Showing posts with label Litzman. Show all posts
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Jun 12, 2022

goodbye Yaakov Litzman

So Yaakov Litzman, former MK from UTJ, is gone from public service, at least in the Knesset realm.

He is being replaced by Gur chassid Yitzchak Goldknopf, so I am not sure if before too long we will be pining for the days of Yaakov Litzman as MK or if this will work out well.

Either way. what he did to assist Malka Leifer avoid justice and trials (which he admitted to as part of the plea bargain) was pretty horrendous

Litzman was like a yoyo throughout his ministerial career seeing heights  in public surveys as the most popular minister and also seeing lows as among the most reviled. Litzman claims the Left did not like his spodik when he famously appeared at a Corona press conference on a Saturday night in full Gur regalia including the spodik and turned on him. He does not talk about the tough regulations he was imposing on the Israeli public with tight lockdowns and tough mask mandates, and he himself breaking his own rules, as alternative reasons for the turn in public opinion. Like all ministers, or at least like most, Litzman surely did some positive things, especially in his roles as Health Minister (and Deputy Minister) increasing MRis, surprise hospital evaluation visits, free dental care for kids, etc... and some less so. He himself likes to focus on how much he helped individuals, whoever asked no matter from which sector of Israeli society. The Haredi MKs like to treat the position of MK as a vaad bayit of sorts,. where they can help individuals more than helping the public with improving policy, and Litzman did a lot of that, and couches his assistance to Leifer as just helping someone in need, as if it was so innocent even though it entailed pressuring a psychiatrist to change his medical opinion on her ability to stand trial.

I doubt we have seen the last of Yaakov Litzman. He is too accomplished and capable to just ride away into the sunset. 




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Dec 28, 2021

who owns the club?

We see this again and again. Haredi MKs telling others MKs or Ministers with whom they have disagreements that they aren't Jewish, or aren't religious, and should take off the kipa from their heads.

After the initial attacks after the formation of the new government have settled down somewhat, last night in a special Knesset session for discussion of the new tax on disposable paper goods MK Yaakov Litzman (UTJ) attacked MK Gilad Kariv (Labor). Litzman said Kariv, a Reform rabbi, is a priest, not a rabbi, and should take off his kipa, he is a goy.

First, humorously, plenty of priests also wear a kipa. Just look at the Pope.

Second, agree or disagree with whoever you want on policy or lifestyle or whatever, but what Litzman said, and what other Haredi MKs have said several times to Bennett and others in the government since it was formed, "take off your kipa" or "you are a goy", shows, I think, exactly why they needed some time away from controlling the religious services of the country, or even their influence on the government. They feel that only they get to decide what Judaism is, how it is defined, and who qualifies to be a member. Disagree with Kariv, disagree with Reform Judaism (as has always been the case), disagree with Bennett, disagree with Matan Kahane, but you dont get to decide who is a Jew, who is a goy and who gets to wear a kipa. The Haredi community, or the Haredi politicians, aren't the owners of Judaism and don't get to decide who can be a member and who cannot.


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Dec 26, 2021

goodbye Yaakov Litzman

MK Aryeh Deri (Shas) waited until the Attorney General came to a conclusion in his open case. The conclusion was not nearly as bad as had been expected, but still bad, and they came to a plea bargain arrangement by which Deri would resign from the Knesset and pay a nice fine, but won't go to jail actively and won't be tagged with the label of "kalon" - moral turpitude - which would prevent him form running for Knesset again for a period of 7 years. So he resigns now but could theoretically run again for Knesset in the next elections, whenever they might be.

MK Yaakov Litzman (UTJ) is in a similar position, waiting for his case to be decided by the Attorney General as well. Litzman is being investigated for a few alleged crimes, including involvement in helping Malka Leifer avoid justice by illegally influencing medical evaluations of her ability to stand trial (among other things).

Litzman, it seems, isn't waiting for Mandelblit the way Deri did. Litzman just announced that he will not run for Knesset again, and it has nothing to do with the case against him and he is not waiting for a plea bargain. Litzman says he is 74 years old and does not need to be in the Knesset at this point and doesn't need to be dragged back to it.

Maybe he has had enough of the Knesset, maybe he has had enough of the investigations, maybe he is pre-empting what the Attorney General might decide, and maybe he just wants to retire and kick back on the beach or in the beis medrash. Whatever the real reason might be, and we may never know, unless the Admor of Gur intervenes and tells Litzman to run again, as he did a few elections ago, this may be the end of Litzman's days in government.







