Showing posts with label RBS D. Show all posts
Showing posts with label RBS D. Show all posts

Jul 9, 2025

Interesting Psak: sensors and safety features

In light of some recent tragedies in Bet Shemesh in which young children playing in the parking lots of their buildings were hit and injured/killed by cars driving through (backing up), some rabbis of the local communities have come out issuing an interesting psak..

To note, kids commonly ignore cars and drivers and continue to ride their bikes and scooters and bimbas weaving in and out and around the cars trying to carefully maneuver through the lot. Granted, the driver has to always be extra cautious, but the kids are way too flippant about the dangers. The parking lots are made for cars but are also used as playgrounds by the children of the adjacent buildings and this causes an inherent danger. As I once heard said, pedestrians may generally have the right of way but it doesn't help much if they dont want to spend months recuperating from an injury or have to undergo operations and needless to say if killed.

That being said, back to the psak, so a couple rabbonim got together and issued a psak saying drivers need to drive slowly and carefully paying attention to their surroundings and residents and children and parents of children need to be careful and recognize that the parking lot is dangerous and kids should not be there playing unsupervised. Drivers should make sure to install in their cars whatever safety features and sensors that are available and can even pay for them with maaser money.







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Sep 10, 2023

this happened in an Orthodox shul!

A weird incident happened recently in the Haredi neighborhood of RBS D. 

To introduce this I will say that I had heard RBS D was a super Haredi neighborhood, relatively extreme (with some more extreme elements), and that has been my preconceived impression of RBS D, until I actually went there several times and even more so until more recently as I started to hear about some of the communities out there. Sure enough, there are definitely some more mainstream Haredi communities and some extremists elements, but there are also some (and I dont know how many or how much of a percentage they are) of Haredim who call themselves "Modern Haredim" or "Young Haredim" - these are Haredim who seem to not feel bound by the old Haredi style and are somewhat forging their own paths and styles within the Haredi community.

That being said...

An incident recently happened at a shul in RBS D that extended what would likely have been the normal reach of that shul. They had to have known it would.

Briefly, what happened is that a sefer torah was donated to the shul. When they first used it, I think it was at the hachnasat sefer torah near the end of the ceremony, they allowed a woman, someone seemingly connected to the donation of the Torah (I dont know if she was the donor herself or some sort of representative of the donor), to do the glila of the torah - the rolling and tying it closed.

They claimed to have support of one of the local rabbonim, Rav Elimelech Kornfeld, who is also the rav of the shul in some capacity. I have heard that when the criticism started coming in he denied it he had given permission.

So the reason I have not posted about this until now is because until the other day I had not found the actual video of the incident. I had only seen people reference it. I didnt know what actually happened. It was weird, it was unusual and I didnt know what people were exaggerating or being accurate about or whatnot. But I found the original clip the other day and it was posted by the leadership of the shul it happened in on the X (formerly known as Twitter) platform. Here it is:



now, I am totally not familiar with this. To me it seemed strange. After I first heard about I tried to find out what happened and I found bits of commentary about it and it seems that halachically there is actually basis for it with some old sources permitting it. That being said I have never seen this happen (in an Orthodox shul) and I would put money down that until now almost none of you reading this will have ever seen this happen until now. So even knowing it is theoretically possible and maybe was occasionally allowed hundreds of years ago, though I have not heard of records of it actually being a regular thing, it still seems strange. That being said, I am all for change that is acceptable within the halachic parameters.

I should note that Rav Moshe Shternbuch, one of the heads of the Eida Hachareidis and a rosh yeshiva in Bet Shemesh and also rav of a community in RBS D, came out, I guess unsurprisingly, against this incident and criticized them strongly, calling them a community that had roots in the Haredi community (ie they are no longer Haredi).

I don't know exactly what is what but I am think my original impression was way off base and RBS D isnt quite as mainstream or extreme as I thought...


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Aug 30, 2023

RBS D: The neighborhood of the future for young Haredim (video)








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Jun 12, 2023

Tweet of the Day




Translation:
From Meitav Hachadashot Bet Shemesh:
With ball in hand and a lot of ambition yesterday tens of Haredi women residents of RBS S gathered to play basketball for the first time in the new sports field in the neighborhood. Women can play basketball without violating the boundaries of halacha, they said resolutely. We call on every person who is interested in playing basketball to join us.


good for them. Dont let the thugs set the tone... I am increasingly getting the impression that RBS D is not nearly as extreme Haredi as it was made out to be and like in some other places in Bet Shemesh there just a small number of noisy extremist thugs who try to control everyone else and set their tones that make a bad impression...


