Some fliers were put around over the past few days quoting various rabbonim, most prominently Rav Elyashiv and Rav Ovadia Yosef, that wigs nowadays are prohibited to wear because they are too attractive and are not at all like the wigs of the time of the gemara that were allowed...
Usually I would just ignore these fliers, as they get passed around fairly frequently, but they reminded me of an interesting point I have made to some people verbally in the past.
Some people feel very strongly about Har HaBayit that it is assur to go up, and they will always say how the rabbonim are against it, quoting most prominently the gadol hador Rav elyashiv and nobody else can argue on that.
I say, if you are so into following Rav Elyashiv, then why does your wife wear a wig? Rav Elyashiv says it is assur to wear a wig and one must only cover her hair with a tichel.
So, you only listen to Rav Elyashiv when it is convenient for you, and you are willing to follow other opinions when Rav Elyashiv's is not convenient for you. So why do you care so much about me going up to Har HaBayit against Rav Elyashiv's psak?
Usually the person has no answer.
I think it just goes to show that even the frummest Jews pick and choose.
ReplyDeleteI disagree.
ReplyDeleteROY assurs all wigs to the best of my knowledge. Does RYSE? Or does he say nowadays wigs are not tzanua? If its the latter, then this "psak" is basically a pashkevil becasue RYSE has not seen a wig in probably 10 years, and is either relying on information given to gabbaim, or not even being told the question correctly.
Regarding my wifes sheitel, I ask my Rov if a woman is allowed to wear a wig that is tzanua, even acc to RYSE, and he can say its OK.
If your rov says that for some reason the poskei hador that come out b'peh echad against going up to har habayis would agree that in your case its allowed - thats a different scenario.
Your Rov needs to have pretty big shoulders to come out against the biggest poskim of our times.
In addition, sheitlach are based on minhagim of the past. It clearly has potential to be muttar, and now you are going to "outfrumming" everyone else. Many many gedolei yisroel's wives wore sheitlach. You can not come out across teh board and assur it.
I will even share with you a story. A friend wanted his wife to stop wearing a sheitel bc he felt it wasnt so tzanua, or bc of RYSE / RCK etc. He asked a Gadol and was told if his shvigger wears a sheitel, his wife also should, so as not to passul her mother.
Do you have a family minhag of going on to har habayis? (No, you cant go back to when the beis hamikdash was standing)
I have an easier way of dealing with this.
ReplyDeleteOn the walls of my shul (and building and electric box,etc) there are posters from numerous different organizations with the pictures of the same gedolim each telling me that my money should go to this particular tzedaka.
So I figure if the gadol can have a different opinion each day about which is the true charity I can also rely on the pesak of his that I like and disregard the others.
at least shimon peres is no hypocrite. his wife does not wear a sheitel.
ReplyDeleteanonymous - I have no problem with wigs. and I have no problem with people saying it is assur to go to Har HaBayit. Everybody can learn the halachos and come to the conclusions they derive, and speak to the poskim they are close with. I believe in diversity and each person following his rav and each person coming to his halachic conclusions (asking rabbonim shailohs is for when you dont have the ability to learn a sugya and come to a conclusion).
ReplyDeleteSo you want your wife to wear a wig and not go to har habayit that is fine by me. I dont see it as a contradiction.
The point I am trying to make is when people throw the opinion around as daas torah and once Rav Elyashiv says something nobody else can have an opinion. Then he says something else, that might be less popular (like assuring wigs), and then suddenly everyone has their own rav and don't need to listen to Rav Elyashiv.
Can I argue on Rav Elyashiv? of course not. But if I ask my rav a shailoh, and Rav Elyashiv comes out making a statement with a different conclusion, I don't have to change just because of that statement.
And about wigs, as far as I know Rav Moshe Feinstein has a tshuva saying it is the wife's issue and not the mans. Therefore the husband should stay out of the decision of whether to wear a sheitel or tichel. It is her mitzva not his. (I don't know if that includes a situation in which he has a preference like he hates the way she looks in a tichel or in a wig - maybe then he can state his preference).
Can I argue on Rav Elyashiv? of course not. But if I ask my rav a shailoh, and Rav Elyashiv comes out making a statement with a different conclusion, I don't have to change just because of that statement.
