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May 30, 2019
post and pre election thoughts
some post-election and pre-elections thoughts:
1. last night, as it was all going down in the Knesset, it was a madhouse, with breaking news reports coming fast and furious, changing positions, trying to persuade new combinations of parties to join, and all sorts of craziness. It was wild.
2. Gafni today said he is going to recommend the party decide to not be willing to sit with Lieberman in any future coalition. Soon they wont have anyone to sit with.
3. Gafni, additionally, said, he would be fine with sitting with Lapid in a coalition. He said he never invalidated Lapid - only Litzman did and they do not always agree. Just remember, MK Gafni, that as one party, you either sit with someone or not. The fact that you and Litzman disagree is cute but as a party you have to decide what you will do. Unless you split up with Degel sitting with Lapid and Aguda not sitting.
4. Lieberman today spoke up and had some interestign things to say. One point he said was funny, in response to PM Netanyahu's attacks on him. Lieberman pointed out that someone who lives in Cesaria is trying to call someone who lives in the settlement of Nokdim a leftist - it doesn't work. That's funny.
5. Reports this morning had Netanyahu discussing intenrall in the Likud the possibility of preempting any future coalition talks with a statement that the Likud will not sit with Yisrael Beyteynu. Locking them out of any future coalition. Netanyahu might now be trying to destroy Yisrael Beyteynu and ensure they do not cross the threshold in the upcoming elections. If Lieberman survives, let alone thrives with popular support because of his stance, this might come back to bite Netanyahu when he can't form another coalition.
6. Zehut says they are running again, though it will be a more "modest" campaign. I guess that means no foot slapping on national television this time around.
7. What is going to happen with all the other parties that ran last time but did not pass - Hayemin Hechadash (Bennett/Shaked), Gesher, Oren Hazzan, and many others? I guess we'll find out soon enough. Even if they run again, or even if they don't, which party will their supporters vote for this time?
8. Netanyahu's behavior last night was horrendous, in my opinion. No shame. Doing anything just to stay in power. Everything was personal, and nothing for the good of the country, except that maybe he thinks he is the only thing good for the country. The thing that bothered me the most that I can think of was when I saw reported last night that he was making offers to all sorts of MKs from other parties to jump ship in exchange for straight out political bribes. Because they would not be able to run again on their current parties next time if they jump ship, he offered them cushy jobs to jump ship. Others, such as Druze MKs, he tried to persuade to jump ship with promises of walking back the nation state law passed in the last Knesset and reversing it. Whether you like the law or not, I dislike the law being used for personal benefit - have an ideology - pass a law, don't pass a law, whatever - just don't pass it one day because you need to for this and then reverse it the next day because you need to for that (especially with "that" being personal.
9. I almost hope that because of the way Netanyahu behaved yesterday the Likud MKs and central committee votes against him, rebels, or somehow chases him out of town into retirement. And if not, I hope the people punish him in the upcoming elections.
1. last night, as it was all going down in the Knesset, it was a madhouse, with breaking news reports coming fast and furious, changing positions, trying to persuade new combinations of parties to join, and all sorts of craziness. It was wild.
2. Gafni today said he is going to recommend the party decide to not be willing to sit with Lieberman in any future coalition. Soon they wont have anyone to sit with.
3. Gafni, additionally, said, he would be fine with sitting with Lapid in a coalition. He said he never invalidated Lapid - only Litzman did and they do not always agree. Just remember, MK Gafni, that as one party, you either sit with someone or not. The fact that you and Litzman disagree is cute but as a party you have to decide what you will do. Unless you split up with Degel sitting with Lapid and Aguda not sitting.
4. Lieberman today spoke up and had some interestign things to say. One point he said was funny, in response to PM Netanyahu's attacks on him. Lieberman pointed out that someone who lives in Cesaria is trying to call someone who lives in the settlement of Nokdim a leftist - it doesn't work. That's funny.
5. Reports this morning had Netanyahu discussing intenrall in the Likud the possibility of preempting any future coalition talks with a statement that the Likud will not sit with Yisrael Beyteynu. Locking them out of any future coalition. Netanyahu might now be trying to destroy Yisrael Beyteynu and ensure they do not cross the threshold in the upcoming elections. If Lieberman survives, let alone thrives with popular support because of his stance, this might come back to bite Netanyahu when he can't form another coalition.