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Apr 20, 2023

free cholent in RBS D!

Kikar is reporting on an interesting battle taking place right now in RBS D, a similar battle to one that has taken place in many cities and neighborhoods with mixed populations - basically a power struggle for controlling the tone of the neighborhood or city.

There is a bakery in RBS D, a branch of the Chalat Habayit chain (great bakery, by the way) on the main strip called HaAmoraim Blvd (Sderot Haamoraim). Besides for selling bread, pitas, rogelach, burekas, and the like, Chalat Habayit, like most similar bakeries also sells coffee, sandwiches and some other light food options. They are certified as kosher by the hechsher of Rav Rubin, a well respected hechsher in the Haredi community. 

It seems the llocal extremists who make a lot of trouble around Bet Shemesh have taken a dislike to the fact that Chalat Habayit put out a few small tables for people to sit and drink their coffee or eat a danish. They claim this will destroy their neighborhood and turn the street into a midrachov, something akin to Ben Yehuda in Jerusalem.

Sderat HaAmoraim is a long street of apartment buildings with shops of all types all along the street at the street level of the buildings. Anyone going to that area to shop, or anyone local needing to do their shopping, is going to the various stores on that street, in addition to health clinics and banks. 

The fights with the extremists (who may or may not even live in that neighborhood) have gone on for the past year fairly regularly over different issues. It seems to be back now, with a step up, and neither side seems to be willing to back down.

I will note, so the readers who might nto be familiar with it, RBS D is an entirely Haredi neighborhood, but regular Haredi norms are not good enough for the extremists. This isnt about Haredim fighting the secular who might drive on Shabbos or anything like that. This is extremists fighting the residents of a Haredi, yeshivish and hassidish, neighborhood. 

So, it seems the extremists have pressured the Rubin hechsher to force the owner of the bakery to remove the tables or else lose its hechsher. How they influenced the Rubin hechsher is a curiosity because they dont eat Rubin anyway (the communities of extremists only eat Eida), so they couldnt exactly threaten them with a ban, but they somehow did and Rubin let the bakery know to remove the tables or lose the hechsher. This is not general Rubin policy, as many other restaurants elsewhere with Rubin have tables, including other branches of this bakery, so making this threat was specifically for this location because of the pressure of the thugs.

Residents will be holding a protest, of sorts, outside the bakery this evening against the thugs. At around 8pm, an anonymous donor who has sponsored several pots of cholent will have bowls of cholent distributed to protestors. They say that this is to mimic so to speak the judicial reform protest in Bnei Braq in which food was distributed because the thugs like the reform protesters dont really want solutions, just control. Even after the tables were taken in the thugs continue to make trouble. 

They complain that the municipality and the police do not do anything to solve this. Truth is, they rarely ever have. Unless police get attacked by the thugs, the police generally leave them alone and are happy to just keep them contained, letting the locals be victims.

Basically, free cholent in BS D tonight!


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Mar 6, 2023

Interesting Psak: Purim in Bet Shemesh

Every year the debate arises in Bet Shemesh as to which day of Purim should be celebrated. Bet Shemesh always celebrated on the 14th of Adar, like most cities, because it is an unwalled city. There have always been some people who felt that in Bet Shemesh Purim should be celebrated on the 15th as well, like a walled city, due to its proximity to the ancient remains of Bet Shemesh and Yarmouth that was walled. These opinions have somewhat increased over the years with the expansion of the new neighborhoods of Bet Shemesh with RBS Gimmel and Daled (C and D) actually sitting on and adjacent to the ancient walled city of Tel Yarmouth.

According to Kikar, a group of avreichim asked the posek Rav Shlomo Zafrani to investigate the matter and come to a decision.

Rav Zafrani investigated the mater and looked over the ancient remains and the topography and decidedto pasken that in Bet Shemesh, including in Gimmel and Daled neighborhoods, Purim should continue to be celebrated on the 14th of Adar and not at all on the `5th, not even from a position of uncertainty.