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but what gives your rav the right to disagree with the gadol hador?(if you are in the charedi sector especially)
KT
Joel Rich
Again, you are missing the fine line of chiluk between har habayis and sheitlach.
ReplyDeleteSheitlach is and has been a machlokes for years. Sheitlach by the very nature is subjective in terms of it is alluring and attractive, and what the geder of issur is.
This "psak" of RYSE is nothing more than a pashkevil - meaning that each individual sheitel is different, and unless you assur ALL sheitlach, an issue on bad sheitlach is meaningless, since everyone agrees to that. The question is HOW to define a bad sheitel.
Regarding Har HaBayis, the gedlei haposkim of our generation have come out in one voice to assur going onto har habayis. Granted, there are rabbonim who people turn to for psak that matir it under certain circumstances and to certain places on the mountaint. However, the gedolei haposkim of our generation are NOT in disagreement. There is no machlokes. RYSE, Rav Vosner, Rav Shach, RSZA, et al all agree that its assur.
Thats the difference. One does not need to follow every psak of every Gadol - what happens by a machlokes? But if its unanimous - among the Giants among us - its a different story.
Regarding the tzedakos - All those posters say is that tzedakah A is a good tzedakah. And so is B. And C. Etc. They never say give all your money to this cause or that cause. And the tzedaka organizations would never think that you should give them all your money to the exclusion of EVERYTHING else. Its simply very aggressive marketing that makes YOU think that this is what the Gadol means. No one said thats what they said and no one thinks you will believe that its true.
Joel -
ReplyDeletea. not my problem. that is his problem.
b. I think any rav, especially with the stature of being a rav of a community, had the right to come to his own decisions and psak. Rav Elyashiv's position is not equal to that of the Pope, and nowhere does it say that one person is the Decider (didn't Bush call himself that?)
anon - so, again, you are simply defining Rav Elyashiv's words to mean what you want. He said this, but he meant only those specific sheitels or styles. Maybe, maybe not.
ReplyDeleteAnd I amd efining his words on Har HaBayit how I want - he said assur, but it is really because he is worried about this or that (people going up without preparing properly or without being careful of where the azara was, etc.)
At the end of the day we are each picking and choosing what we listen to and how we define the words of Rav Elyashiv.
The difference is that I am willing to give you the right to define his words in whichever way is most convenient for you, but you are not willing to allow me the same right.
Reb Joel - what does that have to do with being chareidi?
ReplyDeleteWhy dont MO or DL poskim need to understand that just bc you have rabbanut smicha or YU smicha or RZNG smicha doesnt mean that you know the whole sugya? Just because you learned up a sugya does not mean that you have a full and proper understanding of the sugya. If a random Rabbi in a YI shul, for example, were to lay his psakim on the table in front of a Talmid chacham from EY (and i dont mean only the Gedolim) they would make minced meat out of them. The depth and breadth of their knowledge is simply not even close. And when you get to the level of the major poskim, Rav Nissim, RYSE. Rav Vosner - its a whole new level of psak, a whole new level of shimush talmidei chachamim etc.
I think its a bit arrogant for some MO or DL rov to argue on RYSE's psak. Now, if you tell me ROY or RME or RAS is on your side - or the MB or CI - thats a different story. But me vs RYSE is a joke at best
No -- ask your Rov how to define RYSE's words regarding sheitlach AND har habayis. Its not up to me and you how to define what he said
ReplyDeleteAnonymous is clearly misinformed about a number of issues:
ReplyDelete1. The history of the "pask" regarding har habayit is nowhere near as clear-cut as he thinks. There are clear records of great poskim of the past going up to HHB before it became a political/controversial issue.
2. His whole claim that one pask is a "pashkeviel" while the other is a clear-cut issue for the gedolei hador. Please don't forget that this latest flare-up of psak against going to HHB comes from newspaper report of a conversation between him and a secular (At best?)president of Israel! You think that's a psak? You think there aren't circumstances that can be thrown in to justify certain circumstances? Rafi is right. It's just a justification for those who feel like they have to take everything certain rabbis say (but not others) as torah m'sinai.
3. Anonymous believes that the quality of a DL/MO rabbi's psak is by definition qualitatively worse than that of a haredi gadol. Firstly, not only is he playing the very dangerous game of whose gadol is greater than whose, but he is clearly unaware of the stature of the gedolim that do exist in the DL/MO world- both in Israel and the US.
