KASHRUS ALERT:*Candies by HARIBO Company sweets are NOT KOSHER contain E428 gelatin derived from pig ligaments * are distributed in all markets and kosher supermarkets in Israel and all over the world.These gelatin based candies are illegally labeled "strictly kosher" “badatz”, they are not labeled Halal for muslims either (which would confirm no pig is being used if the Halal stamp would have been on the package).And it is written on the package - "without the consent of the rabbinical counsel ”There is NO appointed mashgiach overseeing such production of any of the HARIBO Candies.The rabbinical counsel of Israel has tried without success to remove the fake kosher label sticker added on the packaging.The sweets contains a NON KOSHER ingredient such as pig ligaments gelatin based called E428.Please warn everyone,DO NOT BUY THOSE NON KOSHER CANDIES FROM THIS COMPANY.
In addition, Paskesz has now put out a statement to avoid confusion, as Paskesz produces a line of Haribo candies with their kashrut, but the candies witht he kashrut alert are not from Paskesz...
It is always good to be aware and educated...
Here is an image I found of the candies with the alert:
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Shouldn't it at least say it's not kosher according to some?
ReplyDeleteWhy according to some. Gelatine from pigs is not kosher according to everyone 馃
Deleteas far as I know, this is not accurate. The Rabbanut (basic, not mehadrin) policy has always been that gelatine from not-kosher sources is kosher. The Tzitz Eliezer, Rav Tzvi Pesach Frank and others (eg Rav Ovadia Yosef) held this way and the initial psak was based on the hetter from Rav Chaim Ozer Grodzinski. In the USA general policy has been not use non kosher sourced gelatin, though there are some rabbonim that allow it, the kashrut organizations have not used it.
DeleteThis is true. I think most candy in Israel has "non-kosher" gelatin. You have to know what you're looking for if you don't want it.
DeleteWhat does the bogus label look like, since the paskesz one is legit, how to differentiate the real hechsher from the bogus one?
ReplyDeleteIs the bogus one a separate sticker adhered onto the packaging, or is it too inked directly on the package like the rest of the labeling?
I've looked for alerts with the picture but havent foud anything beyond a basic picture of haribo, so I dont know
DeleteJust check it it contains E428 or not.
DeleteI just got a picture and am adding it to the post
DeleteAs far as I can tell from the picture, the product is not labelled as "Kosher", rather it says "讘讛砖讙讞转 讘讚"抓 讞讜讙 讛专诪讘"诐" I have never heard of this Badatz, but to the best of my knowledge, all of the reputable "Badatzim" work together with the Rabbanut - i.e., they will only add their certification to products that already meet the standards of the Rabbanut and already have a Rabbanut Kashrut.
ReplyDeleteIf there is a product (or store or restaurant) with a "Badatz", but no Rabbanut, I would not eat there, this is not the way reputable Badatzim work, and there is no way to assess the standards of the Badatz.
What store sold the product? If they sell products that are not approved as Kosher by the Rabbinut, the store cannot call itself "kosher".
I dont know what store is selling it, but the store was likely just as duped by the hechsher and importer as anyone else. I wouldnt blame the store (unless they were the importers).
DeleteIf the store has a Tudat Kashrut, their Mashgiach should not have allowed the product into the store.
DeleteShould not be up to the discretion of the store owver, who can be duped just as easily as you or me. Although people complain about the Rabbinate's Monopoly on the word "Kosher". it means that any product or store which uses the word "Kosher" meets a minimum, clearly defined standard.
BTW - a quick search for "讘讚抓 讞讜讙 讛专诪讘诐" shows that it is a French Hashgacha that uses the word "Mehadrin" in a lot of their labelling, but is not recognized by the Rabbinate in Israel.
ReplyDeleteThere was recently a Kashrut alert to avoid cheese being sold in Israel as "Mehadrin Chalav Yisrael" with this hashgacha.
https://www.inn.co.il/news/256517
https://www.kosharot.co.il/index2.php?id=417653&lang=HEB
Bottom line, if it is not certified by the Rabbinate, it cannot be sold in Israel as Kosher and there is every reason to be suspicious.
importer labels are always a complication, as there is seemingly no oversight on them and the importer can basically print whatever he wants on the label and nobody is the wiser
DeleteRight - which is why they cannot use the Word Kosher unless the Kashrut was approved by the Rabbinate on an item-by-item basis. For example, Cheerios with an OU have supervised separate batches which have no risk of Chadash so that they meet the Rabbinates requirements. The Rabbinate doesn't blanked trust anybody, but works with organizations like the OU or Triangle-K or ay other Hechasher that a specific product-line meets their requirements.
Deletemost supermarkets or makolets dont have a teudat kashrut. they might have a teuda on the bakery section or the meat counter or the fruits and veggie section, but not on the store. they are selling packaged foods that each have their own hechsher, and no hechsher is on the store itself.
DeleteAll major supermarket chains have a Tuda on the store, in addition to a Tuda for the vegetables, dairy counter, meat counter, etc (except Tif Tam and Am/PM obviously)
DeleteSmaller Makoltes or candy stores, some do, others don't. But if you are buying in a story without a Tuda, you need to check the label on every item you pick up, just like you would in Chutz L'Artetz. This article is a great example why
Even without a Google search I see on the new picture added, next to hashgacha it says 讘爪专驻转 obviously a French Hashgacha.
Delete(Rafi, Thanks for the additional picture)
the Rabbanut in the past has rejected this French hashgacha and declared its cheeses not kosher upon import
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