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Jul 8, 2025
Messianism in the IDF
In recent days and weeks, and even going back many months in some capacity, there has been [increasing] criticism from the Left as to the increasing amount of "messianism" (whatever that is exactly, but it generally refers to DL and Haredi soldiers who go into battle with a religious spirit) appearing to operate among the soldiers of the IDF.
You cant demand that we draft haredim and others and then complain that now the army is filling up with Messianics (whatever that means)... if you dont want "messianics" in the army, and it is the DL and Haredim who you consider "messianics" then you should just exempt them all and stop fighting to draft them. Keep them out of the army and keep the army "pure" from messianism...
why would you expect them to no longer be "messianic", whatever that means, just because they have now been drafted to the IDF? I would even suggest that the army is the best place for messianism to flourish rather than to be quashed...
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One of the positive and negative purposes of a universal draft was to create a society where everyone learned about each other and to cooperate with each other. In the early days of the State people were coming from all corners of globe and there was a need to homogenize society quickly so it could work together. That's the positive side and I support that. The negative is that the homogeneous society that the government and army wanted to produce was a secular, leftist Ashkenazic one so the army was tasked with taking all those multicultural people and converting them.
ReplyDeleteThe secular Left, especially the kibbutzniks, have always seen the army as their private property. They've always had resentment to how the Dati Leumi flocked to serve with enthusiasm and thought they too could have a say in how the army is run. So yes, this observation of yours is consistent. They sure want all the religious to enlist but they want them to cut off their peyos and start eating bacon on Shabbos by the time they're released. The idea that they'd stay in the army and also stay religious isn't something they favour.
is there a difference between eating bacon on Shabbos vs eating bacon during the week? :-) lol
DeleteIf it's freshly cooked, yes.
DeleteContrary to what the term means in America, to the Israeli left, "Messianics" means "anyone who believes in the coming of Mashiah". To that, I say that the army should include only "Messianics" and kick everyone else out.
ReplyDeleteMy understanding is that in Israel it means that if we forcibly kick out all the Arabs from Yesh"a and blow up the Dome of the Rock, the Moshiach will come.
DeleteHerzl himself was inspired by messianism. Check out the story of the messianic dream he had back when he was 12.
ReplyDelete"Messianics" is a code word for "Religious Zionists," plain and simple. (Or, at best, "Religious Zionists I don't like.") Bear that in mind whenever you see the word. It doesn't include charedim and has nothing to do with actual beliefs. Lapid and Lieberman use it this way all the time.
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