Showing posts with label yeshiva. Show all posts
Showing posts with label yeshiva. Show all posts

Jan 15, 2023

Headlines Podcast: 1/14/23 – Shiur 403 – Does yeshiva prepare us for life-after-yeshiva? Should it? (audio)







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May 10, 2022

Dont Invite Just Netanyahu


The news is reporting that Yeshivat Merkaz Harav has decided to not invite Prime Minister Naftali Bennett to its annual Yom Yerushalayim celebrations, and is even considering inviting MK Benjamin Netanyahu, Head of the Opposition, in his place. 

Merkaz Harav has invited the Prime Minister to the Yom Yerushalayim celebrations for a long time. I dont know if they always did or only since Netanyahu has been Prime Minister. I tried finding information but couldnt really find anything solid. I know they invited Jerusalem mayors as well, and other politicians at times.

Even if they do not have to invite PM Bennett, I think it is a mistake not to, and it is definitely a mistake to invite the Head of Opposition without the Prime Minister. Meaning, if you are not going to invite the Prime Minister, dont invite Netanyahu either. Inviting Netanyahu and not Bennett turns the yeshiva too political and divisive and in the long run will likely be bad for the yeshiva and for Torah in general. Dont invite any politician is better than inviting just Netanyahu.

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May 19, 2021

does Torah protect or should the yeshivas be moved?

Just over a week ago when the tiktokifada began, Rav Chaim Kanievsky reportedly instructed the communities under his guidance in southern Israel to continue their [Torah] studies as normal, despite the increase in violence, both from the tiktokifada (though he probably did not call it that) and from the renewed barrage of rockets from Gaza.

Rav Chaim Kanievsky explained that where Torah is being learned, there is no concern for safety. Safety rules must be adhered to, and when air raid sirens are blared, everyone must take the necessary precautions for protection, but the schools and yeshivas should not close or relocate.

That report is from Ynet, so maybe they got it wrong, but Rav Kanievsky has a history of this opinion and it is consistent with what he has said in the past in other dangerous situations.

According to Behadrei, several days later Rav Kanievsky instructed his son in law, Rav Zelig Braverman, to relocate his yeshiva, Derech Emuna, from Lod to somewhere safer until the tiktokifada (again, Rav Kanievsky probably did not use this name) subsides, until the rage passes.

Upon Rav Kanievsky's advice, the yeshiva temporarily relocated to Hadera, waiting for the situation in Lod to calm down.

It seems like a contradiction in Rav Kanievsky's beliefs. I have a few possible solutions:

1. Less likely is that in the yeshiva Derech Emuna they are not learning so diligently, so they have less protection and thus need to relocate while other yeshivas do not. It just does not seem likely this came up or was discussed or is even the situation.

2. Perhaps the situation in Lod was so bad that the Torah could no longer be enough protection - either God was showing a moment of rage during which even Torah does not really protect, or maybe where danger is imminent and fairly definite and not just theoretical or possible the Torah does not protect. the danger of rockets down south earlier in the week was pretty definite, so it is difficult to make this distinction, but maybe that is what he felt.

3. Perhaps the boys were so scared that even though the Torah protects, they were possibly not learning well due to being afraid, or maybe the protection of the Torah versus the fear of the boys, it was determined to be worth moving the yeshiva just to calm the boys (and even the staff)

4. family connections. everyone else should stay put but son in law can move if necessary. This seems less likely. Rav Kanievsky does not come off as a "protexia" type person. He seems to say what he thinks, be it as it may.

Any other suggestions?











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Apr 29, 2021

the modern day King Solomon splitting of the baby

Ah, Ponevezh Yeshiva.

I don't know what you did to end up like this. 

Actually that reminds me that last week I saw an article about some Chabad activist who says he does know how Ponevezh ended up like this, and it is because in Ponevezh they publicly attacked and shamed the Lubavitcher Rebbe, so it is the one yeshiva where the boys treat the rosh yeshivas with no respect and throw yogurt at them. Is he right or wrong, I dont know - that is above my pay grade, but that is what he said. 

Over the past weeks the fighting in Ponevezh Yeshiva has heated up again and intensified. Videos were seen of boys physically attacking rish yeshivas, pushing and hitting, throwing yogurts, shtenders, etc.. I don't know, or care, what they are fighting about, nor do I remember which group is who - they call the two groups the "sonim" and the "mechablim" - the haters and the terrorists. Not overly positive names.

So they have been fighting again and now the police are involved. The police brought the two sides together to seek out a compromise, warning them that if no compromise is reached the police will shut down the entire institution for a month (including over Shavuos).

Obviously each side blames the other for causing the uptick in violence and for refusing to compromise.

Kikar is reporting that the "sonim" are claiming that before corona their faction held most of the seats in the main sanctuary and their demand is to continue the previous arrangement, but in order to prevent the yeshiva from being shut down they are willing to compromise on splitting it 50-50. They say they are waiting for a response fomr the other side but expect it to be refused - this would cause a problem for the sonim as their beis medrash would be shut down leaving them no place to learn but the mechablim actually have another beis medrash to use. 

So the mechablim will reject the offer just to get the beis medrash shut down for the sonim while they have an alternative solution for themselves.

The "mechablim" are claiming that the sonim are using their connections with the police and the entire suggestion of closing down the yeshiva to force a compromise was suggested by the sonim and shutting down Ponevezh has never happened - it functions 24 hours a day.

