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May 8, 2018
the kashrus problem with "breded" chicken
Every few years we get another "shooting in the tank" type of attack on the kashrus of chickens. By "shooting in the tank" type of attack I mean some big rav comes along and says the chickens shechted by this or that, or all of them, major kashrus organization cannot be relied.
In the latest version of this we have the Amshinover Rebbe saying to avoid eating chicken and people should eat turkey instead.
The Amshinover Rebbe did not give details of the problem is with the chickens, but his warning seems to be based on concerns he has with the breeding methods in use, and he is disturbed that the suppliers he spoke with refuse to allow him to inspect the breeding process - it seems he has information that the regular chickens are being bred with other chickens about which we do not have a kashrus tradition. When asked how serious the issue is, the Rebbe responded that if he had to choose between eating chicken and between the issue of eating gebrokts on Pesach, he would eat gebrokts on pesach (with hataras nedarim) rather than eat chicken in the current situation.
"Gebrokts or chicken" sounds pretty serious.
When asked about a shidduch in which the suitor eats chicken, the Rebbe said to break the shidduch or convince the young man to commit to not eating chicken any longer and that he is switching to eating turkey.
source: Behadrei
I am not a big fan of turkey, not including shawarma, so if I had to switch I would need to switch to meat rather than turkey.
I do find it ironic that the problem with chickens is the mixing with chickens that have no tradition so the solution is to switch to turkey, that technically has no kashrus tradition either, even though uit has become accepted by almost all kosher-eating communities...
In the latest version of this we have the Amshinover Rebbe saying to avoid eating chicken and people should eat turkey instead.
The Amshinover Rebbe did not give details of the problem is with the chickens, but his warning seems to be based on concerns he has with the breeding methods in use, and he is disturbed that the suppliers he spoke with refuse to allow him to inspect the breeding process - it seems he has information that the regular chickens are being bred with other chickens about which we do not have a kashrus tradition. When asked how serious the issue is, the Rebbe responded that if he had to choose between eating chicken and between the issue of eating gebrokts on Pesach, he would eat gebrokts on pesach (with hataras nedarim) rather than eat chicken in the current situation.
"Gebrokts or chicken" sounds pretty serious.
When asked about a shidduch in which the suitor eats chicken, the Rebbe said to break the shidduch or convince the young man to commit to not eating chicken any longer and that he is switching to eating turkey.
source: Behadrei
I am not a big fan of turkey, not including shawarma, so if I had to switch I would need to switch to meat rather than turkey.
I do find it ironic that the problem with chickens is the mixing with chickens that have no tradition so the solution is to switch to turkey, that technically has no kashrus tradition either, even though uit has become accepted by almost all kosher-eating communities...
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"I do find it ironic that the problem with chickens is the mixing with chickens that have no tradition so the solution is to switch to turkey, that technically has no kashrus tradition either...."
ReplyDeleteThat is indeed ironic. Interesting point. That says something about the flimsy nature of the mesora on birds, at least to prohibit, and despite that flimsiness, we follow the directions of our poskim. I was always annoyed that the ubiquitous and tasty looking Canada Goose is not subsumed in the goose mesora. It was a relief to learn that they taste awful.
Break off the shidduch! Do these people live in a world where "eilu v'eilu" means nothing?
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