Showing posts with label Women of the Wall. Show all posts
Showing posts with label Women of the Wall. Show all posts

Feb 9, 2023

tzniyus at the Kotel

Today's big hullabaloo is that MK Aryeh Deri (Shas) is pushing forward the law proposal to mandate modesty at the Kotel, along with regulating prayer services. According to Deri's law proposal, anyone at the Kotel not dressed modestly will be arrested with the punishment of up to 6 months in prison. Same for wearing tefillin or tallis in the womens section and for taking a Torah scroll into the women's section or conducting mixed services in the area. Additionally, no speeches, signs, musical instruments or playng music at the Kotel, all punishable by up to 6 months in prison.

I had my say about this two weeks ago when the idea was just floated, but now MK Deri has decided to advance this law and supposedly, according to news reports, has agreement for support among all coalition members, even ones who spoke out against it, at least to pass its first reading. 

It is going to be laws like this that will at some point bring down the government. the extreme right or extreme religious members of the coalition are going to keep pushing crazy laws like this. At some point Netanyahu will say no. He'll probably freeze this one as well after the first passing. The Likud doesn't want it, Likud voters don't want it, and Netanyahu doesn't want it, but he is stuck between a rock and a hard place. Right now he has to give Deri this little victory, but at some point he wont be able to continue advancing these types of laws and at some point that will cause a coalition crisis.

The unofficial tzniyus police of Mea Shearim never worked out well for anyone. I wonder if this can turn out any differently even though it will be official. I would be curious what type of reaction this law, if it will pass, will cause among the people. Will there be some form of protest with so many choosing to stay away from the Kotel? Will we see the annual slichos during Elul with much smaller crowds of people with much less participation of the traditional and non-religious? Will we see a form of protest of thousands going tot he Kotel in attire that does not meet the laws of tzniyus -women wearing pants and short sleeves and the like and daring the police to arrest thousands of women? or will the people just accept it and behave accordingly? If someone does get arrested, say a woman for wearing slacks at the Kotel, will she be able to defend herself in court with her lawyer claiming that her rabbi says these pants are allowed for women, even if other rabbis say they cant be? Are we going to have secular judges deciding what Jewish law should and shouldn't include?

Is this entirely to be directed at women or will this be enforced against men as well - no shorts perhaps? shirts with no sleeves will get you arrested? Will this cause an uprising of the women, having a law passed just against them?








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Dec 18, 2022

move the Kotel menorah

Behadrei is reporting that the Women of the Wall have submitted a complaint about the menorah lighting ceremony at the Kotel

According to the report, their complaint is that the menorah lighting ceremony takes place every year on Chanukah in the mens section, lighting the menorah set up on a small platform there. Doing the lighting ceremony there, with public figures, excludes women from actively participating in the event.


In their complaint they say this excludes them and discriminates against them base don gender, in a public place managed by a representative of the State of Israel. It is especially egregious considering the fact that there is a very simple solution - putting the menorah for the ceremony out in the plaza outside the prayer area where both men and women can access it.

I would suggest the complaint actually be that the women cannot even see the ceremony because of the way the sections are set up with a high mechitza, but they complained about participation which has zero chance of succeeding




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May 30, 2022

are these anti-Haredi laws really coming down the pipeline?

Zeev Alperovitz of Merkaz Inyanim, a Haredi news media outfit not found on the Internet (that I know of), is reporting on an upcoming series of laws soon to be passed, or at least proposed. This series of laws is being seen as an anti-Haredi blitz of legislation, and MK Uri Maklev (UTJ) is supposedly working his connections to thwart them in advance from being raised and/or passed, campaigning quietly for support among religious and right wing coalition MKs.

I would note that I have yet to see any of this reported anywhere else at this point. So, I dont know if it is real, if it is fake and simply fear-mongering, or if it is fake and when it doesnt happen (because it was never going to) it will be to the praise of Maklev for thwarting it...

Anyways, as the report goes, the laws to be proposed and passed include; making it illegal to have gender-segregated events, making it illegal to protest against the Women of the Wall, and to require Haredi and Dati rabbis to officiate at the weddings of Reform couples.

I wait to see how they will define an event that cannot be gender segregated and what events can be gender-segregated. Is davening in shul an event that can or cant be segregated? Can a bar mitzva in a shul social hall be segregated or not? What about a wedding in a wedding hall? What about a private concert or a play? Will this be an end to women's retreats or will that be ok? shiurim for men and shiurim for women? This does not seem like it is going to be easy to define or enforce, except at maybe the "more obvious" extremes.

