tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-20257999.post4357031427699144829..comments2024-03-28T21:53:53.990+02:00Comments on Life in Israel: Proposed Law: No mehadrin food to release an agunahRafi G.http://www.blogger.com/profile/00699851287106903971noreply@blogger.comBlogger9125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-20257999.post-11378648926141985632014-02-17T05:22:32.402+02:002014-02-17T05:22:32.402+02:00Other countries (usa specifically; but usa is depe...Other countries (usa specifically; but usa is dependent on 50 separate states and 50 separate rules) will use this as an argument against giving their prisoners kosher food.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-20257999.post-17464804307366182352014-02-14T07:32:30.018+02:002014-02-14T07:32:30.018+02:00The downside of this law may be less cooperation a...The downside of this law may be less cooperation against refusers by the Batei Din, which wouldn't want to send mehadrin-makpid men to jail. Batyahttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09402874037427009327noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-20257999.post-58555382491058618172014-02-13T18:06:21.161+02:002014-02-13T18:06:21.161+02:00Statistics Dispel Claims of 'Thousands of Isra...<a href="http://www.israelnationalnews.com/News/News.aspx/122884" rel="nofollow">Statistics Dispel Claims of 'Thousands of Israeli Agunot'</a><br /><br /><a href="http://www.israelnationalnews.com/News/News.aspx/146184" rel="nofollow">from 2011: Female 'Get' Refuser Jailed</a><br /><br /><a href="http://www.inn.co.il/News/News.aspx/21781" rel="nofollow">from 2002: פסק דין תקדימי: גבר לא יוכל לשאת אישה שנייה על פני אשתו הסרבנית</a><br /><br /><br />Joshnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-20257999.post-9597506894866690072014-02-13T17:36:59.413+02:002014-02-13T17:36:59.413+02:00The only time someone is imprisoned for get refusa...The only time someone is imprisoned for get refusal is when a Bet Din has already ruled that he is obligated to give a get.dlzhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08269900740743979382noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-20257999.post-27414834030064639982014-02-13T17:34:41.578+02:002014-02-13T17:34:41.578+02:00Jessica, it's not just a man. Women also have ...Jessica, it's not just a man. Women also have the right to refuse to accept a get. An article in Arutz7 only a couple of years ago reported that worldwide, there was actually slightly more men being refused gets than women, something like 160 on each side, worldwide.Joshnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-20257999.post-57802742613546280882014-02-13T17:16:46.016+02:002014-02-13T17:16:46.016+02:00I am fully in support of throwing anyone who refus...I am fully in support of throwing anyone who refuses a get in jail, and restricting their rights (e.g., no phone calls, even solitary confinement), however I think everyone is entitled to be fed and that would include someone who only eats mehadrin food.<br /><br />Also, this punishment is discriminatory - it would have no impact on get-refusers who eat regular Rabbanut food; why should some get -refusers be punished more than others?<br /><br />By the way, it takes a very warped person to be prepared to sit in jail just to hurt someone else, when he could get out by agreeing to sign a form, still there are a handful of people in that situation.Michael Sedleyhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/02684514303911193073noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-20257999.post-58888525659382742762014-02-13T16:28:29.720+02:002014-02-13T16:28:29.720+02:00Jessic, Orthodox Jews (like myself) believe that t...Jessic, Orthodox Jews (like myself) believe that this law is Divinely ordained, and is therefore not able to be abolished. dlzhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08269900740743979382noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-20257999.post-50282166197897532752014-02-13T16:08:22.826+02:002014-02-13T16:08:22.826+02:00I say abolish the orthodox Jewish law and allow a ...I say abolish the orthodox Jewish law and allow a woman to be free without a get. Why should a man have such a grip on his wife? It's absurd! This old fashion chauvinist law should be scrapped once and for all. Why should a man have such abhorrent powered?Jessic Madelehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/02826183822262553306noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-20257999.post-15893402295957594952014-02-13T15:18:08.530+02:002014-02-13T15:18:08.530+02:00Now I'll state off the top that I abhor get re...Now I'll state off the top that I abhor get refuses. However...<br />1) Get refusal is still a legal right under halacha. It's odious to do so but the man has every right. It's like saying you can spit in public then arresting someone for public disgusting behaviour.<br />2) An electric cattle prod to the testicles would take less time and cost the state less.Mighty Garnel Ironhearthttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09571194550300367249noreply@blogger.com