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Oct 2, 2014
Bet Shemesh news updates of the school situation and RBS C lack of shuls
two interesting updates to keep abreast of...
1. Regarding the school situation. Bais Yaakov Mishkenos Daas has been temporarily using part of the building of Beit Sefer Safot vTarbuyot. This was upheld as a temporary solution with the Iryah having the right to implement it.
It seems that temporary might be coming to an end, with a new temporary solution to be put into place.
According to NRG, the sides are close to coming to an agreement by which the Bais Yaakov girls will move out of the building and into new caravans that will be placed either in the school courtyard or in a courtyard nearby that is an abandoned basketball court due to safety issues that shut it down.
My questions/thoughts:
1. if new caravans could have been put down for the Bais Yaakov girls, why did they originally prefer to go to a conflict situation instead?
2. there is room in the school courtyard for all those caravans, and still have enough room for the kids to play during recess?
3. if the basketball court is unsafe for playing basketball, why is it safe for the girls to send the entire day there in classes and on breaks? I hope this is not going to be a case of negligence with someone getting hurt...
4. why can't the girls stay where they are, in the Safot school building? I know it is not ideal, but it is not an ideal situation. After the initial problems, I haven't heard of any major issues. So, if it seems to have been working until now, why not continue the current situation, of course alongside working on a permanent solution for Bais Yaakov Mishkenos.
5. if they can come to a working agreement, great. Agreeing on a solution is far better than a unilateral implementation.
2. Second update is about RBS C lack of shuls.
After feeling ignored, some residents in RBS C decided to put down a caravan for the Yom Kippur services. Representatives of the Iryah immediately arrived and had it removed. There was a protest and people are getting very hot in RBS C.
Residents blame the city, claiming that while the City is willing to let the nursery schools function illegally, with the implication being that this is so because of the connections those people have, yet for the residents the City isnt willing to budge an inch or provide services as necessary.
I don't know the city's side in this story, but I imagine they are trying to adhere strictly to their policy of no caravans in RBS C so they dont end up in a situation like RBS A where all the plots are filled with caravans so no schools are able to build buildings. Supposedly, and I dont know details, the City was willing to allow them to rent and put down respectable tents, like some shuls (in RBS B and elsewhere) do, and there may have been been an offer to let a group use the apartments that are waiting to be used by the illegal nursery schools.
I suspect that if the Iryah would allow the caravan to remain, it would remain there permanently. Would they really spend some thousands of shekels to put down a caravan for just one day of services and then remove it?
If the residents want the City to act fairly and honestly, for example regarding the nursery schools using apartments illegally, they cant then go putting down caravans illegally. If everything has to be on the up and up, that can be demanded of the residents as well.
The City is negligent in not providing basic services, such as a shul and a mikva. Whatever the residents do or have done does not remove that obligation of the Iryah or free them of the need to provide services.
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1. Regarding the school situation. Bais Yaakov Mishkenos Daas has been temporarily using part of the building of Beit Sefer Safot vTarbuyot. This was upheld as a temporary solution with the Iryah having the right to implement it.
It seems that temporary might be coming to an end, with a new temporary solution to be put into place.
According to NRG, the sides are close to coming to an agreement by which the Bais Yaakov girls will move out of the building and into new caravans that will be placed either in the school courtyard or in a courtyard nearby that is an abandoned basketball court due to safety issues that shut it down.
My questions/thoughts:
1. if new caravans could have been put down for the Bais Yaakov girls, why did they originally prefer to go to a conflict situation instead?
2. there is room in the school courtyard for all those caravans, and still have enough room for the kids to play during recess?
3. if the basketball court is unsafe for playing basketball, why is it safe for the girls to send the entire day there in classes and on breaks? I hope this is not going to be a case of negligence with someone getting hurt...
4. why can't the girls stay where they are, in the Safot school building? I know it is not ideal, but it is not an ideal situation. After the initial problems, I haven't heard of any major issues. So, if it seems to have been working until now, why not continue the current situation, of course alongside working on a permanent solution for Bais Yaakov Mishkenos.
5. if they can come to a working agreement, great. Agreeing on a solution is far better than a unilateral implementation.
2. Second update is about RBS C lack of shuls.
After feeling ignored, some residents in RBS C decided to put down a caravan for the Yom Kippur services. Representatives of the Iryah immediately arrived and had it removed. There was a protest and people are getting very hot in RBS C.
Residents blame the city, claiming that while the City is willing to let the nursery schools function illegally, with the implication being that this is so because of the connections those people have, yet for the residents the City isnt willing to budge an inch or provide services as necessary.
I don't know the city's side in this story, but I imagine they are trying to adhere strictly to their policy of no caravans in RBS C so they dont end up in a situation like RBS A where all the plots are filled with caravans so no schools are able to build buildings. Supposedly, and I dont know details, the City was willing to allow them to rent and put down respectable tents, like some shuls (in RBS B and elsewhere) do, and there may have been been an offer to let a group use the apartments that are waiting to be used by the illegal nursery schools.
I suspect that if the Iryah would allow the caravan to remain, it would remain there permanently. Would they really spend some thousands of shekels to put down a caravan for just one day of services and then remove it?
If the residents want the City to act fairly and honestly, for example regarding the nursery schools using apartments illegally, they cant then go putting down caravans illegally. If everything has to be on the up and up, that can be demanded of the residents as well.
The City is negligent in not providing basic services, such as a shul and a mikva. Whatever the residents do or have done does not remove that obligation of the Iryah or free them of the need to provide services.
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there is no basketball court next the b.y. premises. There is however a basketball court directly behind the safot v'tarbuyot school. It seems they will place caravans in the yard of safot (I believe there is no more space in the b.y. courtyard), or the adjoining basketball court.
ReplyDeleteThere is a basketball court directly behind (and connected to) the upper story of the Safot Vetarbuyot school. It was closed of several years ago due to a landslide on the end further from the school, where several large boulders crashed through the fence and ended up on the court. There is ample space to put down four or five caravans plus a play area on the side closer to the school, assuming that a fence would be put up between there and the area affected by the landslide. There is certainly no room for more caravans at the Mishkenot Da'at site; there is not even any normal space for the girls to play at recess.
ReplyDeleteA better option might be the huge vacated area directly across from the shopping center (next to the shul on the corner) which was used by a cheder affiliated with Shalom Ber Sorotzkin until a couple of years ago, which he has been using for other purposes since, with the Iriyah turning a blind eye despite protest of local residents who specifically requested over a year ago that this be given to Mishkenot Da'at.