Next, making it illegal to protest against the Women of the Wall at the Kotel. How can this possibly go down in the democratic state of Israel? During the period of CoronaVirus lockdowns, while everyone was strictly locked in their homes, the one thing people were able to go out for - even before they allowed individual exercise and services in shul - was protests. The right to protest is sacrosanct. It has been upheld when all other rights were curtailed. People have the right to protest outside the homes of ministers and the Prime Minister, outside government buildings, outside schools and outside the homes of individuals with whom they disagree - but they wont be allowed to protest against the activities of the Women of the Wall? This does not make sense. I cant believe they would pass a law making protest illegal against this or against any specific group. The Left would participate in a law curtailing the right to protest, even if it is true that some in the Coalition might want such a law?

The last one is a bit confusing as well but more form a point of why is it necessary? Haredi and Dati rabbis would not be able to refuse to officiate at the wedding of a Reform couple. At first thought, Haredi and Dati rabbis should be officiating at the weddings of anyone who wants them. Rabbis, any rabbi of any stream, should be happy to be turned to by people who want him involved in their lives at some level. But, how often do Reform couples want a Haredi rabbi officiating their wedding that this is much of an issue? Further, I am a little confused because Israel has no civil marriage allowances and any such marriages are illegal, as are any marriages outside of the Rabbanut (except for Muslim and Christian marriages, though those require involvement of their official religious representatives). So if it is illegal for a Reform couple to be married by a civil servant or by their Reform rabbi (assuming the Reform rabbi is not certified for performing weddings by the Rabbanut), how can Dati or Haredi rabbis ever be allowed to turn people away - if they are the only allowed to perform Jewish weddings, they should never be allowed to reject anyone Jewish wanting to get married!

So, none of these really make sense, making me wonder if the report is even true and not just fear-mongering. But if it is true, I dont see how they can pass the first two laws, and I dont see how they cannot pass the third unless marriage is opened up to civil and other non-Rabbanut rabbis....






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Feb 3, 2022

go fight for prayer on Har Habayit

Yesterday, the 2nd day of Rosh Chodesh Adar 1, MK Rabbi Gilad Kariv joined the service at the kotel held by the Women of the Wall.

MK Yaakov Asher (UTJ) attacked Kariv (verbally) and said, among other things, "let's see if you have the courage to go with this group of provocative women up to Har Habayit and disturb there with your prayers.

While MK Yaakov Asher is not wrong - the women, and Kariv, fight for equal prayer rights at the Kotel despite it being probvocative and against what most of the people there want, yet they would not dare take the same stand on Har Habayit and support, and fight for, Jewish prayer there as it would upset the Muslims, I find it ironic and humorous to hear Asher encourage people to go to Har Habayit and pray when he is against that too.


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Jul 14, 2021

fighting over Ezrat Yisrael renewed

Interestingly, Kipa is reporting on an initiative by an organization called "The Joint headquarters for Guarding the Holiness of the Kotel".

The initiative is for people, during the Nine Days, to daven and learn in the area near the Kotel called Ezrat Yisrael - the area that was designated for egalitarian prayer with no mechitza.

Yeshivat Hakotel supports them or is involved with them, I guess, as they put out a flyer for this saying they will be having shiurim and davening there during the Nine Days, in an attempt to strengthen the hold on the Kotel when the deceptive government is selling out to the Reform movement. 

The purpose of this is to prevent the Reform and others from using it for mixed gender services.


The Women of the Wall, WoW, have called this a provocation, blah blah blah. 

1. In general it is always nice to have additional fighting during the Nine Days. This was so unnecessary to start with as Ezrat Yisrael is hardly even used anyway, so this was done just to pick a fight.

2. I don't know why WoW cares. They don't even want to use Ezrat Yisrael and continue to try to hold their services at the regular women's section of the Kotel. Because they were not given the administrative authority they were promised over the Ezrat Yisrael area, they have refused to use it. it does not sit empty but it supposedly is not all that busy, and especially with tourism down it has not been all that busy. So I don't know why this upsets that.

3. The common refrain when the WoW women show up for Rosh Chodesh services at the Kotel that they have their own area over there, so they are continuing just to use the Kotel to be provocative, etc. That argument goes away when the Orthodox groups then take over, control, and push out others from WoW.

4. WoW should be using this as an excuse, or justification, to use the Kotel, not as something to get upset over, as, like I mentioned above, they dont use it anyway.. 





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Feb 17, 2020

Women of the Wall open tefillin booth in Tel Aviv train station

Well, it actually happened. After an organization meant to help improve the efficiency of the trains commented critically, and then retracted, on the installation of a booth for putting on tefillin in a train station, Minister of Transportation Betzalel Smotritch criticized them and said anybody can set up such a booth in train stations and if there is any trouble he will help get it approved.