If they are already going to bring such a decisive psak on the matter after going out and investigating it would be nice for them to at least summarize his reasoning.



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Sep 15, 2022

Ramat Bet Shemesh Dalet Israel (RBSD): Real estate game changer for English speaking communities (video)

I have seen his car driving around town...





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May 12, 2022

Takanos of RBS Hei

Everybody has their preferences for the type of community they want to live in. Some people want a more diverse community, some want a more tolerant community, some want a more religious community, some a less religious community, some a Haredi community, some a Dati Leumi community, some a secular community, some want more yeshivas, some want more parks, come want more community centers and basketball courts or soccer pitches, some want more shuls and schools, some want more Hassidic, some want mroe Litvishe, some more Sefardic, some more Ashkenazic, some want a more "anglo" community, some a less anglo and more Israeli community, etc. 

I do not begrudge anyone their personal preferences of what type of community they want to live in.

That being said, if I want to live in a specific type of community I will seek out such a community and try my best to move there and settle in. I do not think it is legitimate to move into a community that is not as preferred and then try to use discriminatory practices and bullying methods to keep others out so it will hopefully become the community I want.

While we saw the other day a call to residents in RBS D to continue building the community there as a heimishe community and not rent or sell to "others" that was a personal call made by an anonymous person. Someone like that can be marginalized or ignored. What is one person going to do? He might garner up support for his plan but at this point he is just one person. Reject him but he can basically be ignored.

RBS E/H/5/Hei - aka RBS Hei - was built as a more diverse community. The plans, prepared by then-Mayor Moshe Abutbol, was to plan and market Hei to 3 different sectors, 1/3 Haredi, 1/3 Dati and 1/3 Secular. Anyone buying or renting and moving to RBS Hei knows in advance that this neighborhood was designed to be a more diverse neighborhood. Over time market forces might lock that down in some way with some moving out and others moving in and it turning to develop some more specific character, but in the early stages it is meant to be a diverse community.

There is now a call by a group of Haredi rabbonim and activists to push out the non-Haredi sector and only allow Haredim to rent or buy apartments in Hei. They have put together a set of "takanos" for RBS Hei....

That is different than the guy in RBS D - that was an individual, a nobody. This is a call out, with a published letter signed, by a slew of local rabbonim. This is not a private individual stating his opinion, but it is community leadership, it is the "system", it is official.




They can do what they want, no matter how wrong it is. but if and when calls anywhere in the country get put out to not sell in a certain area to Haredim, they are the first to scream discrimination and call people anti-Haredi. And it used to happen in the earlier days of Bet Shemesh when the newer neighborhoods just started being built and Haredi communities started being developed here and some even started spreading out and buying in older areas that had a secular or dati atmosphere. There were calls to not let them buy in those areas, and they were rejected but they were also condemned, and the Haredi communities and leadership, even at the national level, screamed bloody murder at such calls. I would like to see a reporter take such a poster to Moshe Gafni or Yaakov Litzman or Aryeh Deri and ask them what they think about it. I would like to see them reject such behavior and use the Degel or Aguda or Shas resources to put an end to it. 







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May 8, 2022

open racism in RBS D

This ad was run in local Bet Shemesh periodicals..





While it is written in a mix of Yiddish and Hebrew (mostly Yiddish), I was able to get the gist of it, and then got some assistance form Google translate to lock it down further. And some local news media translated it broadly as well

This racist and hypocritical ad really did not need to be mentioned or commented on. It is not the work of any official organization nor city or state policy - just some guy, or some group of guys, who are racists and hypocrites. the world is full of them and I dont need to comment, and I usually dont, on each person's personal ideas. This though is somewhat entertaining, somewhat sad, and interesting that they felt strongly enough about it that they paid money to take out a full page advertisement to promote the idea.

The text is regarding the holy shtetl of Rama Daled, aka RBS D, which has a significant community of Chassidim. Basically the author thinks it is so lovely that the community of RBS D is a holy shtetl with more and more chassidic institutions opening and more and more chassidishe families moving in. he is worried about the future and what might happen to the atmosphere if other types of people are allowed to move in. He calls upon the landlords and homeowners to not rent or sell apartments to other people who are not chassidishe. RBS D, he says, should be a continuation of RBS B and the Kirya Hachareidit. 

