I only watched the first couple of minutes, but I already question your headline. The speaker clearly states he is talking about haredi yeshiva high schools. There is quite a difference between boys going to a school that wants them to graduate hs and go into a profession; and boys going to a school that wants them to graduate hs and go on to serve their country, and fully integrate into society and see themselves as commanded to help develop that society. One emphasizes parnassah (an important and positive step); one emphasizes societal involvement and development along with parnassah.
Also, I wonder about his inclusion of some schools as 'haredi yeshiva high schools'. Hayishuv Hahadash might be considered the forerunner of the Zionist yeshivah high schools such as Midreshiat Noam; not typically haredi. Rav Amiel was an active Mizrahi member. He also mentions Nahardea. I thought Nahardea was a hesder yeshivah in Nahariyah? I take it there is another Yeshivat Nahardea today?
Yes, he is talking about haredi yeshiva high schools. Nehardaa is a yeshiva high school. More modern haredi. Obviously it is a different Nehardaa than the one you referred to.
I don't know what hayishuv hechadash was like when it was started but when I knew guys from there (when I was in yeshiva) they were haredi, and definitely today they are
I only watched the first couple of minutes, but I already question your headline. The speaker clearly states he is talking about haredi yeshiva high schools. There is quite a difference between boys going to a school that wants them to graduate hs and go into a profession; and boys going to a school that wants them to graduate hs and go on to serve their country, and fully integrate into society and see themselves as commanded to help develop that society. One emphasizes parnassah (an important and positive step); one emphasizes societal involvement and development along with parnassah.
ReplyDeleteAlso, I wonder about his inclusion of some schools as 'haredi yeshiva high schools'. Hayishuv Hahadash might be considered the forerunner of the Zionist yeshivah high schools such as Midreshiat Noam; not typically haredi. Rav Amiel was an active Mizrahi member. He also mentions Nahardea. I thought Nahardea was a hesder yeshivah in Nahariyah? I take it there is another Yeshivat Nahardea today?
Yes, he is talking about haredi yeshiva high schools.
DeleteNehardaa is a yeshiva high school. More modern haredi. Obviously it is a different Nehardaa than the one you referred to.
I don't know what hayishuv hechadash was like when it was started but when I knew guys from there (when I was in yeshiva) they were haredi, and definitely today they are