I am very comfortable defining my rebbe as a "gadol hador" even though he clearly has two feet squarely in the MO world. He once gave me a psak that I knew was against an opinion of R' Elyashiv. When I mentioned that, he seemed confused why this would be a factor in determining the halakha (any more than other dissenting opinions, that clearly shouldn't override his own understanding of the sugya).
"but what gives your rav the right to disagree with the gadol hador?"
ReplyDeleteperhaps see this post,
http://parsha.blogspot.com/2007/10/igros-moshe-on-wigs-part-ii.html
and the idea of local pesak, and minhagim based on disputes, starting with "Meanwhile, a minhag"
kt,
josh
This reminds me of how some people in chutz la'aretz cite the Satmar Rebbe to justify their reluctance to make aliyah - even though they never, ever follow anything else he said...
ReplyDeleteMrs. S - my long standing opinion is that everyone (myself included), with exception of course, does what is good and convenient for them. If necessary, they then find the rabbonim that support their worldview and psaken the way they like, each issue on its own.
ReplyDeleteif Rav Elyashiv fits one thing I want to do, I use his quote to justify my doing it. If another time I find an appropriate quote form Rav Shternbuch, I'll use him for the next issue. Then Rav Lior, then Rav Moshe, then Rav Wosner, then Rav Shlomo Zalman, then Rav Sherlo, then whoever else there is.
Anonymous,
ReplyDeleteMy point was that philosophically the charedi model aiui is more structured (and gives a greater span of control) towards a hierarchical model of Daas Torah with the gadol hador at the top.
In the USMO for example R' Schachter's opinion is given great weight but R' Willig may disagree and noone feels the system is challenged by the disagreement.
KT
Joel Rich
Jeremy - you seem to have missed what I said about NOT playing the Gadol game. I said its one thing for a rabbi to rely on ROY or RME or RAS, RHS, RYBS etc etc - its a different story entirely - as far as i am concerned for a Rabbi X from Young Israel of Y to come out against them. Not every Rabbi - but the average Rabbi in those circles? Why? How can I be so sure? Becasue I was in YU smicha. I have YU smicha. I know what a joke it is. I know what a joke it is to even PRETEND that you can paskin shailos based on a YU smicha.
ReplyDeleteAnd you know what? RHS agrees. I was there by the whole womens prayer group balagan. He also agrees that you cant have every tom dick and harry out paskining shailos. Not every guy with smicha in created equal, and not everyones opinion is worth anything.
Thats my point. If you ask your rov, and he goes against RYSE - HE needs to have some pretty big shoulders to stand on. No they dont need to be as big as RYSE. Not even as big as RCK. But, lemaaseh, you should at least be a baki in shas and poskim, able to asnwer a question anywhere in shulcha aruch.
How many rabbis in america - and we can go with chareidi rabbis as well - are able to do that?
Regarding har habayis - you are 100% correct. If you entire information is based on information read on a blob, quoting a secular newspaper writing abotu peres's trip to RYSE's sukka and the psak about har habayis- then yes, it IS a pashkevil.
But make no mistake about it. Thats not where everyone knows that youre not allowed to go to har habayis got the info from. This is old old news. The newsworthy aspect was only that all of a sudden peres is a follower and cares about this halacha.
If, as you say, there are records fo poskim going to har habayis - I am unaware of that.
Reb Joel --
ReplyDeleteIn the chareidi world there is plenty of machlokes in piskei halacha as well.
I am not sure where you get your information from.
What I am talking about is that if a poseik with shas at his finegrtips, a baki in shulcha aruch says something - RYSE, RHS etc you - meaning you, me, people reading these blogs - can not argure - even if you have the famed "smicha" , even if you give a daf yomi shiur, even if you know a lot of torah.
Even in the MO world there is - at least there should be - a hierarchy of psak. RHS's psakim should not considered equal to those who were his talmidim from when he was 60 years old, 40 years his junior. Kal v'chomer those talmidim that didnt understand his shiurim and psakim, and kal vechomer to those who didnt go to his shiur because they knew they couldnt chaap any of it.