It is rare to see such open and blatant racism nowadays. At least most people try to couch it in vagueness and misdirections....

Ahhh.... and if people from Bet Shemesh were saying only sell or rent to people like us so the atmosphere of the city doesnt change, that would go over really well. Oh wait, that happened. And it didnt go over well at all. Some people still think they have the right to decide who can live near them and who cannot while nobody else has that same right. And the truth is nobody has that right - at least not in an open city. You want to live in a shtetl, go live in a gated community that runs an acceptance committee....



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Mar 15, 2022

Interesting Psak: Purim on the 14th only

A lot has been written about celebrating Purim in Bet Shemesh in the coming days due to the proximity of new neighborhoods to the ancient Yarmuth ruins. 

Some rabbbonim have publicly paskened hat Bet Shemesh might have the status of a walled city and while we continue to celebrate on the 14th of Adar, this year on Wednesday night and Thursday, but we should also celebrate due to significant uncertainty on the 15th of Adar like a walled city by reading the megilla again and performing the other basic mitzvos on Thursday night and Friday.

Other rabbonim have said that in Bet Shemesh we only celebrate on the 14th and not the 15th. The uncertainty about Yermuth is questionable enough that we do not need to be concerned.

Both have sources and valid reasons for their positions.

Rabbi Yaakov Haber, rav of KSY (Kehillat Shivtei Yeshurun) in RBS A, asked noted posek Rav Asher Weiss his psak on the matter. I would note that I heard Rav Haber last Shabbos say that there is no need to celebrate on the 15th at all in Bet Shemesh and he quoted form the Mishna Brura as his source for his decision.

Rav Asher Weiss wrote a psak in return saying that there is no need to read the megilla on the 15th in Bet Shemesh. In his letter (below) he details all the doubts and questions involved when combined leave significant reason to not bother with the 15th and not to even be considered a possibility.
source: Kikar

התשובה המלאה של הגר"א וייס



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Mar 6, 2022

Interesting Psak: Purim in RBS D

There has been some talk for a long time about questions regarding which day should be celebrated as Purim in Bet Shemesh, or in certain parts of Bet Shemesh, due to its proximity to ancient walled towns. While Bet Shemesh celebrates Purim on the 14th, like most of the world, some say it should also, at least msafek, do the mitzvot of Purim on the 15th like Jerusalem and other walled towns, due to proximity to the ruins of Yarmuth, and possibly also due to the proximity to the ancient Tel Bet Shemesh.

With the influx of residents into the new neighborhood of RBS D, the question was raised a level as RBS D is actually right next to the Yarmuth ruins. It is no longer nearby but still far enough away that one could discount it - now it is right there. The RBS D neighborhood is right next to the Yarmuth ruins. Some even call the neighborhood - Givat Yarmuth.

Residents brought Rav Moshe Bransdorfer in to weigh in on the matter. Rav Bransdorfer is a posek in Jerusalem associated with Toldos Ahron and the Eida Hacareidis. Rav Bransdorfer looked at the relevant information and the nearby ruins and added his opinion to that of several others that residents of RBS D should fulfill the mitzvot of Purim on the 15th of adar in addition to celebrating ont he 14th. While he sounded pretty definite, he only instructed the residents of RBS D to do so and did not pasken accordingly for the entire Bet Shemesh, nor did he say it is an absolute obligation, but one should out of a strong safek.
source: Kikar

I wouild note that this is not really new, though perhaps with the populating of RBS D the logic has gotten stronger and more definite. I know individuals who have been doing this for many years in RBS A and in Bet Shemeh and have heard of some others. They believe this is the correct approach but will not rule so publicly and demand it of the public.





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Feb 27, 2019

PSA: the differences between RBS D and E

I am not sure what to add about this, so I am just going to post it as a public service announcement..

Yesterday it became known that a number of apartments in the "Mechir LaMishtaken" lottery for RBS E (Hei), aka Neve Shamir, were won by Haredi residents. In light of that, Mayor Aliza Bloch released a statement saying that anybody buying apartments in RBS Hei should know in advance that the buildings and the neighborhood will be built according to the plans designing it for the general public - tall buildings, no sukka porches, less space for shuls and more for other community structures. Anybody buying there should know this in advance and not complain later.

