Jul 14, 2026

Interesting Psak: Shabbos elevator in RBS D

This exact story happened in my building 25 or so years ago. I personally was involved in the sense of helping an elderly and unwell neighbor who lived on a higher floor. At the time the people involved did not go to a beis din but went to a local rav to resolve the dispute. 

Behadrei is reporting on a dispute in a building in RBS D. The building is 8 stories tall and residents living on the upper floors (including an elderly resident) want to use the Shabbos Elevator that was included in the building by the original kablan, which they iostensibly planned to benefit from when they bought their apartments, and everyone who purchased in the building knew this was an included feature which their apartment price included. They say they purchased the right to use the Shabbos elevator. Preventing them form using it will prevent them from being able to be mobile in general and even from going to shul sometimes on Shabbos and holidays.


Other neighbors oppose the use of the Shabbos elevator in the building in which they reside. They make claims of it being harmful to the education of their children, damaging to the spiritual atmosphere of the building and neighborhood.

Unable to resolve the matter amongst themselves, they agreed to go to a beis din for a decision.

The beis din heard both sides and their positions, and after weighing the matter has come to a decision.

The beis din stressed the issue of the holiness of Shabbos, the special charchter of Bet Shemesh and the sensitivity of the Haredi community to the operation of electrical systems on Shabbos, while also taking into consideration the the rights of the residents who purchased this ability when they purchased their apartments and that the shabbos elevator was installed as an original part of the building (rather than them requesting to add it at a later stage).

The beis din came up with a plan for a comprise by which the Shabbos elevator would be operating on a limited schedule, only certain hours of the day rather than over the entire Shabbos, and some other limitations (I imagine only stopping on the upper floors and the ground floor but not on the lower residential floors). Efforts will be made (nothing is specified so I do not know what the efforts are in real life) to minimize the sense of harm to the charachter of Shabbos, while filling the needs of the residents on the upper floors.

in the case that I was familiar with 25 or so years ago the rav they went to said the Shabbos elevator cannot be relied upon (he did not like the shabbos mode and did not consider it halachically problematic even bdieved) so the Shabbos elevator was not allowed to go into operation and the fellow above had to stay put on Shabbos and yomtov.



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2 comments:

  1. They use Torah to excuse their heartlessness.

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  2. Even worse, they have no knowledge of electricity.. Modern day Karaites!

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