Last week there was a report about a crazy wedding in which the chosson had obtained a hetter mea rabbonim to marry because his first wife refused to accept a get, and his second wife was a member of the burqa club and had also been kept indoors by her parents for a year and a half for tzniyus reasons.
Shortly after I heard a rumor that the beis din had somehow canceled the wedding. I didn't know how or why they could do that, after the fact, and I didnt see any official report about it, so I let it be. Now, there are reports, conflicting as they are, as to how the situation has since developed.
Bechadrei is reporting that shortly after the wedding, the first wife decided to finally accept her get. The unhappily married couple went to the beis din of Rav Nissim Karelitz (I dont know why they had to go to Bnei Braq to take care of this - maybe that's where she is living) during the sheva brachos week and went through the divorce procedure.
Now, the conflicting reports are whether or not last week the new couple actually got married or not. Some family members claim it was a sham just to pressure the first wife to accept her get. At the same time, Bechadrei claims to have testimony from neighbors and other relatives that the wedding actually did take place and they are just trying to keep things quiet and not make a big deal now.
The second issue at odds is the hetter mea rabbonim the chosson had obtained. Some of those on the beis din of the Eida say they doubt the veracity of the story,, doubt he had obtained a hetter and doubt he actually got married. Relatives of the chosson present at the Eida discussion on the matter claim he didn't get a hetter, but also did not need one. They explain that from a halachic perspective there is no need for one. According to them, the cherem d'rabbeinu gershom against marrying a second wife does not apply when the wife is refusing to accept her get. They claim the cherem is only valid when the wife is willing but the husband refuses to give.
I have heard other claims against the validity of the cherem, specifically that it was limited to a 500 year time period with one extension, and has since expired. I never before heard that it is limited in scope.
Wow. Kim Kardashian has nothing on these people!
ReplyDeleteBH my daughter received her get Thursday.
ReplyDeleteHer ex was a sociopath and the Rabonim used a lot of reverse logic to talk his family and himself to give a get.
They only asked for $15,000 in return for a get and explained they are not giving the get for money. One day I will tell the whole story, but the biggest chidush, is that the father is a mashgiach in a yeshiva, yet he couldn't admit to any wrongdoing .
By law, all marriage and divorce is handled by courts associated with the Chief Rabbinate. Despite that, there are two alternatives that the Rabbinate and the Justice Ministry (in charge of the courts) give a wink and nod to: the Eidah Haredit in Yerushalayim does marriages and divorces, and Rav Karelitz's beit din in Bnei Brak does divorces. A couple looking for a way through the bureaucracy more efficiently might go to Bnei Brak. It's sort of a known thing.
ReplyDeleteNo doubt the second marriage may be declared null and void because it wasn't consummated. And why? Because sexual relations are not tzanua according to the burqa folks!
ReplyDelete" According to them, the cherem d'rabbeinu gershom against marrying a second wife does not apply when the wife is refusing to accept her get. They claim the cherem is only valid when the wife is willing but the husband refuses to give."
ReplyDeleteI never heard that one...
What's the logic?
When IS there a need for 100 Rabbonim? When the husband refuses to give?