tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-20257999.post8032469945750579381..comments2024-03-29T11:40:46.477+03:00Comments on Life in Israel: Haredim and Molestation in the CourtsRafi G.http://www.blogger.com/profile/00699851287106903971noreply@blogger.comBlogger64125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-20257999.post-89614008892158297082009-06-15T14:18:35.411+03:002009-06-15T14:18:35.411+03:00continued
5.A few days later, THIS TEACHER WAS BAC...continued<br />5.A few days later, THIS TEACHER WAS BACK TEACHING WITHOUT A SHADOW. SEVERAL PARENTS NOTICED THIS WHEN THEY CAME TO PICK UP THEIR KIDS OR STOPPED BY DURING THE DAY. THE PARENTS WERE NOT PREVIOUSLY INFORMED. When confronted, the school claimed that the ‘bdatz beis din in Yerushalayim poskened that she had to be allowed back without a shadow.’ (The assistant (sayat) and her husand have responded to the claims against her (which obviously they have every right to do) by taking the school to beis din.) So the school claims it ‘was forced’ by the interim directive of the beis din to let her back for a while without a shadow. AGAIN, THE PARENTS WERE NOT INFORMED OF THIS. (I am not sure of the present status of the beis din case or of the ganenet needing a shadow. Parents should ask about this question.) But it is a fact that there were several days she was allowed to do her normal job without a shadow. Does anyone think it is responsible of the school to allow this without informing the parents??<br /><br />To all parents in the gan, please when (if) you drop your kids off, ASK directly whether she will be working that day without a shadow.<br /><br /> <br /><br />6.It has come to light that this assistant (sayat) has in the past invited children (3 and 4 year olds) over for shabbos. Some children went. This is very uncommon. (My guess is that less (way less) than 3% of teachers of 3 year olds invite them to sleep over.) When parents heard this, they were surprised and concerned. The school has known about this at least for several months (maybe longer) but never informed the parents. <br /><br /> <br /><br />7.Some parents know the points being raised here and some don’t. I would encourage all of the parents to try to get as much info as possible from the other parents. <br /><br /><br /> <br />8.The school (as far as I know) has not asked for or followed the directives of the local RBS rabbonim who have congregants with children in the school. (Rabbis- Kornfeld, Malinowitz, Meyers, Soloveitchik, Zechariyash,or any others). Rather the school claims to have spoken to rabbonim from the Kiryah in Bet Shemesh ansd Rav Goldstein. Parents, based on the points above (which can all be confirmed without too much difficulty), I encourage you to ASK YOUR LOCAL RAV FOR ADVICE AND/OR A PSAK WHAT TO DO.<br /><br /><br />9. Faigie R is correct that based on the statistics, then the likelihood in this case is low. But she is making one fundamental mistake. If someone said 'they think there might be a concern and they want to know what to do', and they describe a case like this, and no one has yet made a formal complaint and no report has been written, etc.... Rather, a parent has a concern, then the percentages are low. However, in this particular case, given that the child and parents have gone through the professional process, and given that the report is there, and given that the school admits to the possibility of a second situation as well, and given that the parents certainly had no agenda to start with (everyone knows it's damaging to put kids through this even if it's true), and given that many people (including professionals) who are aware of the particulars (and are not hysterical people) in the case are VERY concerned, then in THIS CASE the percentages are not 'very unlikely' as Faigie R has been repeatedly saying. Obviously it is not definite, but it is certainly not very unlikely. <br /><br />10. Again, demand answers from the school, talk to your rabbonim, get and share info, ask professionals (like Faigie R and others have done). Please share this info with others.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-20257999.post-4488745357815505192009-06-15T14:06:06.495+03:002009-06-15T14:06:06.495+03:00In my opinion, The most important aspect of these ...In my opinion, The most important aspect of these blogs is that the facts are coming out. Thank you, Rafi.<br /><br /> <br /><br />To the mother in gan who wrote how the school handled it well.<br /><br /> <br />1.The school was aware of the allegations for several months before the meeting was held. The school ‘dealt’ with the situation by going to rabbonim in the Kiryah. The school claims that they were following these rabbonim. The parents were not originally informed of anything. The meeting was held only after tremendous pressure was put on by parents.<br /><br /> <br /><br />2.At the meeting, the school said she was suspended with pay. Then a few days later she was later back at gan. Not all of the parents were informed before she was allowed back at gan. Only when confronted, then the school claimed that this was being ‘forced’ upon them by the misrad hachinuch. She has to be allowed to teach with a shadow. The school never gave the name of who at the misrad hachinuch was involved and exactly how the decision was reached. So there is no way to verify this claim. What exactly was the misrad hachinuch told? Has it seen the report? Is the misrad aware of point 6?