And, Bloch continued, RBS D (Daled) is designed for the religious and Haredi communities and anybody buying there should take that fact into account.

Anybody, each person, can choose where they want to live, but everyone should take into account the plans for the designs of the various neighborhoods and decide where they want to live.

sources: Shemeshnet and Behadrei



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Nov 27, 2018

Mayor Aliza Bloch changes agreements for future Bet Shemesh neighborhood construction

Mayor of Bet Shemesh Aliza Bloch is putting together her coalition (I have no information about the progress on this other than the little bit that has been leaked to the press - such as it looks like Shas and Agudat Yisrael will be in the coalition, along with Likud, Habayit Hayehudi and Bloch's party, while Degel Hatorah might be out - nothing is final or real until the final coalition is actually announced and then even after that things can change - as they aren't yet getting the jobs or commitments they are demanding).

In the meantime, there is already some news of dramatic changes being made by Bloch in Bet Shemesh.

Bloch announced that in her meetings yesterday in the Knesset with Finance Minister Moshe Kahlon and the Minister of Housing (Yoav Galant of Kulanu), among others, it was decided and agreed upon that changes would be made in the agreement with Bet Shemesh for future construction that the Sheves Law will not be applied. The Attorney General of Bet Shemesh, Miki Gastwirth, has already informed kablanim and developers of this change.

The Sheves Law allows kablanim to take the originally approved plans for a neighborhood and using the same meterage make changes by building smaller apartments and up to 30% more of them, without going through bureaucracy and needing to obtain new permits and submitting new plans. Meaning, for the sake of an example, if initial approved plans allowed for buildings of 10 apartments each being 100 square meters, the kablanim using the Sheves Law can build 13 apartments of 77 square meters each (or whatever the actual numbers are).

The Sheves Law gives the kablanim the ability to make more money off the same meterage, by selling more smaller apartments, thus giving them encouragement and more reason to build there. The entire RBS D is planned to be built like this.

With Bloch announcing that RBS D will not have the Sheves Law applied to it, people are in a tizzy. They think this will put a stop to future construction of Haredi neighborhoods, as the kablanim will decide it isn't worth building in Bet Shemesh without the Sheves law. Bloch is making significant changes fast.

I heard Bloch on the radio and she explained that in RBS C (aka Gimmel), for example, many [Haredi] residents are complaining that the neighborhood was built with many people stuffed into small areas, and inadequate infrastructure. She was elected to change that. Instead of building future neighborhoods for more people than approved with less than adequate infrastructure, they will build, and RBS D will still be built for the Haredi community, for the right amount of people for the infrastructure, and the infrastructure (eg shuls, mikvaot, yeshivas, parks, etc) will be built while the neighborhood is being built rather than years after residents move in - as what happened in RBS C (Gimmel).

With the apartments being built to the sizes they were originally planned, that will mean slightly larger apartments at slightly higher prices. That will likely mean not as many newly married young couples, while purchasers will likely be a little bit older, with kids already, and with income and a slightly higher socioeconomic status.

Degel Hatorah is very upset at this and is threatening to thwart the plans to make this change, as such a change must be approved by the City Council. The thing is, even if Degel stays out of the coalition for now, as it looks like might happen, if Shas and Agudat Yisrael join the coalition Degel won't have the blocking majority they were hoping for and this change should get approved easily.

I don't know if this change is good or bad overall. I don't understand the logic of the Sheves Law in the first place. it seems to be a convenient way to pull a fast one on people, planning a neighborhood to look like x and then letting the kablanim change it to y so they can profit a little more. The Sheves Law looks bad to me, but I don't know enough about it. It does seem to me that building for the right amount of people based on local infrastructure seems like a good idea rather than crowding people in with inadequate resources and letting them complain a few years later. The other option would be to extend the Sheves law and have it say that if the kablan increases the numbers of apartments, the infrastructure must be increased proportionally, but then there go their extra profits, so it might still not be attractive...




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Nov 13, 2013

New neighborhood planned in RBS for the non-Haredi community

According to this report on Bechadrei, the Regional Planning and Construction Board made changes to the plans for one section of RBS D and has filed it and made it available for public opposition.