I must say, he kept his word.

Today the Women of the Wall decided to set up a tefillin booth in the central Tel Aviv train station, as they had said they would. They had requested a permit in advance, but Smotritch never responded. They decided to go ahead with it anyway, but moments later the station manager told them to shut it down and leave. They turn to the administration of Israel Railways and to Minister Smotritch and the decision was quickly reversed and they were allowed to stay with their booth and offer passerby to lay tefillin.



I think Minister Smotritch was right to allow it. He could not really stop it, especially after what he said last week. Not allowing them to man the booth, or woman the booth is perhaps more appropriate, would have turned this into a fight that would have ended up all over the media and probably in the Supreme Court. This is not the Kotel and is not a Haredi or religious stronghold that would be considered a provocation. I think he was right to just let it be and succeed or fail on its own merits and public interest.

Though, according to Srugim, Smotritch denies he gave them the permit to stay. He says he is too busy with solving the public transportation crises of Israel and dealing with the traffic jams to get involved in this. Despite his denial, UTJ (among others) criticized Smotritch for allowing the WOW women to install the booth.


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Feb 6, 2020

tefillin at the train station

A "flurry" of tweets, that could have turned into a fight, turned funny, and still could turn into a fight.

An organization called "Ba Rakevet" is dedicated to reporting (on twitter) information about issues with the trains in Israel in order to encourage improved service. They report on delays, technical failures, and all sorts of problems.

Yesterday they tweeted the following:



They say they looked into it and it is prohibited to set up a booth for putting on tefillin int eh train stations. They ask people to report any such booths they might come across.

Shortly after they put out another tweet saying they looked into it further and the station manager at that station had allowed the booth.

Regardless of the second tweet (I checked - based on the timeline the second tweet was well before the response), Minister of Transportation Betzalel Smotritch tweeted in response saying that he thought their role was to help improve the train service and not to deal in anti-semitism. Smotritch then clarified that as long as he is Minister of Transportation setting up booths for tefillin in train stations (and anywhere else) will be allowed and encouraged, and if you try and anyone makes trouble contact him and he'll take care of it.


So far so good.

Shortly after, the Women of the Wall followed up with their own tweet saying they are happy to see the minister committed to the mitzva of tefillin and making Judaism approachable to those who want it. They then announce that in light of that, they will soon be setting up booths in train stations (for women to put on tefillin) and will appreciate assistance form the minister in getting approval for the booths..


I have to appreciate the sharp response taking advantage of the opportunity given to them by Minister Smotritch!



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Aug 5, 2019

Ulpana documentary on Women For The Wall (video)







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May 6, 2019

are we seeing the beginning of the end of Women of the Wall?

Reports have it that the monthly service on Rosh Chodesh organized at the Kotel by the Women of the Wall group was very poorly attended today. Articles say they had less than 20 participants.

A number of religious/frum media outlets are speculating that this might be foretelling the end of the monthly provocations. They surmise that after the failed attempt to bring 1000 women for the services last month, they have pretty much given up and did not make a big thing out of it this time.

I do not know why the regular number of participants did not participate this time. Perhaps some are out of town after the holiday, or others did not because of the rockets, or maybe just general disinterest. Either way, this basically just validates what I, and others, have said should be done to deal with this - let the women pray and just ignore them, and the numbers will dwindle to be irrelevant if it does not cause it to stop altogether. They thrive on the attention being given to them and explicit opposition to them causes and exacerbates the conflict and brings more people out turning the Kotel into a circus on these days.

The articles I saw did not get a statement from the Women of the Wall people in response. On their Facebook page no mention is made of the small turnout and predictions of their demise. They say they are proud of the fact that no fighting was necessary and they were able to have and read from a full Torah scroll.

Basically, just continue ignoring them.





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Mar 5, 2019

showdown at the Kotel

The WOmen of the Wall have announced that in honor of the 30-year anniversary of them holding their monthly women's minyan at the Kotel, this Friday will be particularly special and their services will be made up of 1000 participating women. It will be so big they will use a sound system for the event.

They made an official request for the usage of a sound system. I am not sure what happened exactly as the article I read a few days ago said the Kotel Rabbi refused the request, but the Women of the Wall are still talking about the event with a sound system, so I am not sure what the status of that is.

Haredi leadership has just announced that they have obtained Rav Chaim Kanievsky's approval to send thousands of high school girls to the Kotel at 6:30 in the morning on Friday to oppose the chilul hashem with a grand kiddush hashem. In addition, they have planned services with participation of a couple thousand men to be accompanied by a sound system.

