Apr 23, 2013

New Pashkevil: husbands and wives walking together outside

This new pashkevil makes me scratch my head..



The beis din of Kehillas HaYerai'im has decided to sit and discuss many recent tragedies. By the power of the Torah, it has become known to them that the reason for the tragedies is because women walk with their husbands in the streets of the city. So, they have made a decree stating that it is a serious prohibition to go outside with one's wife, and whoever does so, is bringing bad upon himself and upon his household and upon all of Israel.
They also point out on the pashkevil that their beis din is the only one that has smicha going back all the way to Anshei Knesses HaGedola, and whoever listens to the, will be the recipient of blessings and will bring closer the ultimate redemption.

I do not even know what to say about this. I am just flabbergasted..


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20 comments:

  1. blukeApril 23, 2013 1:13 PM

    Could this be a joke?

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  2. Rafi G.April 23, 2013 1:26 PM

    it seems real to me. especially because it is using the name of kehillas hayerai'im and not the regular badatz... it could be. I almost hope it is a forgery. but it seems real to me.

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  3. Ben WaxmanApril 23, 2013 1:37 PM

    what are the disasters? the last election??? the upcoming giyus? the boston massacre? the way my chicken turned out?

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  4. dlzApril 23, 2013 2:14 PM

    Going back to Anshei Knesses HaGedola? Whom are they trying to fool?

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  5. RavTzairApril 23, 2013 2:14 PM

    the date on it is from a year and a half ago.

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    1. Rafi G.April 23, 2013 2:17 PM

      good catch. so they were this crazy a year and a half ago?

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  6. dlzApril 23, 2013 2:16 PM

    I personally never heard of this Badatz or any of the dayyanim. Not to mention the fact that they are apparently (if they exist at all) Nevi'i Sheker.

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    1. Mrs. S.April 23, 2013 7:59 PM

      I had the exact same reaction - namely, that they seem to be exhibiting the signs of a נביא שקר. Specifically, they dare to pretend that they are speaking in Hashem's Name and they are adding to the mitzvot of the Torah.

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  7. Rafi G.April 23, 2013 2:17 PM

    I am familiar with this Badatz and with Rav Shwartz who is the head of it (and one of the signators on this paper)

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    1. Rafi G.April 23, 2013 2:18 PM

      if you look at my profile, you will see that the dayan I received kabala in shechita from is Rav Shwartz from Kehillas haYeraim... though I have not seen him in about 6 or 7 years now...

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    2. dlzApril 23, 2013 2:22 PM

      If you know him, maybe you should ask him if it is real....

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    3. Rafi G.April 23, 2013 2:26 PM

      he wont remember me. and the only method I have of contacting him is going to Jerusalem and trying to find him in the beis din

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    4. shmildaApril 23, 2013 9:48 PM

      Is he a Ger chossid? Gerers would agree that married couples shouldn't walk together.

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    5. AnonymousApril 29, 2013 4:14 AM

      Does this mean you can walk with someone else's wife?

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  8. snagApril 23, 2013 3:16 PM

    Ben, sorry to hear about your chicken.

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    1. Ben WaxmanApril 23, 2013 3:17 PM

      thanks although it is a relief to know that i wasn't the cause

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  9. rwApril 23, 2013 3:16 PM

    If women can't walk out with their husbands... maybe they can walk with other people's husbands??

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  10. Baruch GitlinApril 23, 2013 4:10 PM

    The only thing to be flabbergasted about is that anyone could take any of this seriously! If we were going to take pashkevils seriously, I think we'd have to concede that Orthodox Judaism entered cult territory a long time ago.

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  11. MarkApril 24, 2013 6:37 PM

    Crazy. I have a question, when singing Od Yeshama (or saying the bracha), do they remove the words "ubechutzot yerushalaim"?

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