The plan is for 1200 apartments in Southwest Bet Shemesh. The main change is that the plans will include some very tall buildings - some of them as tall as 12 story buildings, thus making it more compatible for the non-haredi community than for the Haredi community.

It is generally thought that Haredim avoid buying in high-rise buildings because they try to avoid using "Shabbos elevators" and do not want to have to walk up so many flights of stairs. This is why the other neighborhoods of RBS C, D and E have been planned with buildings that are maximum 5 stories tall.

The plans include a section for commerce, business, public buildings, schools, medical center, gas station, a neighborhood park and a large park.

I do not know how this will affect the opposition to the construction plans of new neighborhoods. Will they still be opposed as being built only for Haredim? This might not affect the complaints coming from the environmentalists, but those from the social perspective might lose their main argument. I hope and expect that community leaders in Bet Shemesh will work to put together buyers groups and try to attract young couples and families to buy in this new neighborhood, if it will be approved.




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Jul 23, 2013

a palace of King David discovered outside of RBS

Archaeologists have announced that they have discovered remnants of the palace of King David in the archaeological site called Qayifa located in the Elah Valley, just outside of Bet Shemesh.

Archaeologists from the Hebrew University and Antiquities Authority have announced that the remnants of the palace show that the palace was located in a strategic spot. Based on the size, the palace would have overlooked the town of Gat and the ares in which the Philistines resided. Looking west the palace would have view of the coastal region, and that extends eastwards and southwards all the way to Jerusalem and Hebron.

In the ongoing debate among a variety of historians and archaeologists about the actual status of King David and his reign, this find might resolve matters. Two buildings were discovered in the ruins - one has been identified as King David's palace, and the second identified as a huge royal storage house. They are saying that this is clear proof of the existence of David's kingdom and that it knew to establish power centers in strategic locations. Qayifa was destroyed in the battles with the Philistines at about 980 BC.

The timing of this discovery was right for the protests against construction in the hills outside RBS. While the regional committee found a way to speed up the hearings in an unprecedented way, this new find can, and already is, be used as another reason to alter the original plans - now Qayifa is not just the ruins of a village, but has major historical significance.


(source and more details of what was discovered can be found at NRG)





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Jun 24, 2013

Headline of the Day

Residents of Elah Valley: We will not allow Holyland 2 to happen here


  -- NRG

According to various reports in the various news outlets, between 120 and 150 residents of the Elah Valley towns and Bet Shemesh showed up outside the office of Minister of Interior Gideon Saar today to protest the planned construction in the mountains of the Elah Valley, in what is to become RBS D and RBS E.

The main statement of the protesters was that the Elah Valley, where David fought against Goliath, is a unique region in the State of Israel, and in an arbitrary decision of the previous Minister of Interior, it is going to become a real estate monstrosity. The protesters say that these plans were approved without alternatives being investigated, as the law requires, and such massive construction will destroy the area. Alternatives should be researched, and a national park should be established in the area to protect the environment and archaeology.




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May 1, 2013

Sign protests against plans for RBS D2 this Friday!

In the past few days the following notices have been put up around Bet Shemesh (and RBS) (click image to enlarge):

It is a statement of the plans for planning of the new neighborhood of RBS D2 and an announcement of the legal period of time for filing objections.

If you look around Bet Shemesh and RBS, you can see clearly that City Hall has a very difficult time administering the city at acceptable levels with the current level of population. The streets are dirty. The roads are filled with potholes. More and more schools are cropping up in caravans and temporary structures rather than in school buildings, Tipat Chalav had to fire their secretary due to city cutbacks and it is now difficult to get appointments for your childs vaccinations and well-care, etc..

There are a lot of reasons one can oppose the new neighborhoods plans. I am not an expert in many of the issues involved, such as population density, type of construction, adequate business areas being designated, road design, green areas, parks, school buildings, etc. though they are all important issues and there are people dealing with them specifically. In my mind, as stated above, just look around.

The one thing the Iryah of Bet Shemesh has done well in recent years is pass the planning of new neighborhoods and build. In my opinion, the reason to oppose the new neighborhoods is on a temporary basis alone. The Iryah has moved so fast, there is no way it will be able to keep up with the demands of services required, neither for the new residents of said neighborhoods nor for the old residents of Bet Shemesh.

