tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-20257999.post3494456737564622071..comments2024-03-29T11:40:46.477+03:00Comments on Life in Israel: Gutterman needs to learn to danceRafi G.http://www.blogger.com/profile/00699851287106903971noreply@blogger.comBlogger9125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-20257999.post-80276226060695694352015-12-17T20:39:08.219+02:002015-12-17T20:39:08.219+02:00The tax benefits would last only until the next bu...The tax benefits would last only until the next budget cut. The arnona discounts will last forever.Markhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/05760733574758883958noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-20257999.post-81893315431094180062015-12-16T23:48:18.265+02:002015-12-16T23:48:18.265+02:00it isnt really to compensate for the negatives (wh...it isnt really to compensate for the negatives (while really it might be, of course Gutterman thinks there are no negatives)... governments give incentives for all sorts of things they want to encourage and promote. If they would want to encourage cities to build haredi neighborhoods they would give incentives for those cities to do so. and if they want haredim to move to those places, they'll give incentives to the haredim to do soRafi G.https://www.blogger.com/profile/00699851287106903971noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-20257999.post-29369655469499930652015-12-16T17:13:12.881+02:002015-12-16T17:13:12.881+02:00So the government should pay cities to compensate ...So the government should pay cities to compensate for the negatives that they see in inviting them. Why more subsidies?Miriamnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-20257999.post-27380839587863421312015-12-16T15:13:08.942+02:002015-12-16T15:13:08.942+02:00LOL. I was thinking of that as I was writing it, w...LOL. I was thinking of that as I was writing it, which is why I added "from his perspective" to that point :-)Rafi G.https://www.blogger.com/profile/00699851287106903971noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-20257999.post-7469300869768640722015-12-16T15:07:11.855+02:002015-12-16T15:07:11.855+02:00Oops. Bad day to present Haredim as non-violent, n...Oops. Bad day to present Haredim as non-violent, non-criminal and relatively peaceful: http://www.timesofisrael.com/undercover-cop-busts-ultra-orthodox-drugs-weapons-ring/<br /><br />(Not generalising. Just commenting on the timing)Rabbi Sedleyhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/03216379873253870218noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-20257999.post-80891384781075674582015-12-16T15:05:01.189+02:002015-12-16T15:05:01.189+02:00no, he didnt explain.
I understood him to be rfere...no, he didnt explain.<br />I understood him to be rfererring to the bracha via the tax incentives the city will benefit from for bringing haredim in. Thats how I understood it in context.<br />of course he might have been referring to the general bracha to be received as a result of increased torah study in the city.<br />another option is from his perspective the bracha of having a non-violent, non-criminal, relatively peaceful community added to the cityRafi G.https://www.blogger.com/profile/00699851287106903971noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-20257999.post-76103745016191524522015-12-16T14:35:38.336+02:002015-12-16T14:35:38.336+02:00He still hasn't explained why other mayors sho...He still hasn't explained why other mayors should believe that Charedim will be a net gain, economically. I would think that mayors are more likely to look at Bet Shemesh as an example of what will happen to them than Modiim Ilit.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-20257999.post-85306830989075193052015-12-16T13:49:58.937+02:002015-12-16T13:49:58.937+02:00the tax benefits would be to the city. tax "n...the tax benefits would be to the city. tax "nekudot" for all the local residents, or whatever. not arnona discounts (though qualifying people, including haredim, would continue to get arnona discounts as per whatever tables are in place in any given city based on income...).Rafi G.https://www.blogger.com/profile/00699851287106903971noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-20257999.post-67070862941843401052015-12-16T13:45:50.418+02:002015-12-16T13:45:50.418+02:00So the stigma is that Haredim don't pay arnona...So the stigma is that Haredim don't pay arnona. And the solution is to give them tax incentives (i.e. discounts on arnona)? How does that remove the stigma exactly?Rabbi Sedleyhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/03216379873253870218noreply@blogger.com