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Sep 7, 2015
the girls with the amazing education show how amazing it really is
The situation with the "Seminar Hayashan" in Jerusalem has gotten really weird.
The court forced them to take in 21 girls that did not have a place to learn, after they were rejected, ostensibly for no good reason - just because they are sefardi girls.
The seminar is fighting the placement, and that is their right. They have taken in the girls for now, but are appealing through the courts and relevant authorities based on their claims to have the decision reversed or minimized.
So far so good.
Now though it seems that they are taking out their frustrations on the girls themselves. And that is wrong.
There were reports in the past few days about the girls being made to feel uncomfortable by the other girls in their classes. Being left out of activities, some verbal abuse. It should not be tolerated, but girls will be girls, and kids will be kids.
But today the girls went to learn somewhere else and did not tell the placed girls, so they were left out and all alone in the regular classroom.
source: Kikar
This was planned. This means teachers, and maybe people higher up as well, were involved in the subterfuge.
This is abusive.
What makes "Seminar Hayashan" such a premier school if they are so poor at interpersonal relations? If they can "spill the blood" of these girls, what good is their amazing education if this is how they behave to other people who are slightly different?
They should be befriending these girls and accepting of them. I have no problem with the school trying to place [some of] them in other schools, but as long as they are in Seminar Hayashan, until they are moved elsewhere if that should happen, they should be treated with basic dignity and respect.
This fight should not involve the kids at all. The administration, the parents, the courts, the rabbonim - whoever needs to be involved... but the kids should be left out of it.
The court forced them to take in 21 girls that did not have a place to learn, after they were rejected, ostensibly for no good reason - just because they are sefardi girls.
The seminar is fighting the placement, and that is their right. They have taken in the girls for now, but are appealing through the courts and relevant authorities based on their claims to have the decision reversed or minimized.
So far so good.
Now though it seems that they are taking out their frustrations on the girls themselves. And that is wrong.
There were reports in the past few days about the girls being made to feel uncomfortable by the other girls in their classes. Being left out of activities, some verbal abuse. It should not be tolerated, but girls will be girls, and kids will be kids.
But today the girls went to learn somewhere else and did not tell the placed girls, so they were left out and all alone in the regular classroom.
source: Kikar
This was planned. This means teachers, and maybe people higher up as well, were involved in the subterfuge.
This is abusive.
What makes "Seminar Hayashan" such a premier school if they are so poor at interpersonal relations? If they can "spill the blood" of these girls, what good is their amazing education if this is how they behave to other people who are slightly different?
They should be befriending these girls and accepting of them. I have no problem with the school trying to place [some of] them in other schools, but as long as they are in Seminar Hayashan, until they are moved elsewhere if that should happen, they should be treated with basic dignity and respect.
This fight should not involve the kids at all. The administration, the parents, the courts, the rabbonim - whoever needs to be involved... but the kids should be left out of it.
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The only rational reason for the school not welcoming other Jewish girls into their school is that they are not up to par 'education'-wise according to 'high educational' standards of the school. Just as universities such as Oxford would not accept someone who does not have the educational background or intelligence, according to the university's standards. But, if they are not accepting Jewish girls in a Yeshivah because of this or that or being Sephardi, Ashkenazi, Chasidish, or Litvish or whatever stupid reason, is not only inexcusable but a literal 'sin'. If the latter is the reason because they discriminate for no reason, the school should be shut down and those students of the school need 'derech eretz' classes ASAP.
ReplyDeleteWhether or not the young women fit in, how does one rationalize treating them this way?
ReplyDeleteThese are not little kids; it's a seminar l'Morot!
This is Torah?
What are they teaching there?
This would NEVER happen in the Dati Leumi world ANYWHERE. But that's obvious.
ReplyDeleteAnd therefore...
DeleteYour "therefore" depends upon whether you think exclusivity, protected in this manner, is something good.
DeleteTHIS is the problem with Charedi society today. Not the exclusivity - define for yourself an exclusive way of life, live it and enjoy it by all means. The problem is how to handle the "other", the one who doesn't fit into your standards: are you so fearful that they might "infect" your own ways that you do everything to avoid them? are they so beneath you that they are considered a different "class" of people not deserving of the respect or kindness you would give your own?
ReplyDeleteWe are the Jewish people - yes you can be a Levi, but there are still 11 other tribes you're supposed to get along with. And frankly if you decided to "be a Levi" then it's actually your job to SERVE AND HELP the other 11. Not avoid them like the plague, spit on them at demonstrations, call them Nazis and Amalek, etc.
Don't get me wrong. There are many fine Charedi people in the community. And of course great Rabbanim. But unfortunately this societal position tarnishes all of it.
This is why Charedism, and its adherents, need to go away. On their own, by force of violence, whatever. They are a blight on humanity, never mind the Jewish People. Their actions are despicable, and no amount of rationalization will change that. They epitomize everything that CHaZaL stated as the cause for the destruction of the second Temple. They have to be written out of Judaism the same way Christians were. They don't follow the Torah of Moshe Rabbeinu, and they spit on it daily.
ReplyDeleteThey will NOT be forgiven for their innumerable sins this Yom Kippur.
Oiy ! I am not sure talking about someone this way is right .. two wrongs don’t make a right . And I can’t say any sect has everyone doing what they should . It’s a different generation today with so many more Nisyonos so we can’t judge . When I went to a tegular Bais Yaakov system it included a girl who’s father was a Gabbai in a conservative shul .. so what ? We all got along both Sephardi , Ashkenazi , Modern , yeshivish , black hat , no hat ! That’s how I grew up BUT we can’t put down a whole group because some people ruin their reputation. Do we say all Doctors are horrible ? .. I have met more Doctors that need to learn to act like a mentch then Doctors that act properly . I volunteer in a hospital and see what’s going on . Let’s not judge people by where they belong but by what they stand for . Thanks
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