Just look around and see that the city has already not been able to keep up with basic needs of services of its residents. Slow down, catch up, improve city infrastructure, makes city services more efficient, get the budgets on track with the needs of the city, and then worry about new neighborhoods in 6 months or next year or however long it takes. It will be nice to have 15-000-20,000 new neighbors, but the city should first catch up with its current obligations.

There are people arranging forms for filing protests. Someone should be outside of Best Market on Dolev, as well as in other areas around Bet Shemesh, this Friday, and at other times, with forms for signatures. If you agree, if any of the issues make you concerned with the growth unmatched by the ability to render services, make sure you find a few minutes and sign the form.




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Jul 4, 2012

Lipman Responds About RBS D and Appeals


A Guest Post by Rabbi Dov Lipman in response to RBS D Approved

We have succeeded in fighting the plans for RBS Gimmel 2 for well over a year and will continue to do so in court. The moment the opportunity to submit objections to the current plans for RBS Dalet we will do the same.

Everyone must understand that the current plans will destroy the quality of life for residents of RBS Aleph - whether datiim, chareidim, or chilonim. They plan to build these neighborhoods without an adequate plan for transportation, education, and more. If you dislike sitting on highway 38 now, just wait for how bad it will be when thousands of new homes are built before the access roads are improved. If you think our schools are packed and in inadequate structures now, just wait for how bad it will be when thousands of houses are added before the educational infrastructure is in place. If you think the RBS Mercaz is crowded now, wait intil thousands of new citizens flood to make use of it because of inadequate commercial space.

My friends, the political leadership has led you to believe that this is some kind of "anti-Haredi" campaign. In actuality, we are the ones who truly care for Haredim and are trying to preserve the quality of life for Haredim as well. Our recent appeal led to changes in the plans which will improve the quality of life for any Haredim who move into RBS Gimmel 2. The political leadership has one goal in mind - build, build, build as quickly as possible so that was can be the national heroes for solving the Haredi housing crisis and advance ourselves - without thoughts to the quality of life of the city's current residents including Haredim and without thought to the quality of life to whoever moves to the new neighborhood includimg Haredim (ask the residents of Heftziba if they are satisfied with their lack of green space).

We will continue to fight all these plans and do whatever we can to stop these destructive plans from coming into fruition and invite all citizens from chilonim through chareidim to join our efforts.

Please e-mail me at ddlipman@gmail.com if you would like to join our efforts.


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Jul 3, 2012

Initial Plans For RBS D Approved

The financial newspaper Calcalist is reporting that the first detailed plans for the next neighborhoods of RBS to enter the stages of construction have been approved. The planning committee put aside plans for the construction of 1440 homes in the southern hills of Bet Shemesh spanning 780 dunams of land.

This is one of 6 sets of plans for what will be RBS D, and the planning takes into account the archaeological site of Tel Yarmout.

This is part of a larger plan in which the specific area will include 5300 apartments.

Mention is made that the activists trying to persuade leaders of the Likud (specifically the Prime Minister) to split Bet Shemesh still have not been able to make convincing arguments. In the meantime, mention is also made, haredi entrepreneurs and purchase groups are looking to buy up large tracts of the area to sell to their groups of followers.

The juxtaposition of the two is telling, and it seems this is what has happened all along. Opponents fight the plans, while the haredim make plans to buy the area out as much as possible. What ends up happening, so far at least, is that the oppositions have been rejected (while requiring slight alterations of plans) while the haredim ended up buying significant portions. There was a late notice in the haredi paper Chadash last week that the latest appeals regarding Gimmel 2 have now been rejected. The oppositions have been going nowhere.

Those who oppose the neighborhoods due to the largely haredi population expected to move in might do better work if they tried to buy sections of the neighborhoods to sell to their groups, instead of continuing to try fighting a losing battle. I expect though we will just continue to see more appeals and opposition that will end up being rejected and succeed in doing nothing more than causing a delay of a few months.

Eli Yshai, Minister of Interior, announced that "the plan will create a significant increase in housing available to the broad public, and protected housing, in light of the severe shortage of housing in Israel. I intend to continue and advance plans for construction that will solve the housing crisis for all the citizens of Israel."


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