I am not - and no one is - saying that every psak goes to the table of the biggest poseik out there. But random rabbi from such and such city cant just discard psakim of those that know 100 times more than them in breadth, and can out learn them in a single sugya in depth 100 times over.
And dont bring me examples from Europe of how each town had a Rov -- the rabbonim in America dont even know 10% of what those rabbonim knew. which was all of shas, tur and SH"A. So this new tyoe of rabbi - the American rabbi - is new on the scene and IMO, without precednt.
Not to take away from the important work that they do in trying to bring Torah to more people, and to bring more people closer - but we are not talking about talmidei chachomim.
The majority of rabbis in america would be avg talmidei chachomim in EY. No i dont have a study or any numbers to back me up. But I think, based on experience, Iam being generous )most of these Rabbis not being in learning in the last 20 or 30 years).
Yes, I know Rabbis Sobolofsky, Jacobson, Feldman etc - these are the exxceptions. I also know tons of rabbis who learned a few years ... and baruch shepatrani, now I can paskin
anon - of course, not every guy with smicha can pasken (though isnt that the definition of smicha?).
ReplyDeleteI have smicha, but I do not spend my days learning (I am kovei'a itim, but not at the level to be able to pasken on most things at the level that I can argue on rabbonim). Many guys with smicha are not involved with learning at the level of being able to pasken. Just because I once learned certain material fairly thoroughly does not mean I, or anyone similar, can pasken forever, without staying involved in that world at a high level.
But a rav? not just a guy who got smicha. a rav. a shul rabbi. someone who has comitted his life to learning. a commuity rav. someone like that has no right to pasken just because he is MO or DL. I don't know what you are talking about, and it sounds like you are saying that MO rabbonim who have clearly stayed on the path of learning and rabbanus are equals to people like me who studied for a few years and have not picked up the material since I got my paper saying I have smicha. That is ridiculous.
Any ravc, haredi, MO, DL or whatever other breakdown you want, has a right and an obligation to pasken as per how he learned a sugya and undertood the halacha, and not just by how he hears a certain gadol might or might not pasken (whether he can even verify it or not is a different issue.
And I dont see why you distinguish between MO/DL and haredi. your average haredi musmach is any better than the average MO musmach? just because he is haredi he can pasken but the MO cannot?
I don't know where you come off saying such things.
As an aside, I saw in the Hamodia today they have a big write-up about going to Har Habayit. Obviously they are against it, but it is still an interesting article, and they bring various authorities in history who were against it.
Rafi -- You missed my point where I mentioned chareidi rabbis also.
ReplyDeleteA rov who can learn - who DOES learn can paskin.
Maybe you have been here too long so your forgot what an American rabbi does all day. Most - a super rov - of american rabbis are no involved with learning. They do not learn on a level of RCM, your rov. They do not learn the hours that RCM learns. They did not learn the number of years that RCM learned. I use him as an example, but rabbonim here in EY are usually more then koveah ittim.
Most rabbis in america are social workers, spending their time helping people, bikur cholim, teaching basic level judaism to the masses, a chosson class here, offciating at a funer al there, paperwork at the shul, fund raising -- NOT learning, NOT shteiging.
I am not talking about the rabbonim who do shteig and who do learn be'iyun, and who do try to grow in their amkus hatorah. But most are not. And if you think I am wrong, I think you forgot what the average american rabbi is and does.
Just because a guy learned a few sugyas in nidda and taaroves does not mean that A) he can paskin; B) that he remembers the details of the sugya enough to paskin 10 20 30 years later based on that; C) is capable of paskining a shaila that is not covered in smicha - such as time of death (the YU class on this does not count), going to har habayis, or any other shaila that comes up on a day to day basis for the Rabbi.
Like I said, these rabbis are important. We need them. But they need to know their limits.
This is kind of off topic, and is really in response to Reb Joel's comment that a chareidi can not go against RYSE, and all I was trying to point out is that a MO rabbi cant either. The chareidi knows not to start up with RYSE, or he will find himself without a position, or worse (or better for sales, if he has a book on the market) on a pashkevil calling him all sorts of funny names
Now, while a rov has the achrayus to pasken based on what he knows -- he has an even bigger achrayus NOT to pasken what he doesnt know, and therefore needs to be quite sure of the scope of teh sugyas he knows NOTHING about, as well as the sugyas that he knows, but not enough to pasken.
