tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-20257999.post3398429766444599424..comments2024-03-28T21:53:53.990+02:00Comments on Life in Israel: Proposed Law: Jewish prayer on Har HabayitRafi G.http://www.blogger.com/profile/00699851287106903971noreply@blogger.comBlogger7125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-20257999.post-16327577126360445452015-12-24T09:57:57.897+02:002015-12-24T09:57:57.897+02:00Halachically, it is already assur to daven in any ...Halachically, it is already assur to daven in any kever - see the Rambam in Hilchot Tefila.<br /><br />Just saying.<br /><br />And I don't believe that a goy doing Avoda Zara anywhere automatically makes that place a Beit Avoda Zara, but check that in the Rambam, too.Shlomo Gorennoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-20257999.post-21052292481370295702015-12-24T08:05:23.355+02:002015-12-24T08:05:23.355+02:00Kever David and the Cenotaph are both government o...Kever David and the Cenotaph are both government owned - and in fact, the Catholic Church has been trying to get permanent prayer access to the Cenotaph for years. One of the reasons for denying them this is that it would give parts of the building - which is in the same physical structure as Kever David - the Halachic status of a Beis Avoda Zara, which would make it Assur to Daven there. Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-20257999.post-53961420371117413372015-12-24T02:17:07.686+02:002015-12-24T02:17:07.686+02:00private property (like the various churches) would...private property (like the various churches) would probably be exempt, for property rights reasons. the question is, who owns these various locations?MiMedinat HaYamhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/12873881615861319718noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-20257999.post-20966166470297738022015-12-23T19:51:57.389+02:002015-12-23T19:51:57.389+02:00There's actually a significant Halachic to iss...There's actually a significant Halachic to issue with this proposal. If it passes, Christians will be allowed to pray wherever they want, including Shuls and the Cenotaph - the room above Kever David. As Christianity is considered Avoda Zara, this can make such places Halachic Batei Avoda Zara - where Tefila is Assur. <br /><br />It would be good if people thought things through...Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-20257999.post-92210016702768027872015-12-23T17:14:07.999+02:002015-12-23T17:14:07.999+02:00The impression I get is that since the police have...The impression I get is that since the police have enforcement power and the court doesn't, it's the police that decide the final application of law.<br />If this guy was smart, he'd look up all the references in Muslim "seforim" to Jews praying on the Mount being permissible and include them in the bill.Garnel Ironhearthttp://garnelironheart.blogspot.comnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-20257999.post-82094846262521025172015-12-23T16:00:41.309+02:002015-12-23T16:00:41.309+02:00He says the police and prime minister and others p...He says the police and prime minister and others preventing prayer would need firmer reasons that just saying no Jewish prayer as they do now Anonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15847354210976381166noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-20257999.post-61564932052267504552015-12-23T15:56:15.102+02:002015-12-23T15:56:15.102+02:00Hasn't the Supreme Court already ruled that Je...Hasn't the Supreme Court already ruled that Jews are allowed to pray on the Har HaBayit? Nevertheless, the police refuse to permit it because of public security. So what in the world would this law accomplish??dlzhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08269900740743979382noreply@blogger.com