<br /><br /> <br />3.The report is (unfortunately r”l) very explicit. It does not talk about ‘(inappropriate) kissing and hugging’. The school saw the report. I don’t know what has happened since then about the report itself. Parents in the gan should demand to hear from the school what it knows from the report.<br /><br /> 4.<br />‘Sam’ is wrong when he claims that the main ganenet was new and inexperienced. But that is irrelevant. The fact is that the assistant was left behind with children alone on at least several, if not many, occasions. The school does not deny this (as far as I know).Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-20257999.post-81349578644067225912009-06-11T22:21:34.670+03:002009-06-11T22:21:34.670+03:00Sam- not so fast. Before you disappear, please ex...Sam- not so fast. Before you disappear, please explain yourself. Did you deliberately try to mislead all of us or did someone else mislead you and you mistakenly repeated that information as fact? If the latter is the case, have you confronted your source? Did any of the other information in your previous post come from this same source?<br /><br />You made a lot of wild statements in your previous post, now that we know that part of it is false, it's only right that you should please clarify what is 100% true and what is based on conjecture or third hand information.<br /><br />As a concerned parent I feel it is my right to know the facts. People on this blog have been very offensive toward us mothers (including Faigie) who are keeping our daughters in gan, but as you can all now see, just because people post something doesn't make it true.Mother in gannoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-20257999.post-45081369020802074022009-06-11T21:55:16.822+03:002009-06-11T21:55:16.822+03:00Your'e free to believe what you wish. May Has...Your'e free to believe what you wish. May Hashem grant you the Chochmah to look deeper into what you are seeing. I don't blame you for not being experienced in recognizing/dealing with a perpetrator. (By the way the two Rabbeim who are being accused with more police reports than this are also claiming their "innocence"- I know for a fact that they are not innocent). No crimes go unpunished - whether it be in this world or the next. Those that have hurt the innocent children WILL pay the price. May we be zocheh to see the coming of Moshiach very soon.Last Post By Samnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-20257999.post-69502036302801679632009-06-11T21:41:11.863+03:002009-06-11T21:41:11.863+03:00mrs rbs, you said that we shouldn't think frum...mrs rbs, you said that we shouldn't think frum people can't be abusers, because we have proof online with pictures of men convicted with long white beard sand payos.<br />Friend of Faigie pointed out that those profiles of molesters you mentioned prove Faigie's point that if a frum person does this, it is 99.9% of the time a man, because those websites show men names Moshe Chaim but not women named Leah Malka.<br />I didn't think she "accused" you of anything...just said your comment supported her friend's point.shmoonoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-20257999.post-10104502075935498592009-06-11T21:37:12.501+03:002009-06-11T21:37:12.501+03:00Just to back up the mother in the gan, my niece wa...Just to back up the mother in the gan, my niece was in gan with the main gannenet two years ago, so this business about her being a new teacher - total lie. <br /><br />Let's assume mother in gan knows what she is talking about. Didn't someone also say that the second report of abuse by a current girl in gan was retracted when the mother realized that she got scared by a neutral thing the kid said, because she KNEW about the first story (the five year old who said it happened two years ago? That's what I heard...and that would make a big difference.ladynoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-20257999.post-30605655645431275772009-06-11T19:22:06.622+03:002009-06-11T19:22:06.622+03:00As a parent in the gan, but not Baruch Hashem one ...As a parent in the gan, but not Baruch Hashem one of those involved in the accusation against the ganenet, I can only address the way the school is handling the situation. Unlike Sam, I do not wish to state as fact information which I heard second or third hand, so I will limit my comments to what I actually heard and saw with regard to this situation.<br /> <br />The principal called an emergency meeting of all the mothers in the gan and explained to us that the ganenet was being accused of sexual abuse by a three year old child in the gan. She also informed us that previous to this current case, a child who currently is five years old had claimed that two years prior, she too had been abused by this ganenet at the age of three. She said that due to the fact that there was now this second claim, she was removing the teacher from the class on paid leave. An expert in the area of molestation and abuse was also present at the meeting to answer questions parents had.