6. Zehut says they are running again, though it will be a more "modest" campaign. I guess that means no foot slapping on national television this time around.
7. What is going to happen with all the other parties that ran last time but did not pass - Hayemin Hechadash (Bennett/Shaked), Gesher, Oren Hazzan, and many others? I guess we'll find out soon enough. Even if they run again, or even if they don't, which party will their supporters vote for this time?
8. Netanyahu's behavior last night was horrendous, in my opinion. No shame. Doing anything just to stay in power. Everything was personal, and nothing for the good of the country, except that maybe he thinks he is the only thing good for the country. The thing that bothered me the most that I can think of was when I saw reported last night that he was making offers to all sorts of MKs from other parties to jump ship in exchange for straight out political bribes. Because they would not be able to run again on their current parties next time if they jump ship, he offered them cushy jobs to jump ship. Others, such as Druze MKs, he tried to persuade to jump ship with promises of walking back the nation state law passed in the last Knesset and reversing it. Whether you like the law or not, I dislike the law being used for personal benefit - have an ideology - pass a law, don't pass a law, whatever - just don't pass it one day because you need to for this and then reverse it the next day because you need to for that (especially with "that" being personal.
9. I almost hope that because of the way Netanyahu behaved yesterday the Likud MKs and central committee votes against him, rebels, or somehow chases him out of town into retirement. And if not, I hope the people punish him in the upcoming elections.
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Whatever one's feelings on Bibi's administration of the country, one should never forget that he's a narcissistic megalomaniac. I have not long paid attention to Israeli politics (only since making Aliya), but his behavior is quite consistent.
ReplyDeleteThis party will not sit with that party is how we got into this mess in the first place. Bibi should have told his 'natural coalition partners' if they were not going to find a way to play nicely he was going to form a National Unity Government. No matter how you want to spin it, 58% of the mandates went to 'centrist' parties and 50% - 54% (depending how you view YB) went to right wing parties. Bibi tied his hands behind his back by declaring himself the leader of the right wing bloc.
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Deletefirst of all, that adds up to 108-112%. second how did you come with 58% going to centrist parties?
Centrist = Blue and White (Centre Left) + Likud (Centre Right) = 70/120
DeleteRight Wing Bloc (According to the PM) = 65/120 on election night, 60/120 today.
Bibi has never been a Right Wing Prime Minister. He has been a Right Wing PM with Left wing tendencies or a broken right wing. Just look at what he offered Labor in order to try to save him. Look at what parties have made up his coalitions in the past or his record on various 'right wing' issues.
I was very disappointed that there wasn't a single responsible adult in the Knesset Last night. Given that no one wanted elections, and that elections are not in the best interest of the country, and the end result will almost certainly be a coalition lead by Bibi - I was hoping that one MK from any of the other parties (maybe someone low down on the Blue-White list who may loose his seat anyway) would call the Likud negotiating team and say something like:
ReplyDeleteI do not support Netanyahu, but for the good of the country I am prepared to leave my party and support the government as a 1-man faction, however I think that the country desperately needs a new hospital in the center of the country (or more public holidays, or better recycling facilities, or any other pet-interest). If you include a new hospital (or whatever) in the coalition agreement, you have my vote.
A year from now, our hero who saved the country from elections could be at the ground-breaking ceremony of the new hospital and score a lot of positive points.
Unfortunately, that would have required a politician who thinks about the needs of the country ahead of their personal vendettas, and it seems like there was no one up to the task.
"Given that no one wanted elections, and that elections are not in the best interest of the country"
DeleteI watched [part of] Miki Zohar's speech right before the law went to vote. In it he said, in response to calls that this move is stealing democracy from the nation as they should be returning the mandate to the president to give someone else a chance, as the process was designed, that he is doing exactly what the nation wants. The nation voted for Bibi and wants Bibi as prime minister, not anybody else. Giving someone else a chance to form a coalition would be stealing democracy from the nation, as the people clearly want Bibi. Putting it back to elections is letting the people again choose who they want to be prime minister.
You can say that Bibi is more wanted than any other party head, but you can't say that most people wanted Bibi. He got a little over 35% of the vote, not a little over 50.
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