Oct 6, 2014

Women in public in Jerusalem

After years of fighting and court appeals, the "Tnuat HaYerushalmim" is finally taking the next step and actually placing an ad n buses around Jerusalem that will display the images of women.

The State finally came to an agreement with Egged by which Egged will not be allowed to refuse ads with images of women, but the State will reimburse them for damages when there is vandalism due to those ads.

I am sure they know this fight is far from over.

The first ad is running now and it shows female members of the organization and says "it is nice to meet you". Organizers say that they will continue to protect the city from attempts of censorship of women or excluding women from the public sphere, and it is the women who will advance Jerusalem into a better place.

Meanwhile, extremists have said that they will vandalize such hurtful ads, and it is not right to play with the sensitivities of the Haredi public. In the name of pluralism they do whatever they want while trampling the sensitivities in Jerusalem.

sources: INN and INN

I have not yet heard about any such damage, and I think it would have been reported quickly if it had happened... When I will be in Jerusalem tomorrow, I will keep my eyes out for buses with these advertisements...









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12 comments:

  1. Mighty Garnel IronheartOctober 06, 2014 3:10 PM

    > , extremists have said that they will vandalize such hurtful ads, and it is not right to play with the sensitivities of the Haredi public

    Right, but dina d'malchusa dina which forbids acts of vandalism isn't in their Shulchan Aruch

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  2. Tal BenscharOctober 06, 2014 5:54 PM

    I still think the "no pictures of any people, men or women" policy was the best compromise.

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    1. AviOctober 06, 2014 6:40 PM

      Kindly explain how that is a compromise.

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    2. JoshOctober 06, 2014 6:58 PM

      I agree. No men or women would be a good rule outside Jerusalem as well

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  3. ChanaOctober 06, 2014 6:50 PM

    It was an absurdity, not a compromise. Certain publics need to man up

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  4. Tal BenscharOctober 06, 2014 11:36 PM

    Chana, one of my clients was a very successful CEO (not Jewish) of a very famous luxury goods company that had been going down hill for some time, and he took it and made it highly successful during his tenure. One of the things he told me was very important was doing product-oriented advertising -- focusing the consumer on his company's products and their wonderful designs. Having reviewed many of their advertisements for one of our cases, almost all did not have any people on them at all.

    And as a I pointed out in the last thread, about 80% of the ads that were running on this very website had no people in them at all.

    So one can do very effective advertising without showing people.

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    1. AvinoamOctober 07, 2014 12:04 AM

      Of course you can if you so choose, and that's fine.

      But to ban humans? Really?

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    2. AnonymousOctober 07, 2014 2:16 AM

      Tal: Yours seems to be the most logical and sensible comment on this issue; especially after relating the interesting example of a non-Jewish man who, obviously, is a smart businessman, but there is such an unbelievable 'dislike' (putting it very mildly) towards chareidim that those who feel that way cannot be swayed ('sinat chinam').

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    3. JoshOctober 07, 2014 8:26 AM

      You bring up an important point. I am a 'caucasian' Ashkenazi, but i am extremely disappointed by the prevalence of very white skinned and usually blondish kids and people in advertising - and almost always in religious advertising. Advertise the product, forget about the goyish people from stock photos with kipas photo-shopped on their heads.

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    4. AnonymousOctober 07, 2014 11:33 AM

      Charedim don't distinguish between advertising of products and advertising of people. Do you believe it also makes sense to ban pictures of candidates running for election? How about pictures of sports figures? Sometimes the person *is* the product.

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  5. ChanaOctober 07, 2014 7:18 AM

    Why not let the advertiser choose? He's the one who wants to ingratiate his product with a particular group. I would imagine that they would not choose to use pictures of females in ads to the Haredi sector.
    Jerusalem is not an all-Haredi city, and this is a pretty extreme demand.
    Accusing anyone who disagrees that this is kowtowing to extremists of "sinat chinam" is in itself intolerant.

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  6. Esser AgarothOctober 07, 2014 11:38 AM

    I am so sick of Rachel Azaria and her pseudo-pluralistic crew.

    I can't even say that she's a leftist feminist in religious clothing, because she's not even IN religious clothing!

    These people are worse than Peace Now and b'Tzelem, who are a lot more straight forward about their agenda.

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