tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-20257999.post5682893869786216865..comments2024-03-29T11:40:46.477+03:00Comments on Life in Israel: Developments in the Ashkelon graves issueRafi G.http://www.blogger.com/profile/00699851287106903971noreply@blogger.comBlogger5125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-20257999.post-143505344352450912010-04-14T23:20:00.904+03:002010-04-14T23:20:00.904+03:00Mul - I have been thinking about this all day, as ...Mul - I have been thinking about this all day, as I felt like you. I just realized that we were both missing the point. The point was not opposition to Sharon. We are not criticizing Litzman and UTJ with this statement of hypocrisy. <br />We are criticizing the Eida and Asra Kadisha people (many of whom are Neturei Karta and Eida).<br /><br />For them the issue back then in 2005 should not have been to oppose Sharon. They would have been in favor (at least the NK people would have been) of the disengagement anyway. They should have fought tooth and nail for the graves to not be touched, regardless of the political issues.<br /><br />And perhaps they could have even used their connections in the PA to guarantee the safety of the graves.Rafi G.https://www.blogger.com/profile/00699851287106903971noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-20257999.post-6889016281966079012010-04-14T18:07:35.344+03:002010-04-14T18:07:35.344+03:00MK Amsalem has a great rebuttal to them.MK Amsalem <a href="http://www.ladaat.net/article.php?do=viewarticle&articleid=7718" rel="nofollow">has a great rebuttal</a> to them.yaakhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08179304707239865515noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-20257999.post-4686669009036098652010-04-14T09:15:51.532+03:002010-04-14T09:15:51.532+03:00From the pictures, it looks like the Eida meeting ...From the pictures, it looks like the Eida meeting was in Yerushalayim. I find it hard to believe they would shlep the Gaavad and the Raavad out to BS to the askanim and not the other way around.<br /><br />But I find a lot of things the Eida does hard to believe, so who knows?Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-20257999.post-89422441415193700702010-04-14T08:56:58.529+03:002010-04-14T08:56:58.529+03:00The point is there is no halachic issue involved w...The point is there is no halachic issue involved with moving pagan graves. The needs of the living must be attended to. It will not cost much to reinter the dead in another location.NormanFhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/03365459073293643108noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-20257999.post-76491546254250897592010-04-14T08:32:08.751+03:002010-04-14T08:32:08.751+03:00As much as it pains me to say it, the Gush Katif a...As much as it pains me to say it, the Gush Katif argument is outta place. <br />1. Once the decision was made, there is no question that על פי דין the Gush graves should have been moved.<br />2. There were many moral and strategic arguments against the the ....... of 2005, I don't think anyone can honestly say that it was wrong to do because it involved moving graves.<br />Hence there was no reason to oppose Sharon solely due to graves issue, and once the die was cast one can argue that it was muttar to move the Gush graves but it is still problematic (why, however is beyond me) to move the Barzelai ones. <br />Litzman was the one who pushed Gimmel into the goverment in 2005, and much of the DL/Chabad community hates him for that. But the two issues are unrelated.Eli Dukerhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/10733438132131254422noreply@blogger.com