It is clear that the conversions are kosher. Can anybody imagine invalidating the Judaism of thousands of IDF soldiers just like that? The only one that perhaps still needs to convert is Avigdor Lieberman..
This is the most useless fight. After all, let's say one of these army converts becomes frum. Hey, it could happen. Then years down the road he's sitting in a yeshiva in Bene Beraq and gets a sidduch offer but they know he's a "ben Avraham Avinu" so they ask to see his conversion papers. What, the shadchan is just going to say "Well, the Knesset says he's Jewish so okay"? And the father of the bride? So what will this law matter?
1. they dont think in those terms. what will be if? whats the difference? he is Jewish. they are solving a problem now, not later.
2. are you suggesting that every time there is a dispute over policy and halacha, the most stringent opinion should automatically be followed, just in case in 20 years the subject evolves and finds himself part of that more extreme group? the State is offering to provide the most basic and minimum of halachic services. they dont feel the need to cater to the most stringent of opinions. if someone becomes more frum and feels unsure of his conversion, he can always go through another conversion lchumrah...
1. Yeah, typical Jewish thinking. Plug the dyke but do nothing about the floodwater behind it.
2. No, that's not my position. It's just frustrating that a country has a "chief rabbi" without the authority to tell the "gedolim" that he's in charge and can set the standards people must follow.
You seem to be missing a link to the news source.
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ReplyDeleteThis is the most useless fight.
ReplyDeleteAfter all, let's say one of these army converts becomes frum. Hey, it could happen. Then years down the road he's sitting in a yeshiva in Bene Beraq and gets a sidduch offer but they know he's a "ben Avraham Avinu" so they ask to see his conversion papers. What, the shadchan is just going to say "Well, the Knesset says he's Jewish so okay"? And the father of the bride?
So what will this law matter?
Garnel -
ReplyDelete1. they dont think in those terms. what will be if? whats the difference? he is Jewish. they are solving a problem now, not later.
2. are you suggesting that every time there is a dispute over policy and halacha, the most stringent opinion should automatically be followed, just in case in 20 years the subject evolves and finds himself part of that more extreme group? the State is offering to provide the most basic and minimum of halachic services. they dont feel the need to cater to the most stringent of opinions.
if someone becomes more frum and feels unsure of his conversion, he can always go through another conversion lchumrah...
1. Yeah, typical Jewish thinking. Plug the dyke but do nothing about the floodwater behind it.
ReplyDelete2. No, that's not my position. It's just frustrating that a country has a "chief rabbi" without the authority to tell the "gedolim" that he's in charge and can set the standards people must follow.
Garnel then your beef should be against the "gedolim"
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