tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-20257999.post3297670548711553607..comments2024-03-29T11:40:46.477+03:00Comments on Life in Israel: Interesting Psak: mixed beaches for HaredimRafi G.http://www.blogger.com/profile/00699851287106903971noreply@blogger.comBlogger4125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-20257999.post-30189410433129170702018-07-19T21:24:01.387+03:002018-07-19T21:24:01.387+03:00I had no idea that there were frum family beaches ...I had no idea that there were frum family beaches in Israel, and wondered why they didn't exist (I have seen this type of arrangement informally at religious cottage areas in Canada where the only access to the beach was via a group of summer cottages which were all owned by religious families)<br /><br />Do you have details about these beaches, where they are located and if they have specific family hours, sounds like a great option for a family outing.Michael Sedleyhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/02684514303911193073noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-20257999.post-68513030340891818342018-07-19T18:01:45.902+03:002018-07-19T18:01:45.902+03:00"especially in todays age of modest swimwear...."especially in todays age of modest swimwear."<br /><br />That I don't think is accurate. Most swimwear you would see at a mixed beach is far from modest. Going to an ordinary mixed beach is indeed a serious aveirah. But, as you say, the issue is how people are dressed, not the swimming itself.Bored Lawyernoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-20257999.post-32934104524660962362018-07-19T16:25:10.458+03:002018-07-19T16:25:10.458+03:00I always wondered what is so bad about mixed swimm...I always wondered what is so bad about mixed swimming, especially in todays age of modest swimwear. can I sit by a pool or on a beach and not go swimming, and all is good? obviously not if womenin the area are in bikinis, but that isnt mixed swimming. it seems they treat it as an issue on its own, even if modesty issues are dealt with. The prevailing attitude has definitely been that even with modest swimwear it is prohibited.Rafi G.https://www.blogger.com/profile/00699851287106903971noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-20257999.post-7201535762709258562018-07-19T15:43:59.246+03:002018-07-19T15:43:59.246+03:00The problem of "mixed swimming" is a mis...The problem of "mixed swimming" is a misnomer. The problem is really going somewhere where women are dressed improperly, especially if there is no compelling reason to do so. <br />As for the gemara cited about passing by the area of the river where the women were busy doing the laundry, the problem there is that the women lifted their skirts so they would not get we while doing the laundry. Again, an issue of improper dress.<br />Assuming that the women are dressed properly, what is the problem? How is this different thank going to a large store or supermarket where there are many women? (And yes, there are places where there are separate shopping hours for men and women, but that is a chumra.)<br />Bored Lawyernoreply@blogger.com