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Aug 22, 2021

MK Litzman supports Minister Yair Lapid's position (video)

Litzman is almost always interesting... interview starts at about the 10:40 mark





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May 27, 2021

Litzman being indicted for obstruction of justice and breach of trust

The Attorney General this evening announced and told Minister Yaakov Litzman that he is going to be indicted (dependent on a  disciplinary hearing) for breach of trust and obstruction of justice. The bribery charges have been dropped. One of the cases for which Litzman is going to be tried is his involvement in the Malka Leifer case in which he allegedly pressured doctors to change their diagnosis in order to deem her mentally unfit for trial so that she would not be deported (there are other cases as well).

Litzman's office put out a response that he has had the great merit to work for the people and to help and respond to the thousands of issues and requests sent to him form across the spectrum of Israeli society and his door is always open to help everyone.

I guess that means he is willing to even help [alleged] criminals and pedophiles who want him to help them avoid trials and justice. I would note that he has never denied it - he has always simply responded that he helps everyone and has no personal relationship with her.

I clearly do not know if he is innocent or guilty, but I am happy that this is finally moving forward and will at some point in the not too distant future be clarified one way or another.

I would note that being indicted means he will no longer be able to serve as minister (at least not until he is declared innocent, should he be)....The Prime Minister is the only minister that can continue legally to serve while under indictment. All other ministers must resign upon indictment.


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May 3, 2021

Quote of the Day

Don't mix the political crisis into the terrible tragedy. There is no place for closing accounts politically on the backs of the tormented families

  -- Minister Yaakov Litzman

in other words, don't take it out on us because the families are in pain


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Apr 18, 2021

interview with Minister Yaakov Litzman (video)







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Apr 7, 2021

Interview with Minister Litzman (video)








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Dec 24, 2020

Quote of the Day

I have already proven that what is important to me is ideology and not the seat. I already gave up my position as minister, and the Likud got the message. People thought I was just threatening, but they then saw that there is someone willing to give things up for ideology... I am the last one to worry about lowering the minimum threshold. I represent the largest Chassidic group, and it would be enough for me to coordinate with Vizsnitz to succeed and get past the threshold. The reason I oppose it is because I dont want machloket/argument. A low minimum threshold opens the door to arguments, and I won't be a part of that.

  -- Minister Yaakov Litzman explaining why he refused to Support his party member's law proposal to lower the minimum threshold

1. they also all saw that as soon as the crisis finished, Litzman took his seat back. So it is less about giving up for ideology and more about avoiding responsibility. But yes, they saw he was willing to give up his seat for something

2. if he is so against machloket and therefore against lowering the threshold, maybe he should also be willing to give some power in his party to some of the other people and not take it each time for himself while leaving some of the others with very little (ie Eichler)



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Dec 3, 2020

Quote of the Day

The fact is that the morbidity rate has gone down by the Haredim. If they want to do a closure, they should do it only by the secular and Arabs, and not by us the Haredim

  -- Minister Yaakov Litzman, about the possibility of another lockdown/closure, or partial lockdown, over Chanukah 



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Nov 12, 2020

the puppet minister that doesn't want to be a puppet minister

The Minister of Housing is resigning. Again. Sort of. Not really. It is a different Minister of Housing than the one that resigned just a couple of months ago, but ok. 

Yaakov Litzman resigned from the role a little while back, shortly after taking office, because he was upset at the government for imposing a lockdown over Rosh Hashana and Yom Kippur.

Litzman then tried to work out an arrangement where someone else form a different party would agree to take on the Ministerial role in name only while allowing Litzman to be appointed as Deputy Minister and actually run the ministry. After some difficulty, he found a willing partner in Itzik Cohen of Shas. Cohen was appointed Minister of Housing about 3 weeks ago.

For whatever reason, Litzman has not yet taken on the post of Deputy Minister. but his people have been running the ministry anyway.

And now the Minister of Housing, Itzik Cohen, has announced his resignation.

I don't know if this is more or less dramatic than Litzman's resignation, but he is not resigning over chilul shabbos, and he isn't resigning over some new Corona rule or lockdown. In his official letter of resignation, Itzik Cohen explains that he is resigning because in this difficult time he feels he must dedicate all his time to the Finance Ministry in which he holds the position of Deputy Minister.




