Aug 22, 2024

Quote of the Day

I ignore the background noise. I'll continue to lead the national ceremony marking October 7 with sensitivity

  -- Minister Miri Regev regarding the complaints abut the plans she has put together for the ceremony marking the passing of the first year since the October 7th attack

What is "background noise"? the dissatisfaction and complaints from [some of] the affected communities, the families of the hostages, the families of fallen soldiers.. instead of talking to them and incorporating their concerns as much as possible into the planning, she considers them background noise







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13 comments:

  1. To politicians, once in power, anything anyone says is background noise.

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  2. Garnel IronheartAugust 22, 2024 6:03 PM

    Or she's saying the quiet part out loud - no matter what she does, these people will complain. She could meet with them and put out a dozen options for them to discuss and they will dismiss them all as inadequate. For them, she is wrong in whatever she does so she's stopped caring that they think.
    Look, Bibi could himself sit down with all the hostage families and tearfully apologize for dropping the ball on October 7. The response will be "Insincere" "Fake tears" "Took too long to apologize" and "Didn't make the right kind of apology". He knows this which is why he isn't bothering.

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    1. Or they could resign. But the quiet part is that they made clear they won't abandon power willingly no matter what. The state can literally burn and they won't give power to anybody else

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    2. Garnel IronheartAugust 22, 2024 10:12 PM

      People love to say that but why should they? They won the election fair and square. They are the legitimate government.
      Consider: Unlike Bibi who campaigned on judicial reform, Rabin was elected in 1993 after campaigning that he would NOT negotiate with the PLO. 2 years later Israel got Oslo and the post-Olso terror campaign. Massive protests in the streets. Did the government resign? Nope, it sent out the cops to brutalize the protestors for daring to oppose Oslo.
      So why should Bibi quit?

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    3. Because the state is in the worst state it has ever been?

      Besides the fact that Rabin didn't quit (and was killed...) doesn't mean Bibi shouldn't. Why would it mean that?

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    4. Garnel IronheartAugust 23, 2024 4:22 PM

      Meir didn't quit gracefully, she was pushed. Rabin didn't quit, he was, um, forced out. So why is Bibi being held to a different standard?

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    5. what colossal failure should Rabin have quit after? Back then I wanted him to quit, but I am not sure what the comparison is.
      After such a colossal disaster, just like the army and security heads with responsibility need to resign (after the war? during the war?), Bibi and other responsible politicians need to as well. Even if not as taking responsibility but to ask the people for their confidence again. He needs to call elections (which he will only do once he see the poll numbers in his favor) and let the people judge what happened and decide who they have confidence in to take us forward

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    6. In a normal electoral democracy, people serve out their terms. The US has had many disasters and has never had elections more than once every two years.

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    7. and here in Israel no government has ever served out its term, even without any disasters happening

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    8. the US has a presidential system, not a parliamentary system. I dont think they have a method for calling new elections in a non scheduled election year. if the President steps down, there is a line of succession. not everything about Israel can be compared to the USA

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    9. Obviously Israel is different. That doesn't mean that the US' system isn't better, and doesn't make more sense. You think Bibi should step down only because that is a possibility. If it wasn't, you might look at things differently.

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    10. Garnel IronheartAugust 26, 2024 6:52 PM

      > what colossal failure should Rabin have quit after?

      Um, Oslo?

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    11. In late 1995 people could still pretend it wasn't a disaster.

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