That was the point of this exercise.
Hamodia in hebrew or english? Why dont you post it?
I am not - and no one is - saying that every psak goes to the table of the biggest poseik out there.
ReplyDelete====================
Yes, but once it has gone to him, how can anyone junior disagree?
KT
Joel Rich
Ebglish Hamodia. havent read the whole thing yet
ReplyDeleteI don't think people here are addressing Rafi's question. And that is, that if RYSE is the GH, how could others pasken against him or or not follow his psak in everything. Many shave with an electric razor, for example, yet I'm sure RYSE is against it. The same conundrum exists in the USA with RMF. Many will say, "but RMF says..." but will totally ignore his psakim that are not convenient.
ReplyDeleteAnonymous: "They do not learn on a level of RCM, your rov. They do not learn the hours that RCM learns. They did not learn the number of years that RCM learned."
ReplyDeleteNo disrespect to RCM, but isn't RCM basically a 'scholar' with Bet Din experience - until he came to RBS and began poskening shailos?
Trained, full time, career community rabbonim posken ba'al habos shailos their whole careers.
What makes them (apparently) inferior poskim to, say, RCM?
"learn on the level of RCM?"
ReplyDeleteThere is no level of learning that excuses a rav and talmid chochum in punishing the poor for his honor.
No American Rav, with how little he may learn, would act in such an imature and gaavadik manner.
RCM may have gone through Shas and poskim but to paraphrase the Kotzker rebbe, Z''L it is obvious that Shas and Poskim haven't gone through him.
Rav David Bar-Hayim is against the use of wigs.
ReplyDeleteTrained, full time, career community rabbonim posken ba'al habos shailos their whole careers.
ReplyDeleteOh please. A stam rabbi in america knows hilchos ribbis? hilchos scheinim? hilchos tzedakah? hilchos safrus? I can go on and on but I just dont have the time.
Moreover, when rabbonim become rabbonim they get shimush from top rabbonim - RYSE, RNK etc
red herring alert!!! chareidi vs. mo fight again!
ReplyDeleteThe fact is, it's irrelevant what group you sign on with, unless you are from certain chassidic sects that literally only follow "their" Rebba".
We all pick and choose. The trick is knowing who to ask what shailoh and how to word it, b/c if you are mostly honest, once you ask, you don't try again with someone else.
RMF assured timers on air comditioners, who follows that one? many more examples like this.
That basic facts are, we always pick and choose. MO vs Chareidi has nothing to do with this discussion.
BTW,
ReplyDeleteshmuel b'doro and yiftach b'doro. this doesn't mean you only go to RSE for shailos. It means you find a rov you have a reasonable feeling that is learned enough to answer your shailos and mature enough to find an answer and ask when he doesn't know. No one can know kol hatorah koolah and the gedolim themselves argue about psakim all the time and have since torah m'sinai.
I look at my rav as being the halachik equivalent to my GP/Family Doctor.
ReplyDeleteMany day-to-day questions he can answer himself - and some he refers on to the right specialists/experts.
The trust element is that I trust my Rav and GP to be able and willing to take that judgement call while protecting my (and not, say, his) best interests.
That's why gaiva (arrogance) is a red flag in either your Rav or your Doctor. However (to paraphrase), gaiva in a Doctor can cost you olam hazeh, whearas gaiva in your Rav can cost you olam ha-zeh AND olam habaa.
Chose both carefully!
I would like to know what types of wigs were allowed during the time when the gemara was written?
ReplyDeleteDoes anyone know?
Please let me know.
I'm comfortable with listening to my Rav over Rav Elyashiv or Rav Yosef. I'm confident their learning is equivalent. If he himself is not confident he can go to the mora dasra of my community. His learning, I have absolutely no doubt, is at least equal to that of Rav Elyashiv.
ReplyDeleteIt's all hype. I'm sure he is a talmid chochom and perhaps even a unique one but I am under no obligaton to listen to him. And our Rabbonim are just as good. These individuals are geonim, without a doubt.
I am Lubavitch, by the way. Although my words should really apply to every kehilla but Rav Elyashiv's.
my path to success,
ReplyDeleteSee Mishna shabbat 6:5 and commentaries thereon.
