Feb 23, 2020

Headlines Podcast: 2/22/20 - Show 260 - World Zionist Organization, Once in a lifetime opportunity to join, Or a rejection of 120 years of our Mesorah? (audio)





my comments on this episode were:
I appreciated the opinions rendered along with your arguments. I personally have no opinion if it is right or wrong to vote in the WZO elections. My stance is that I do not really care. They have done a fine job building the country until now and the frum community has grown during the past 100 years of WZO by leaps and bounds and has hardly, if at all, been negatively affected by them, so I see no big threat that requires sudden intervention, but I can also appreciate the drive to be aggressive now and take the fight to them.

I have two comments on the interviews:

1. Rav Lerner spoke about taking over and changing it from within by voting and influencing where the budgets should go. If it is suddenly allowed to work with the reform and decide where the money will go, you asked if that is right considering frum jews dont really donate to WZO, so is it right to decide where their money goes but I ask even further - if this works out and is a good idea, why not have the frum community join all the reform organizations and shuls and vote to change the way all these organizations function. Pay some membership money and then turn them into more pro-torah organizations! it sounds absurd, but why is this any different?

2. Rav Malinowitz was mistaken about the issue with Women of the Wall. The Kotel Agreement was that women of the wall would control the mixed area by Ezras Israel and would no longer hold their services by the general Kotel area where everyone else is. That was agreed to by all parties and then rescinded. They are not trying to change the charedi community by approving the agreement and letting them daven at the kotel the way they want - they would be taking them away from the kotel and putting them in a different area and letting them do their own thing.
While there might still be very valid reasons to oppose the arrangement, it should at least be presented properly. Justifying a big change in policy by providing false information does nobody justice.



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4 comments:

  1. I was much more bothered by the impression I was left with that our brothers and sisters hate us and it's war so do what you gotta do.
    KT

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  2. also the issue that one essentially lies to claim they agree with the zionist principles ---when no one in the Aguda would ever agree to sign a paper they are zionists , absent the lucre and hashpa'a here involved....

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    1. they deal with this claim in the interviews. the interviewees who discussed this issue insist it is ok because they are breaking up the words differently so the meaning is different. maybe call it a white lie at worst. sounds wrong to me, but if they can justify it to themselves, that's all that matters. anyone and everyone has the right to vote as long as they pay the fee, so they are not cheating anybody but themselves.

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    2. though Rav Ahron Feldman says it is assur to do this (not about lying but about the chilul hashem of declaring oneself a member of an organization that does not recognize the Jewish nation received the torah at sinai

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