According to the report on Kikar though, the real reason Cohen is resigning is that he refused to just be a puppet of Litzman in the ministry and wanted some actual authority, which Litzman was not willing to give him.   

Which is funny, if true, because the entire position given to him, and the entire country knew it, was to be Litzman's figurehead at the top so that Litzman could run the ministry from slightly lower down.

Well, this puts Litzman up a creek for a bit. He cannot be appointed Deputy Minister without a Minister above him. Netanyahu can't be the minister, as he used to, because of the indictments on him, and so far nobody else has been willing to take that position.

This also puts Gafni and Degel in a bind. It seems that recent experiences have strengthened Litzman's resolve to no longer be a minister. That means, in the next Knesset, whenever that might be, Litzman will likely choose the head of the Finance Committee, that Gafni has held onto for a while - according to internal agreements, after the next election Agudah gets first choice of position. While Aguda has recently been willing to take ministerial positions, via Litzman, Degel never has and says they will not. If Litzman will get first choice, he very well may want to avoid all these problems in the future and go back to the Finance Committee that he held before Gafni. And then Gafni has to take a lesser position or figure out how to be a minister-equivalent without being a minister, or become a minister (or arrange a deputy ministerial spot under a puppet minister).

This is getting messy.







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Nov 11, 2020

Black-White interview with MK Yaakov Litzman (video)







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Nov 3, 2020

Quote of the Day

We made a decision last week that we would discuss the issue of [increasing the] fines. How can Netanyahu go ahead and make such a decision without first talking with us? what are we  - air? [What's the alternative?] supporting Bennett for Prime Minister.

  -- MK Yaakov Litzman (UTJ)

Litzman often says things without first consulting with the other factions in UTJ, so he doesn't necessarily speak for UTJ, but it is still a big statement to start publicly talking about supporting someone else, and saying a specific person, for PM instead of Netanyahu.

Liztman, and UTJ, are upset at Netanyahu for recent statements made that they see as anti-haredi and various regulations that they feel targeted Haredim and now the attempt to increase fines significantly for schools that break the CoronaVirus rules...




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Oct 26, 2020

Quote of the Day

I feel as though nobody takes us into account. If there is a head of the coalition (coalitzya, in Hebrew) and a head of the opposition (oppozitzya, in Hebrew) then I want to be the head of the coppolition (copozitzya)..

  -- MK  Yaakov Litzman (UTJ), combining the words opposition and coaliton indicating that they are only partially in and partially out. And this is in the spirit of Ben Gurion's Um Shmum



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Sep 29, 2020

Yaakov "I'll be back" Litzman

The news is reporting that MK Yaakov Litzman (UTJ) is working on making his way to back to the government, once again as a Deputy Minister. Same job, slightly less responsibility, mostly in name since he always takes these Deputy Minister jobs with all the authority as a minister...

It is slightly more difficult this time. In the past Netanyahu himself would take the position fo Minister above Litzman and give Litzman full authority over the ministry as Deputy Minister. This time Netanyahu cannot. When he was indicted for his alleged crimes the law forced him to give up all hsi ministerial positions (except for the Prime Minister position), so now Netanyahu cannot take the title of Housing Minister back, even if just in name. So he has to find another minister who is willing to add the title but also give Litzman all the authority. Technically, this minister is at risk for being blamed by history for whatever happens within the ministry, as he will always bear the title Minister of Housing, even though it will be Litzman making all the decisions and wielding all the power. This might be an impediment, but I expect it won't be too difficult to resolve.

I thought for a moment that this time he was serious. I now take back what I said about respecting him for putting his money where his mouth is. This is what we call a "combina" in Hebrew. He resigned to make a big deal then sneaks back in through the back door in a way that he can take all the credit and none of the blame for what he doesn't like. if he really had principles and if he really were serious, he would have left the government and stayed out, or else he could have saved us all this drama.... 

And he recently made such a dramatic statement of you will never hear the name Minister Litzman being called again - haha, so he is Deputy Minister Litzman instead. And even that is probably just temporary... We are going to rename him after Arnold Schwarzenegger's character in The Terminator series of movies who would say "I'll be back" ominously... Deputy Minister Yaakov I'll Be Back Litzman




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Sep 21, 2020

Litzman gone paves way for Leifer to be gone

This morning the court in Jerusalem, adjudicated by [haredi] Judge Chana Miriam Lomp, decided that Malka Leifer is fit to stand trial and to be extradited and the relevant ministries can take the necessary steps for this process.