KT
Joel Rich
This also reminds me of the Bet Shemesh elections last year - a friend of mine was completely aghast that I wasn't voting for the Daas Torah platforms. Like I was some kind of kofer!
ReplyDeleteYet meanwhile her style sheitl and other choices of dress were against universally accepted charedi standards. But she - and others in her chevra - happened to send to schools that don't have a mother's takanon (signed list of lifestyle guidelines), so they could avoid the subject.
also a very good example
ReplyDeleteI l ike to sum it up that it's easier to follow daas torah for something non-invasive to your life, and even thereby justify that you follow daas torah in general.
ReplyDeleteSomeone who has little urge to go up to Har HaBayit, easy. Dropping a piece of paper in an envelope, easy. Take pride that you (or your wife) looks relatively plain on the street, not so easy.
On a less severe note - I just wanted to say that I really enjoyed the title of this post. Yashar koach!
ReplyDeletethanks toby
ReplyDeleteThere is No codified Halacha that a married woman must cover her hair totally and constantly whenever she steps out of her house.
ReplyDeleteThe Halachah has been MISinterpreted. When the Halachah refers to "Covering hair," it does not mean "Cover your hair with hair!" and "constantly for life." The Halachah is that:
A married woman is required to cover her hair when:
(1) she lights the candles to welcome in Shabbat and Yom Tov – lechavod Shabbat ve Yom Tov, and
(2) when she goes to the Synagogue, because that is the place of Kedusha.
The Halacha does not require anything more from married women. This is the true interpretation of the Halacha.
The misinterpretation of the Torah is completely Assur, and a twisting of the Torah.The Torah must remain straight.
In ancient times, a woman would only cover her hair upon entering the Beit HaMikdash. Similarly for the Sotah-otherwise she would not be required to cover her hair ordinarily, day to day.
ReplyDeleteIt is very important for people to know and realise that when a married woman covers her hair with 'Real Hair' the woman is covering herself with 100% Tumah. This is totally against the Torah.
Nothing could be more nonsensical than for a Jewish woman to cover her hair with someone else's hair -who was not Jewish as well! She can never fully be sure that this 'hair' has not come from meitim-despite any guarantee by the seller.This 'real hair' is doubly and in some circumstances, triply Tumah.
1.It will contain the leftover dead hair cells from another person - however much it has been treated, the tumah is still there.
2.This other person (likely to be a non-Jew who most likely was involved in some kind of Avodah Zarah) may have eaten bacon, ham, lobster etc, all of which are totally forbidden as unclean and non-kosher foods in Halacha.
3.If the woman happens to be the wife of a COHEN, then she is bringing her husband into close contact and proximity with meitim and Tumah Every day, and throughout their married life. This is clearly strictly against the Torah.
There is nothing more degrading and demeaning to a woman than to make her cover her hair FOR LIFE upon marriage.It is an abhorrent practice.
ReplyDeleteAny man who makes such a ridiculous demand on his wife, or wife-to-be, should similarly also be required by his wife to wear: long white stockings, even in the summer; a fur streimel; grow a long beard; wear a black hat and coat constantly, and cover his face when he speaks to his wife.Wigs -"la perruque"- were merely a fashion item in the time of Louis XIV-they are not for the Jewish woman!
Rabbi Menachem Schneeersohn tz”l, gave the directive that a married woman must cover her head with a “sheitel.” This needs to be corrected. Rabbi Schneersohn a"h, was a Tzaddik, – but on this – he was, unfortunately not correct.
It is extremely unhealthy and unhygienic for a woman to cover her hair constantly.The hair needs oxygen to breathe.A woman's hair will lose its natural beauty and shine, she may have scalp problems, some of her hair may fall out, she may get headaches, and she may end up cutting it short like a man, when she always wore it long, in order not to have too much discomfort from her hair covering.
Do you think that HaKadosh Baruch Hu commanded this of women? I can assure you that He did not.The commmandments are not meant to cause so much repression and oppression in women.Was Chava created with a wig? Of course not! Did she start wearing a wig? Of course not!
Please Wake Up.
Use the spark of intelligence that Hakadosh Baruch Hu gave to you and blessed you with.
And give your wig back to your husband if you wear one.