<br /><br />Many mothers in the gan spoke to the ganenet accused, as well as the main ganenet and felt uncomfortable with that decision. Subsequently, the teacher stated that she planned to sue the school. It turns out that it is illegal to act upon an accusation in this way. The correct procedure is to keep the teacher in the class with someone observing at all times. When the school was made aware that this is the law according to Misrad Hachinuch, they allowed the teacher to return to the class after calling each parent to inform them of this. The parents were offered alternatives such as having parents take turns coming to the gan, or placing their daughters in the four year old gan for the remainder of the year. Most of the parents in the class are comfortable with the decision to have the teacher return to the class as evidenced by the fact that almost all continue to attend gan each day.<br /><br />In my opinion, the school has handled this well overall. They have demonstrated concern and are being very open and communicative with the parents.Mother in gannoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-20257999.post-58511214745328549212009-06-11T17:53:12.889+03:002009-06-11T17:53:12.889+03:00Mother,
Hey you actually mentioned the name of the...Mother,<br />Hey you actually mentioned the name of the school!<br />Maybe you even know some details about the accusation and how it was handled by the school, the therapist, the police, the rabbi and the parents.<br />Care to share?<br />Perhaps, you would like to make people feel better about how the school handled it.anonnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-20257999.post-70845002855971828732009-06-11T17:11:35.491+03:002009-06-11T17:11:35.491+03:00Sam- your statement "please realize that it w...Sam- your statement "please realize that it was the main ganenet's first year in the Gan and Predators are very good at what they do. I'm sure she had her co-teacher fooled" is a complete an utter LIE. The main ganenet is about to complete her third year at Magen Avot (possibly more, but I know she was there when my older daughter had her almost three years ago.) That is a known fact, and perhaps she taught more years before that. Why do you feel the need to lie and present yourself as an expert, particularly about something so easily disproven? All you accomplish is that you make us think you're lying about lots of other things you claim to know as facts. So when you claim to know for a fact that the accused was left in the gan with children, we all need to remember that you like to make up things and are not a reliable person to believe. <br />Potential abuse is a serious problem. If you know something about it, by all means share it with others, but don't lie just to support your opinion. My daughter is in the gan and I don't appreciate your lying in order to try and manipulate us into believing what you feel we should.Mother in gannoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-20257999.post-15836406451294438352009-06-10T12:04:19.283+03:002009-06-10T12:04:19.283+03:00Sam,
Please, elaborate. What is she accused of? W...Sam, <br />Please, elaborate. What is she accused of? When did she allegedly do it?<br />Which gan?<br />What did the school do?<br />What did the parents of the victim do?<br />What is the school doing now?<br />What are the police doing now?<br />What are the other parents in the gan doing?<br />Is she still teaching there?<br />How are you involved? Are you a parent in the gan? Did you speak to the parents in the gan? of the victim? Did you speak to the principal?anonnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-20257999.post-47107607789685013312009-06-10T09:39:35.324+03:002009-06-10T09:39:35.324+03:00Faigie Rosenstein Said again,
Someone told me she...Faigie Rosenstein Said again,<br /><br />Someone told me she is accused of being too intimate - kissing kids too much<br /><br />The accusations against the Gannenet have nothing to do with kissing. They are serious crimes. Without going into detail - this ganenet is really sick and not only performed acts on the child but did worse than that. If you speak to experts in sexual abuse you will find out that the type of stuff that was done is very common Predator stuff. The way that the child was able to describe and the wording that the teacher used to her and other proofs and things that the parent witnessed all are proof that this did indeed happen. There were many different things that happened here that all the parents of the Gan are not aware of. It was not just a one time accusation. If you would understand all the details and there are many, you would realize that this woman is a predator. And yes, please realize that it was the main ganenet's first year in the Gan and Predators are very good at what they do. I'm sure she had her co-teacher fooled. The children were taken many times to <br />Ayalon park with the main Ganenet. Of course she is going to say that noone was left back. Well guess what, some children were. I know that for a fact. I'm sorry that you are having such a hard time facing this reality but it is 100% true. No this is not the only complaint. In a few more days there will be public knowledge of another complaint filed against this teacher.<br /><br />Just another point. There is another child that was held back also by the predator. Why is she not being questioned? Doesn't she have a right to get the proper help? The school is aware of this and they refuse to question this child- Why? If they are so sure that the teacher is innocent what are they afraid of?Samnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-20257999.post-18624397172620867842009-06-10T08:31:59.728+03:002009-06-10T08:31:59.728+03:00friend of Faigie said...