It will not be pretty at the Kotel this Friday, but if you are looking for some excitement, the showdown at the Kotel might be the place to be....

The truth is I am really curious to see if the Women of the Wall can really bring 1000 women, or even close to it, to participate in their services.




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Jan 28, 2019

Women of the Wall to open tefillin booth for women

As part of the international Jewish project called "International Lay Tefillin Day", also known as "World Wide Wrap Day", on Sunday February 3 2019, the Women of the Wall group has decided to participate and will set up a stand in downtown Jerusalem to offer female passerby, in addition to males, to lay tefillin. This will actually be their fourth year of this project.

Though the Jerusalem City Hall at first rejected the permit request from Women of the Wall, they have now approved it and WoW will move ahead with it.
sources: Jewish Press, Kipa

I admit that when I first heard the news blurb on the radio, I thought Women of the Wall will be opening a tefillin stand at the Kotel, offering female daveners to lay tefillin, "competing" with the Chabad stand on the mens side of the Kotel mechitza. I am a bit surprised that this is not the case and they will be opening a stand only in downtown Jerusalem...

It is surprising they got the permit from the new City Hall. Perhaps that is an indication that there will be little, or no, fighting over this and everyone will just let it pass quietly and uneventfully...



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Aug 12, 2018

banning WoW from blowing shofar at the Kotel

headlines like these bother me so much. If it happened anywhere else, everyone would be screaming anti-semitism and that it evokes memories of the British Mandate period andd of other difficult times in Jewish history.

Kikar has a report about the monthly Rosh Chodesh fighting at the Kotel between the Haredi community and the Women of the Wall members and supporters. Today seems to have been a little bit unique because the WoW people wanted to bring in shofars to blow, as per the custom during the month of Elul at the end of davening.

The event turned violent, as it often does, and someone (on WoW's side) was arrested for acting violently against young protesting the WoW prayer service. Because they were expected to bring in shofars for blowing, the lawyer representing those opposing WoW requested from Avichai Mandelblit, the Attorney General, to ban WoW from bringing and using shofars at the Kotel.

The article does not say if he acceded to the request and banned the shofars or not, but implies that the women were doing something wrong and against the rules.

Even if I think the approach used against WoW is wrong and counter-productive, I can at least understand the opposition to women wearing tefillin in public and reading from torahs when making a minyan. I do not get what is wrong with women blowing shofar. As far as I am aware, the Shulchan Aruch and poskim do not call it yohara or haughtiness, as by teifllin, and there is seemingly nothing halachically inappropriate or disturbing about  a woman blowing the shofar. Women are allowed to blow the shofar, especially for themselves and for other women, and according to many even for men. And, the blowing of the shofar now is custom, not obligation, so it is even much more minor of an issue than, say, on Rosh Hashana itself. So, Israelis trying to ban Jews from blowing shofar at the Kotel reminds me of the stories of the British arresting Jews for blowing shofar at the Kotel on Rosh Hashana and Yom Kippur, and I do not understand what the opposition to it is about. They should just continue to focus on opposing the torah reading and tallis/tefillin wearing which makes more sense.







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Jun 24, 2018

Quote of the Day

Korach was a Reform Jew. He was associated with the Women of the Wall. Really, he would have joined them. He is appropriate for the Women of the Wall, Korach is Women of the Wall.

  -- Rav Dovid Yosef, in his weekly shiur



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May 31, 2018

Chabad or Women of the Wall

In light of the recent tefillin incident in the airport in Israel in which a lady (turned out to be a professor of multi-cultural society studies) berated a Chabadnik for helping someone lay tefillin and also acted extremely childlishly and the overwhelming support offered by the public, both frum and not, for the Chabadnik as being in a public space and having the right to do what he did without bothering anybody, there is still what to consider.

A post in The Times of Israel blogs raised an interesting issue that should cause us all to take pause for a moment and consider our actions and responses. The post compared our reactions, the reactions of most people being the same, to this incident in which we all told her that it is a public space and she should mind her own business and they have just as much a right to be there and do their thing as she, and between our reactions to the fairly regular incidents at the Kotel of women, led by Women of the Wall, putting on tefillin and reading from the Torah and the reaction of Haredi people nearby and the reactions of people around the world who see the images.

When confronted with the Chabadnik putting tefillin on someone we said he is in a public space and has the right to do so, with a willing partner, and they should be left alone. Why is it that so many of us do not say the same thing regarding the Women of the Wall at the Kotel? They are putting on tefillin in a public space, everyone else should mind their own business - whether you like what they are doing or not/ Scream at them and whistle at them to disturb and harass them? What makes you, or us, any better than this childish professor in the airport?

