tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-20257999.post8420758545478784722..comments2024-03-28T09:43:50.919+02:00Comments on Life in Israel: MK Yaako Asher opposes construction of new Haredi city of KasifRafi G.http://www.blogger.com/profile/00699851287106903971noreply@blogger.comBlogger7125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-20257999.post-90798934332307897362015-01-21T01:15:02.338+02:002015-01-21T01:15:02.338+02:00UTJ was in the government throughout the disengage...UTJ was in the government throughout the disengagement -- in Jan 2005 they gave Sharon his MAJORITY and they continued to support the GOVERNMENT throughout the entire process, as (non-haredi) shuls burned, etc.<br />Haaretz was the source for CONVENIENCE - there are many others -- see http://lifeinisrael.blogspot.co.il/2012/05/gafni-can-be-sued-by-disengagement.html and many other places. UTJ GAVE SHARON HIS MAJORITY FOR HIS EXPULSION GOVERNMENT IN JAN 2005.<br />Shas (under Yishai not Deri) was NOT in the government -- United "Tora" Judiasm was, and their "fee" was NIS 290 million. I even remember that the gov't reneged on their promise to pay the NIS 290 million fee, and United "Tora" Judiasm had to take them to court.<br />Whatever their assumptions were, the left-wing motion to expel Jews from their houses and to outlaw building in Judea and Samaria plays a central role in the skyrocketing prices of housing (simple supply and demand). And Haredi parties contributed to this -- Sha$ during their support of Oslo (giving Rabin his majority), and United "Tora" Judiasm for giving Sharon his majority for the Gush Katif expulsion.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-20257999.post-64948202849111870492015-01-20T17:13:21.281+02:002015-01-20T17:13:21.281+02:00Shas and UTJ MK's all either abstained or vote...Shas and UTJ MK's all either abstained or voted against the disengagement. They joined the government assuming that the law would never pass (a valid assumption IMHO) I am not going to get into a whole back and forth about this as I may be wrong :-) IN any even Haaretz is not a very reliable source for news especially if it has something to do with Hareidim, That would be like trusting Fox on a Obama popularity poll. Shalomnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-20257999.post-25403846246958243162015-01-20T10:20:57.148+02:002015-01-20T10:20:57.148+02:00United "Torah" Judiasm gave Ariel Sharon...United "Torah" Judiasm gave Ariel Sharon his Knesset majority in January 2005 for the 'expulsion government' in exchange for NIS 290 million in funding. As shuls in Gush Kafit burnt (not "haredi" shuls) and as widows & orphans of terror victims had to sit shivah AGAIN, MK Ravitz stayed on was the Welfare Minister.<br /><br />See -- http://www.haaretz.com/print-edition/news/utj-agrees-to-join-coalition-new-gov-t-expected-monday-1.146276<br /><br />I QUOTE (see the last paragraph)<br /><br />Meanwhile, the 13 Likud MKs who last week vowed to vote against Sharon's new government because of their opposition to the disengagement have decided to meet before Monday's Knesset ballot on this issue to make a final decision on how to vote. It is unclear whether they will vote against or abstain, or even whether all 13 will make the same decision.<br /><br />Had UTJ not joined the coalition, their 13 votes against would have been enough to prevent the government's approval.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-20257999.post-39129120608429304122015-01-20T08:50:34.382+02:002015-01-20T08:50:34.382+02:00Which Haredi party supported Gush Katif expulsion?...Which Haredi party supported Gush Katif expulsion?<br /><br />And BTW. Nobody here is asking for free land, the question is who gets to buy the land and who gets awarded the contract. The houses are planned for the community they will serve. Shalomnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-20257999.post-32279628426935707632015-01-20T00:11:02.637+02:002015-01-20T00:11:02.637+02:00But it sounds like everyone agrees that the ideal ...But it sounds like everyone agrees that the ideal Haredi setup is residential with nearby kollelim - so that can be set up absolutely anywhere, they don't need to be tied to Bnei Brak and Jerusalem.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-20257999.post-20510187744569708102015-01-19T19:11:39.665+02:002015-01-19T19:11:39.665+02:00I thought it was quite clever of them to figure ou...I thought it was quite clever of them to figure out a way to herd large numbers of Chareidim into the desert and away from everyone else like that.Mighty Garnel Ironhearthttp://garnelironheart.blogspot.comnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-20257999.post-82829919719559699532015-01-19T17:28:51.499+02:002015-01-19T17:28:51.499+02:00Welcome to the club. I also want a house in downto...Welcome to the club. I also want a house in downtown Jerusalem or Tel Aviv but I cannot afford it.<br />Housing is something you pay for -- it is not an entitlement. If you do not have the money, then work.<br />If the price of housing is bothering you, then the Haredi parties should have thought of that BEFORE they supported (in exchange for budgets) left-wing parties in Oslo and Gush Katif expulsion - of COURSE if you make locations in Israel's heartland off-limits then the price of housing will skyrocket. I guess they never taught you that.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.com