Dear Mrs RBS,
I HAVE chec...friend of Faigie said...<br />Dear Mrs RBS,<br />I HAVE checked out those sites and seen the beards and payos and names like Avram Yeshaya Goldshmidt accused of raping little girls.<br />Too sad.<br />How many Rochel Bailas were listed as predators in NY? I didn't see any frum women on those lists, did you? If you did, please post the link to prove it, I want to check out that web page, not rely on anyone's hearsay.<br />Doesn't that prove the point that was made about frum women being unlikley perps?<br /><br />can anyone figure out what friend of Faigy is accusing me of? I am having a hard time trying to understand her point.<br /><br />p.s. it is common knowledge that most perpetrators are male. what does that have to do with my statement? and how does that make it highly unlikely that a female could have committed this heinous crime? OF COURSE a female could have committed this crime. Just because statistically it is more likely for a male to engage in this activity, by no means does that mean that females NEVER do it. <br /><br />Seriously, friend of Faigy...mrsRBSnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-20257999.post-54126626237812862642009-06-09T21:59:22.732+03:002009-06-09T21:59:22.732+03:00Let's be Rational,
Please don't make jokes...Let's be Rational,<br />Please don't make jokes.<br />This is PIKUACH NEFESH.<br />5Star mom means well, she's just probably a bit ignorant of the facts.RBS man on the streetnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-20257999.post-36328659566524951322009-06-09T21:58:09.467+03:002009-06-09T21:58:09.467+03:00Freind of Faigy -
As 5Star mom explained, there IS...Freind of Faigy -<br />As 5Star mom explained, there IS NO PROFILE. Anyone can abuse - women are just as likely to abuse as men are...<br />And Jews are just as likely to be suicide bombers as Muslims are...<br />Don't sterotype.let's be rationalnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-20257999.post-12710133027264281632009-06-09T21:55:17.151+03:002009-06-09T21:55:17.151+03:00Those who worry about the child who made the accus...Those who worry about the child who made the accusation, how about those who are accused falsely?<br />A few weeks ago my neighbor came to my home and demanded to look through my children's books. It turned out that his daughter was discussing inappropriate topics in school and the school called in a psychologist who talked to the child. The child was repeatedly pressed to disclose who told her all these words and explained male-female relations to her. Well, they wore the poor kid down, and I guess she was afraid to say the truth - so she said she read all this in a book in...my house. Well, the father couldn't find any book that raised any flags, so he apologized and went home. I am sure the parents suspect that she heard all this stuff from me...I promise she didn't! or that I had some dirty book I take out when kids come visiting...I don't!<br />Now that kid never comes over (not that I care) and who knows what the parents told everyone in town...<br />And there's no way I can prove that all I did was give the kid milk and cookies.<br />I can't prove something DIDN'T happen.<br />What if the child had said I not only showed her a dirty book, but molested her? Would you say I should lose my teaching job?frannoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-20257999.post-3603860799267870872009-06-09T21:46:47.772+03:002009-06-09T21:46:47.772+03:00Sam,
I take your point, the person doing these t...Sam, <br />I take your point, the person doing these things is not of sound mind and can't be counted on to act rational. How about the other teacher who is watching her, if the accused is never alone with children? Can we count on her?<br />And yes, I think it takes a lot of work and strength for parents to report abuse. I think parents should report suspected abuse, even when they can't be sure it happened. I never suggested that people reporting abuse are liars, and anyone who thinks I said that due to their hysteria, please find a quote and paste it in. I simply said there are some cases of false reports (and I don't pretend to have numbers and won't make up statistics based on my knowledge of a few cases, but I am sure it is a VERY small percentage) and I still maintain that anyone who refuses to acknowledge that truth - that molestation allegations CAN be false in a few cases, even though made by an "innocent" child - is just proving that they are not able to deal with reality in their pursuit of justice.faigie rosensteinnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-20257999.post-15510215920124920212009-06-09T21:34:33.392+03:002009-06-09T21:34:33.392+03:00Faigie,
When in doubt...