1. To all the women who are wondering about the sources:
ReplyDeleteWe have all been created, "Betselem Elokim" - "in the image of Elokim."
This means that we have been given something called "intelligence." The source is the very first Parsha, Bereishit - 1:27. It is time that people use the spark of intelligence and Kedusha with which Hashem has blessed them.
If your rabbi will tell you to go and jump into the depths of a glacier, presumably you would do that too – and give me a source for it?
“According to the Zohar”, I should also be covering my hair with a wig when I have a bath. “According to the Zohar and the Gemara” and all the sources that have misinterpreted the Halachah, and MIStranslated the Zohar, I should also have been born with a WIG on my head.
These sources and translations are incorrect, as they have deviated very far from the true and correct interpretation, of the Halachah.
2.Remember that the Jewish women are very, very holy. They are much more holy than the men. Look at the exemplary behaviour of the women at Har Sinai.
ReplyDeleteThe women never sinned at the Eigel, and so are greatly elevated. Many of the men, unfortunately, ran after a calf made out of a lump of gold – after they had just been given the Torah, and seen the greatest of all Revelations. The women refused to give their gold for the avodah zarah of the men.
The women were greatly elevated after such a wonderful display of Emunah, and they are regarded very highly in Shamayim.
That is why women are not even required to pray. They can pray at home on their own. Nor do women have to make up a minyan. That is how holy the Jewish women are. Men have to pray 3 times a day to remind them of their Creator.
The men are telling the women to put the hair of a non-Jewish woman who may have eaten things like snakes and sharks and alligators, and has worshipped in churches, Buddist temples or Hindu temples : on their own Heads. They had better wake up.
If the men don’t want to wake up to the truth, and the true interpretation of the Halacha, the women will wake them up – whether they like it or not.
3. Many righteous women influenced their husbands for the good at the Chet Haeigel and at the time of Korach.
It was these righteous women who succeeded in bringing their husbands back to their senses.
And because of these great women, the lives of their husbands were saved. Those men therefore turned away from the madness of avodah zarah, and the rebellion of Korach against Hashem's choice of Aharon, as Cohen HaGadol.
4. Look at the Jewish women in history, and remember how holy they are.
ReplyDelete(a) Yaakov, who was the greatest of the Avot, came to marry the 2 daughters of Lavan, Rachel and Leah. Lavan was not exactly a tzaddik. Yaakov went to Lavan, of all people, to marry his 2 daughters – not 1 daughter, but his 2 daughters. Nothing could be greater than that.
(b) Rut, who came from Moav, became the ancestor of David Hamelech.
(c ) Batya, the daughter of Paroh, was given eternal life because she rescued Moshe from the river. No one could have been more evil than Paroh.
(d) Devorah, was a Neviah, and also a Judge.
Women who came from such adverse backgrounds, were able to become builders of Am Yisrael. That is how holy the women are, and how much more elevated they are than the men.
This was never the case with men. It never happened the other way round.
Don't tell me it is holy for me to wear a WIG! Hair over my own hair? This is ridiculous!
Similarly, don’t tell me it is holy for me to plonk a permanent head covering on my head for the rest of my life. This is equally vile.
Please Wake Up.
Use the spark of intelligence that Hakadosh Baruch Hu gave to you and blessed you with.
And give your wig back to your husband if you wear one.
5. Remember: Not a single “dayan” or “rabbi” has the slightest bit of interest in correcting the situation for the women. Therefore, the women will have to correct the situation................for ..................themselves.
Whether you wish to accept the correction – which is true – is up to you. Are you going to live by the truth? Are you going to use the spark of intelligence that Hashem gave to you and all women? Or are you going to follow rabbis and dayanim who tell you to wear a wig in a Heat Wave – and you thank them for it as well?
Deborah - please email me offline. I have a proposition for you. israeli.jew (at) gmail.com
ReplyDeleteThe next things the ‘rabbis’ will come up with is to tell the woman to wear a CARPET on her head. Not a sheitel AND a hat, but a Carpet. Or you could go for 5 shaitels on your heads and a rug.
ReplyDeleteAnd do you know what the Jewish woman will say to her husband?
‘Yes, husband! I am now wearing a carpet on my head!’
You women must either be extremely thick, or petrified.