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Jan 7, 2018
Interesting Psak: destroying someone's iPhone
Rav Yehuda Aryeh Dinner, a community rav and a dayan in Bnei Braq, has issued an interesting psak. Rav Dinner was asked if one sees his friend with a "passul" cellphone, such as an iPhone, can he take it away and dispose of it or break it?
Rav Dinner responded that it is even a mitzva to do so, for by doing so you are saving your friend from gehinnom.
Rav Dinner quoted a gemara that allows one to tear the immodest dress off a woman. Basically the reason to allow this behavior is "kol yisrael areivim zeh lazeh" - all Jews are responsible for each other.
source: Kikar
In the past Rav Dinner has been quoted as saying that a chazzan associated with the Peleg Yerushalmi should be removed from his post and not allowed to lead the services.
A couple of years ago there was a flurry of increasingly extreme halachic announcements like this - iPhone owners being invalid as witnesses, shofar blowers, chazzan, etc. Then it went quiet. I guess there are not enough other issue son the table now so it is making a comeback...
Rav Dinner responded that it is even a mitzva to do so, for by doing so you are saving your friend from gehinnom.
Rav Dinner quoted a gemara that allows one to tear the immodest dress off a woman. Basically the reason to allow this behavior is "kol yisrael areivim zeh lazeh" - all Jews are responsible for each other.
source: Kikar
In the past Rav Dinner has been quoted as saying that a chazzan associated with the Peleg Yerushalmi should be removed from his post and not allowed to lead the services.
A couple of years ago there was a flurry of increasingly extreme halachic announcements like this - iPhone owners being invalid as witnesses, shofar blowers, chazzan, etc. Then it went quiet. I guess there are not enough other issue son the table now so it is making a comeback...
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That's funny and scary at the same time. Does it cover android phones too?
ReplyDeleteSomeone should remove Dinner's head and break it. He advocates Gezeilah and Nezeq, which are both forbidden Min Hatorah, just because his personal opinion is that the item is not permitted.
ReplyDeleteHe is a disgusting person, and if someone tried to take my phone, I'd bash them in the head with my nice all-metal MacBook until they could no longer function.
Hmm. Sounds like Rav Dinner is also approving ripping indecent clothing off of women in public. This could get interesting.
ReplyDeleteLet me get this straight. Someone who believes that someone else's phone is "passul" has the right to destroy it? Someone who believes that a woman who is wearing "immodest" dress can tear the dress off her body, therefore making her appear more immodest?
ReplyDeletePlease fight these extremists. Yes, Jews have a responsibility to protect one another, but I think people do have free will, and there is a limit to what can be done in a situation where one Jew feels another is not acting properly. What right does anyone have to say that their opinion of "passul" or "immodest" is so authoritative that they can impose it on others?