How can we take a chance?...Faigie,<br />When in doubt...<br />How can we take a chance?<br />But then again, those of you who disagree with Faigie, do you think the other gannenet in the classroom is in on it and wouldn't report her?<br />Is that a reasonable fear?Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-20257999.post-703408810698796722009-06-09T21:31:28.699+03:002009-06-09T21:31:28.699+03:00Dear Mrs RBS,
I HAVE checked out those sites and s...Dear Mrs RBS,<br />I HAVE checked out those sites and seen the beards and payos and names like Avram Yeshaya Goldshmidt accused of raping little girls.<br />Too sad.<br />How many Rochel Bailas were listed as predators in NY? I didn't see any frum women on those lists, did you? If you did, please post the link to prove it, I want to check out that web page, not rely on anyone's hearsay.<br />Doesn't that prove the point that was made about frum women being unlikley perps?friend of Faigienoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-20257999.post-83419980661030976882009-06-09T21:25:37.530+03:002009-06-09T21:25:37.530+03:00I am very concerned about the situation in town an...I am very concerned about the situation in town and obviously, in my child's school in particular. I appreciate everyone who is giving their advice, opinions and information (and whoever is writing things like that my children should be removed from my care, you prove my point: you LACK the ability to reason and judge things appropriately, and prove that nobody should listen to your advice on any matter of importance. If on the basis of my reasonable comments and views you think my kids should be taken away by social services, then I am not surprised that in the case where there is only an unreliable report of abuse, you would take away custody from a parent or fire a teacher, both wrong actions. <br />What is the point of investigations, let's just hang any adult ever accused of abuse, right?<br />My best friend is a speech therapist. She works with children. She is happy she is not a gannenet - at least if someone accuses her falsely of abuse, she can go work with adults... <br />I don't think the principal lied to me - I was told that there was one complaint, made by a five year old, that this happened two years before. I was also told that a second person who knew about the first complaint made a report, but then retracted it and said she jumped to the conclusion that there was abuse on the basis of knowing the history, which makes the second complaint a non-issue.<br />This leaves us with one complaint which ANYONE with any knowledge of children will tell you is not reliable (but just for the record, I checked with TWO clinical psychologists who agreed). A child of five reporting on events from two years before is NOT reliable. That doesn't mean it is false, just that it is (99% of the time) impossible for anyone to judge whether the statements are true or false if there is no other evidence to prove it (and no, behavioral problems or distress isn't proof).<br />If there is more on this teacher, then I would think differently - and again, for those of you who know so much about this case that you are saying it is dangerous for children to be around this woman, what did she do? Can you spell it out without being graphic? Someone told me she is accused of being too intimate - kissing kids too much. That isn't something to dismiss, but it isn't as dangerous as a violent predator, and perhaps the teacher could benefit from therapy. Those in the know, how many complaints are there, what is the nature of them, and please, do not yet again write comments saying that the five year old with the two-year-old complaint is to be believed. I agree it may be true, but without physical evidence to prove it - nobody can tell for sure. Are there other complaints?<br />Don't tell me to go call this place or that place - if you know, I'd believe you, so why are you keeping it a secret, you all who detest cover-ups and lies?faigie rosenstein againnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-20257999.post-26315390234047457592009-06-09T20:15:17.315+03:002009-06-09T20:15:17.315+03:00take a look at the NY state sex offenders registry...take a look at the NY state sex offenders registry and put in any zip code in the frum neighborhoods. You will be sad to see how many beards and peyos are shown (along with a brief description of the crimes they have committed).<br /><br />It is truly shocking.mrsRBSnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-20257999.post-89805028755740753612009-06-09T12:26:04.723+03:002009-06-09T12:26:04.723+03:005starmom & faigie -
If i was your child and k...5starmom & faigie - <br />If i was your child and knew that you know there was a KNOWN risk and you did not take me out of that place IMMEDIATELY...and would NEVER forgive you. Even if nothing happened to me. you should be ashamedSlingshotnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-20257999.post-81287092366030478012009-06-09T11:59:44.476+03:002009-06-09T11:59:44.476+03:00To Slingshot:
