Showing posts with label Ronen Bar. Show all posts
Showing posts with label Ronen Bar. Show all posts
May 21, 2025
why a ruling?
The Supreme Court just ruled the firing of Ronen Bar, head of the Shabak, was not according to proper procedure and was also unlawful due to conflict of interest.
I am not sure why the Supreme court ruled anything at all. Ronen Bar announced his plans to resign in June. In light of Bar's resignation, the government retracted its firing of Ronen Bar. If the government retracted the firing of Ronen Bar, there is retroactively no court petition to rule on.
So why is the Supreme Court ruling anything on this at all today?
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Apr 21, 2025
Ronen Bar's declaration
Ronen Bar, still head of the Shabak for now, submitted his declaration to the Supreme Court to explain why he should not be fired at this time (though supposedly he said he will resign soon anyway). and has created quite a stir.
In Bar's declaration he revealed some titillating information about Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu and some of his requests of the Shabak over the years including to collect information about leftist protestors, and to stand by the government in any situation of a constitutional crisis, and more. And this is just the portion that was made public. There is another portion of the declaration that is top secret and "for your eyes only" so we dont know what is included in that portion.
Obviously the Prime Minister's people, if not he himself, will declare it all lies and an attempt to bring down the right wing government.
And maybe it is.
We don't know. it is his word against his word, and we the simple people have no way to know who is telling the truth. Unless Bar has documentation and recordings, it is all hearsay.
All that being said, besides for possibly the "Qatargate" investigation that might be considered a conflict of interest, I personally do not see why any of this (not including the top secret portion of which we do not know the content), exciting and titillating as it might be, would be a reason to prevent his firing. Even if it were all true and this shows PM Netanyahu to be dangerous to democracy and to the State of Israel (which he is anyway, considering all the major tragedies that happened under his leadership), seemingly the government has the right to fire the head of the Shabak, unprecedented as it may be.
I still think it was a mistake for the Left to take on Ronen Bar as a sacred cow and protect him and protest on his behalf. He played a massive role in the failures of October 7, and he should not be protected. At most they should have used him as an example to demand more "responsibility" and resignations, not protect him to keep in his position as head of Shabak.
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Mar 23, 2025
defending Ronen Bar
As I mentioned the other day, I don't think the Left is doing anyone a service by defending Ronen Bar, head of the Shabak, from being fired by PM Netanyahu and his government. Bar Deserves to go home, whether by resignation or by firing.
The Opposition isnt doing anyone a favor, and is not protecting democracy by defending him. They are simply opposing the government, which is actually their job but in this case it is not a good cause. I think their defense of the Attorney General is fine - whatever you think of her, firing her is more complicated legally, she isn't responsible for the October 7 failure (at least not directly or explicitly), and her work and defending her can be seen as defending democracy.
That being said, Bar's firing has been frozen by the courts until the Supreme Court hears the petitions against the firing. As much as the Netanyahu government is trying to force a constitutional crisis, I don't think Bar's firing is going to bring it. I don't see the Supreme Court canceling the firing of Ronen Bar. I think they will let it pass. The law, and granted I am the furthest thing from an expert on this, seems pretty straightforward and it does not seem complicated to fire him and I think the Supreme Court will allow it. Of course the Qatargate investigation might be the one impediment, but I think it will be allowed. If they try it with the Attorney General and don't make do with just a witch hunt hearing and a statement of intentions but go through with it, then the Supreme Court would likely intervene as firing the Attorney General is far more complicated. We probably have to wait for our constitutional crisis until they try it with Gali Baharav Meara.
All that being said, I still find it reprehensible and highly hypocritical the way the government has chased everyone involved in October 7 out of office while they themselves refuse to acknowledge responsibility and resign and go to elections. As much as the security forces bear responsibility, the government does as well. Every claim they have made about the various individuals in the security forces applies equally to the government. Can they get away with? Obviously yes, as they have until now, but I still find it highly hypocritical and reprehensible.
The government should resign and go back to the public with elections for the public to renew its faith in the government, in all the politicians, or say who else they want to lead the country to finish the war or to rebuild the nation.
And, in addition, I think the government should wait for all these reforms and changes, which are highly divisive, until after the war. Greater unity is needed during wartime. Especially in a war that seems to be never-ending, so far 17 months long with no end in sight, in which the numbers of people reporting for more and more reserve duty has been decreasing, in which many people, rightly or wrongly, feel the government is simply extending the war to keep itself in power without needing to face the public, the government should wait for all these changes that cause protests and fighting. Concentrate on the war and save everything else for later. Yes, the government has the technical right to make these various changes. One can question if they have the moral right considering their responsibility for October 7, but they at least have the technical right. But even with the technical right, I dont see it as the smart or wise thing to be doing right now.
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Mar 17, 2025
Ronen Bar does not deserve backing
I dont think the Opposition, or the people, should come out protecting Ronen Bar.
Bar deserves to go home, and technically PM Netanyahu has the right to fire him. Obviously I am not taking Qatargate into account and the conflict of interest it creates, but if that is not a legal impediment, there is nothing technically wrong with the firing, and Bar does not deserve the backing of the Opposition.
The Opposition, and the people, should attack Netanyahu. He deserves to go home just like Bar does.
Bar does not deserve the backing of the Opposition. It just makes them look bad.
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