07-01T23:24:00.000+03:002007-07-01T23:24:00.000+03:00I have long said that not eating cholent on shabba...I have long said that not eating cholent on shabbas IS apikorsas....I was joking, howeverDAGhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09475799835170867139noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-20257999.post-90693888673151995002007-07-01T23:08:00.000+03:002007-07-01T23:08:00.000+03:00chulent smells bad? maybe you need a new recipe.. ...chulent smells bad? maybe you need a new recipe.. :-)Rafi G.https://www.blogger.com/profile/00699851287106903971noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-20257999.post-10208493663905537292007-07-01T23:03:00.000+03:002007-07-01T23:03:00.000+03:00Someone in Makor Rishon two Fridays ago lamented t...Someone in Makor Rishon two Fridays ago lamented the fact that we still have to have chicken soup and cholent even though we live in Israel and the weather is so bad, and that if we were to cook cholent during the week we would open the windows because it smells so bad after cooking for so long. . .mother in israelhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13715046177293916034noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-20257999.post-60850503796381472262007-07-01T22:40:00.000+03:002007-07-01T22:40:00.000+03:00that must be then what bluke was referring to...that must be then what bluke was referring to...Rafi G.https://www.blogger.com/profile/00699851287106903971noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-20257999.post-25209017019308501822007-07-01T21:39:00.000+03:002007-07-01T21:39:00.000+03:00when asked why he davened shemone esrai ramrod sti...<I>when asked why he davened shemone esrai ramrod still and straight, the reply was, When I was in the Polish/Russian army, we stood ata ateention perfectly still, so I learned from there the way to stand before god.</I><BR/><BR/>I believe it's R' Moshe Feinstein, if one changes the part about being in the army to standing before a government official.Josh M.https://www.blogger.com/profile/14414532577328945154noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-20257999.post-12512304938464713072007-07-01T21:04:00.000+03:002007-07-01T21:04:00.000+03:00i don't remember which gadol the following story i...i don't remember which gadol the following story is attributed to, but it's as follows....<BR/><BR/>when asked why he davened shemone esrai ramrod still and straight, the reply was, When I was in the Polish/Russian army, we stood ata ateention perfectly still, so I learned from there the way to stand before god.<BR/><BR/>maybe he really wasn't jewish either...hmmm.....Anonymousnoreply@blogger.com