I strongly disagree with Faige'...To Slingshot:<br /><br />I strongly disagree with Faige's views but you are way over the line. <br /><br />Faige, we don't have access to the complaint and can't be informed of exactly what it is the ganenet has been accused of, but the legal parameters of child sex abuse are very clearly defined. I suggest you call the revacha, the police department, or a lawyer to find out what they are. Then you will at least know the parameters of what she has been accused of doing. It would certainly seem the resonsible thing to get as much accurate general information as possible before deciding that she poses no risk to your child, rather than relying on conjecture. There is real information to be had.5starmomnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-20257999.post-4482753255630566952009-06-09T10:25:00.503+03:002009-06-09T10:25:00.503+03:00Fagie -
If I was child services...I would take yo...Fagie - <br />If I was child services...I would take your child away.<br />You have no right to be a parent and place your child in UNNECESSARY risk. I am sure that you are more strict with shabbos laws than you children's lives and therefore your children should be taken from you. And that goes for all parents that send to schools where you KNOW that there are serious allegations. <br />You are all sick.Slingshotnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-20257999.post-37000152484214168002009-06-09T10:19:20.501+03:002009-06-09T10:19:20.501+03:00faigie rosenstein said...
The chance that she wo...faigie rosenstein said... <br /><br />The chance that she would do it again under these circumstances seems very tiny, though again, anything is possible...<br /><br /><br />You are thinking like a rational person. Do you realize that molesters cannot control themselves. Putting a molester in proximity of children is like putting alcohol in front of an alcoholic and saying - Don't drink. And yes, just like this woman who everyone says is sooo amazing with children and is soo charismatic - why not take a look at the Rabbeim who are molesting. They are also soo amazing with children and soo charismatic. You cannot tell by looking and observing them that they are so unwell. These people need more help than we can imagine and even with all the help they are still considered a danger to children. Of course the teacher/Rabbeim being accused are denying all of this. Their entire life is at stake. But it is what happened and I'm sorry that it is so difficult to face.<br /><br /> You need to realize that the families dealing with all these situations did not wake up one morning and decide to ruin someone's life. They have seen horrible trauma happening to their children. They have spent thousands of dollars on therapy to help their children. The have gone to professionals to evaluate everything. They have spent hours at the police station and in Mercaz Hagana. This is all during normal life. Parents are missing work, their other children are being taken care of by others etc..........Its also very difficult for the parents to come to terms with what happened. As parents we only want to protect our children. And as much as the teacher/Rabbeim are distressed, can you just imagine for one minute the distress of the children who are forced by the molesters to be violated. <br /><br />In most of the cases that happen there are only a very small number of families that have the strength to stand up to the truth. If you would speak to professionals in this area you would find out that after most of the families who speak out are threatened, harrassed, ostracized, etc..they no longer have strength to get their own family through the crisis and try to make the public aware of the dangers. And that is the main reason why there is so much molestation continuing in this town, because the perpetrators know it will take super-human strength to fight for the truth and only a very small number of individuals will be given the Siyatta Dishmaya to really stand up for the safety of children.Samnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-20257999.post-89786403470402285622009-06-09T09:21:35.251+03:002009-06-09T09:21:35.251+03:00Sam - are you saying the guest poster said that th...Sam - are you saying the guest poster said that there was more than one case seen in court of a female teacher with young children of her own who was accused of molesting female children in her classroom? Because the guest poster hasn't come out and said that he has seen that, as I predicted, because those cases almost never happen. You have a right to express your opinion, but don't lie.<br />The case against this teacher may be true, nobody ever said it is impossible, just that it is unlikley to be true. <br />At this point, the teacher has been suspended, has been crying and distressed, and is never alone with the children. Do you think under these conditions - where she knows she was accused in public (every mother in the gan was informed, there was no cover-up, and any further accusations will certainly be treated seriously), and now that she is never left alone with children, do you think even if she did something (what is it she did?), she would do it again?<br />The chance that she would do it again under these circumstances seems very tiny, though again, anything is possible...faigie rosensteinnoreply@blogger.com