I am open to hearing reasoned explanations as to what the differences are, as to why we can support the Chabadnik's rights but not the rights of Women of the Wall.


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Jan 15, 2018

Quote of the Day

What has to be done to satisfy you? For the Western Wall rabbi to personally present you with a Torah scroll?

  -- Chief Justice Sohlberg, to representatives of Women of the Wall at the Supreme Court hearing about the canceled Kotel arrangement


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Nov 14, 2017

Supreme Court puts Haredi women at the Kotel in focus

The Supreme Court issued a court order to the police, to the Rav of the Kotel and to the Western Wall heritage Foundation to respond within 30 days with an explanation as to why they allow the regular disturbances by the Haredi women at the Kotel to continue disturbing the prayer sessions of the Women of the Wall by the women's section of the northern plaza of the Kotel.

They must explain why legal action has not been taken against those who try to disturb their prayers and why the Haredi women who disturb using whistles and the like are not removed from the area.

Behadrei points out that this approach by the Supreme Court indicates the Court is taking a "problematic" stance by not recognizing the southern plaza, what has become known as the Reform Kotel, as a solution for the monthly prayer services of Women of the Wall.

Personally I do not see why the Supreme Court must accept that as the solution when the Haredi parties and the government cancelled the agreement offering that as the solution. They themselves do not recognize it as the solution, why should the Supreme Court recognize it? If the Supreme Court would impose that as the solution, the Haredi MKs would have just as much of a problem with it as they did before. The Haredi MKs and community want no official solution because in their eyes any official solution grants Women of the Wall, and the Reform by extension, some form of legitimacy. They prefer that there be no decision but Women of the Wall use the Reform Kotel in an unofficial capacity. The problem is it does not work like that. The Courts will not impose something unofficially. They knew this would happen when they canceled the original agreement, and they knew the Court would be amenable to the other side. The original approach has not worked and they will most likely end up with a worse situation than what the original agreement would have provided.


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Apr 27, 2017

Women of the Wall to "celebrate" Yom Haatzmaut on Rosh Chodesh

The Women of the Wall are expanding their activities. Sort of.

Until now they mainly focused on bringing a group to daven at the Kotel once a month on Rosh Chodesh. We all know what happened every month when the WoW people showed up.

Anat Hoffman, director of Women of the Wall, has announced that tomorrow's Rosh Chodesh Iyar services at the Kotel will be in the theme and focus of Yom Haatzmaut. They will say the Prayer for  the State of Israel and sing Hatikvah and wave many Israeli flags. They will be bringing 250 students from various army-prep schools.
source: INN

They should have announced an additional visit to the Kotel in addition to the monthly Rosh Chodesh visit. They should have announced a special prayer service for WoW to be held at the Kotel on Yom Haatzmaut. Going on Yom Haatzmaut might even attract less of a fight, as on Rosh Chodesh many people, especially in the Haredi community, go to daven at the Kotel, but Yom Haatzmaut is, at least for most Haredim, just another day and it does not necessarily draw the masses to the Kotel (unless they are called to go special to oppose WoW). The Women of the Wall might have been able to get away with a quiet service, and with potentially little opposition might have been able to accomplish praying how they want to pray.

But is that really what they want? Maybe they only want to go on Rosh Chodesh when it will be a bigger fight? Maybe they do want to go Yom Haatzmaut but can't draw enough people for a second visit.

I don't know. It just seems silly to me to focus Rosh Chodesh service son Yom Haatzmaut instead of having a special service on Yom Haatzmaut.

But, hey, if Barak Obama could have a Pesach seder weeks before Pesach, and Chanukah parties weeks before Chanukah, and if the Rabbanut can push Yom Haatzmaut off by a day and celebrate on 6 Iyar instead of 5 Iyar, then WoW can celebrate Yom Haatzmaut a few days early.





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Dec 5, 2016

when WoW met the WWE (video)

this past Thursday was Rosh Chodesh..and that means a return to the monthly fights at the Kotel...

in this episode, WoW meets up with the WWE...

Back in the 80s this would qualify for the women's division known as GLOW - the Glamorous WOMen of Wrestling. Now it is a wrestling division known as the Divas...




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Nov 3, 2016

Rabbi Rabinovitch speaks about the events at the Kotel yesterday with Women of the Wall (video)








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Jul 7, 2016

Picture of the Day Caption Contest

photo credit: Joel Katz

mine:
Two States for Two People
Good Fences Make Good Neighbors

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