This is not the final word. Leifer still has appeals available to her. She will appeal this ruling. And should the Supreme Curt uphold the ruling, the Justice Minister still needs to decide and sign off on extradition orders, and that too can be appealed. And should the extradition happen after all that, the process will begin in Australia with trials and appeals and claims of being mentally unfit...

Ironically, or curiously, Yaakov Litzman just resigned from the government a week ago, and already the courts are ruling Leifer can be extradited... Sherlock Holmes would say "Coincidence? I think not!" But it likely is a coincidence, even though the timing is glaring. The tide had already turned a little while back and Litzman seemed to have lost his influence on these matters months ago, if not more. 




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Sep 13, 2020

Quote of the Day

I will no longer be a minister. The combination of words "Minister Yaakov Litzman" is finished.

  -- MK Yaakov Litzman (UTJ)




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Litzman puts his money where his mouth is

I am willing enough to criticize Minister Yaakov Litzman when I feels he deserves it, so I should also compliment him when he deserves.

If anybody in the government does, Litzman puts his money where his mouth is.

As he has threatened over the past couple of weeks, this morning Litzman threatened Netanyahu to leave the government should the government vote to approve the lockdown.

Not too many carry through on their promises and threats, but Litzman has in the past, so his threats aren't necessarily empty. He might be bluffing, as neither he nor anyone from UTJ has walked out on a government before for any reason other than chilul shabbos, but he might not be. Litzman has shown himself willing to leave on his own, so he might now too. He doesnt speak for the entire UTJ, but only for himself, but one cannot just dismiss what he is threatening.

Not only that, he is assuring Degel that they will not lose because of him. If Litzman resigns form the government, he goes back to Knesset. Because of the Norwegian Law, MK ELiyahu Baruchi would lose his spot, which he got when Litzman became a minister. Baruchi is from the Degel faction, so an Agudah minister resigning would hurt Degel as well. Litzman told Degel that if he resigns, MK Eliyahu Chassid, from the Agudah faction, will as well, so Baruchi will be moved up in the list and will remain an MK.

Good for Litzman. I can respect that. Not only is he sacrificing his own guy (Hassid) instead of Degel's, but he is really sacrificing him. If Hassid resigns, he is off the list If Litzman should work things out after to become a minister again (as he has also done in the past), the next person in the list (I dont know who that is) gets Litzmans spot, and not Hassid. As far as I know, if Hassid resigns now, he is gone, so Litzman is sacrificing a lot to push his agenda.

UPDATE: 

the above was written before Litzman actually resigned. Immediately before the government meeting began, Litzman officially announced his resignation.

Nothing changes from what I wrote above.

The only thing that is worth adding is that he resigned from his ministerial position but not form the coalition. Meaning he is setting himself up for a return like last time, and probably just wants to be able to say he was not a part of the decision - not being a member of the government is even more distance than voting against the decision.

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Sep 10, 2020

Quote of the Day

They are making the lockdown intentionally on Rosh Hashana and during the holidays. it is not nice that they want to make the lockdown specifically during the holidays...  
They promised us that they would make arrangements for davening in shuls during the holiday, but they lied to us.

  -- Minister Yaakov Litzman

1. Litzman voted against the lockdown proposals. Deri voted in favor
2. Again, Litzman also locked us down during the holidays (Pesach) when he was Health Minister. The logic is that this is a time when people get together for large extended family meals and events. There is logic to it. When he did it it made sense and was ok, but now it is bad because it is intentionally during the holidays? Yes, it is intentionally during the holidays. It is because of the holidays.
3. Things change every day or two. There is still over a week to Rosh Hashana. Instead of just complaining, Litzman should work on a plan to work something out while keeping people safe. Litzman is part of the Corona Cabinet, after insisting on being included, so he should put together a plan that he thinks can get more people in shul while keeping them safe.





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Sep 3, 2020

Quote of the Day

I was right when I warned over the past few weeks that the decision to inpose a lockdown is part of an orchestrated plan of some of the authorities to impose a fulllockdown during the holidays and to close the shuls during Rosh Hashana, Yom Kippur and Sukkos.

  -- Minister Yaakov Litzman

Litzman is a funny guy. As if he is the only one who saw a lockdown coming. I was right! I told you so!
And besides, Litzman himself demanded just last week that if a lockdown is possible for the holidays they should do the lockdown now instead in an attempt to avoid it during the holidays. So now he is upset they are doing it now?




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