It is not for me to determine who is right and who is wrong. I don't think I can even suggest the two factions part ways if they can't live with each other, because there is probably a lot of money and prestige involved and it would need to be determined who retains the rights to the building and property and everything inside along with use of the name.

I also don't understand why the students are fighting over this. Where is the adult leadership? Where are the rosh yeshivas in this? Why don't they get an objective arbitrator, another outside rosh yeshiva, or a beis din, to sit down and make a decision regarding whatever issues they are fighting about? WHy are the students leading the battle here?

So, while the fighting continues and the threat of the police shutting them down hangs over their heads, all that's left is that the compromise discussion reminded of the story of King Solomon sitting in judgement over the two mothers, each claiming the live baby is hers and the dead baby is of the other woman. The one that was ok with splitting the baby was determined to not be the actual mother of the live baby as no mother would do that - she would give the baby away before splitting it.






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Apr 18, 2021

in Bet Shemesh we make the news rather than being innocent bystanders

Page Six is reporting that Karlie Kloss and Josh Kushner, yes - the brother of, publicized the name of their newborn baby, which was meant to be kept secret, only after a yeshiva in Bet Shemesh sent out a mazel tov notice with the baby name in their alumnus newsletter.

According to the report, Yeshivat Reishit, which is a wonderful yeshiva by all accounts, had not been told the name was meant to be kept secret and wished the couple a mazel tov. once the name was out, there was no way to keep it secret any longer. After that, and after Page Six told them they were going to run the story, the Kushner-Klosses posted the baby name on Instagram.

Baby Boy Kushner is named Levi Joseph Kushner, after his grandfather.

Mazel tov! Much nachas!


Joshua Kusher and Karlie Kloss
Joshua Kusher and Karlie Kloss’ baby’s name is Levi Joseph.
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Oct 12, 2020

the beis medrash and Noah's Ark

I heard today that Rav Malkiel Kotler, the Rosh Yeshiva of BMG, the lakewood Yeshiva, sad on Simchas Torah in his drasha, "A person who wants to wear a mask in the bais midrash is the same as a person who wants to open an umbrella on the teivah"

Assuming the quote is accurate, I found this to be somewhat amusing. It evoked some funny imagery. The teiva was surrounded by torrential rains and flooding and someone on Noah's ark is going to open an umbrella to stay dry. 

So, what did he mean?

Is wearing a mask an exercise in futility in the beis medrash the way opening an umbrella on the deck of the Ark is an exercise in futility because there is so much COVID in the beis medrash?

The survival of the people on the Ark was based on their faith in God's protection, and opening an umbrella would be countering that faith. Survival in the beis medrash in today's times is also base don faith, and wearing a mask would be opposing that and exhibiting lack of faith.

Rav Kotler's statement also reminded me of the statement of a rav a bunch of years ago that compared the beis medrash with Noah's Ark, saying that the yeshiva world today is like Noah's Ark, protecting us from all the external negative influences.
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Whatever it is exactly that he meant, I found the comparison to be evocative. 


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Sep 2, 2020

Interesting Psak: Yeshivas shouldn't test talmidim for Corona

The numbers were bound to skyrocket quickly as the kids went back to school and the boys went back to yeshiva. I don't think anybody did not expect this to happen.
 
The result of the spiking numbers s an interesting psak by Rav Chaim Kanievsky.

Until now we have heard of individual rosh yeshivas, community rabbis, and Hassidic leaders instructing their students and followers to not get tested, so as to not put the yeshiva or community at risk of being shut down or forced into closure because of too many Corona infections. This approach has been widely criticized, but it has not gone away. 

In Professor Roni Gimzu's approach to fighting Corona, known as the traffic light model (approved by the Corona Cabinet this past week), cities will be classified as red, orange, yellow or green, depending on the levels of Corona spreading in the city. Depending on the classification, the city will be treated accordingly with different restrictions, obviously with red having the strictest restrictions. One of the lesser known aspects of the traffic light model is that if a city has too little testing, it gets tagged as red, even with a low number of corona positives - so the approach of "not testing" to avoid detection and classification should not be rewarded.

Rav Chaim Kanievsky today paskened that yeshiva, referring specifically to yeshiva gedolas with dormitories, should no longer get their students tested. Rav Kanievsky explained that the testing causes tremendous bittul torah, with thousands of talmidim who are not at risk being forced into quarantine. Rav Kanievsky has added that this applies to dormitory yeshivas who should stay "closed" until after Yom Kippur, with nobody coming in or out and the boys staying in yeshiva throughout the zman until Yom Kippur including all the Shabbosses (shabbatot). Essentially he is telling them to quarantine all together in the yeshiva without testing, instead of testing and some boys being sent home or to Corona Hotels. Obviously staff members and rebbeim who are in a high risk category should all be careful to keep their distance from the students.

I get his opinion, especially if he is telling them to all basically quarantine in yeshiva anyway. t almost seems harmless, unless you think the yeshivas dont really have a way to control it and stop boys from leaving or coming back. Some probably do and some probably don't,

The bigger question is how this will affect the nation and the decisions to be mad eon further restrictions. I am worried that with no testing in yeshivas, it will have an adverse affect on the decision to be made regarding a closure fo the holidays. They will decide that the numbers are no longer reliable and there is too much unknown. Without a closure all those untested yeshiva boys, many of whom likely have corona or will contract it soon while locked up together  will come home after Yom Kippur and on Sukkos will infect their grandparents and uncles and aunts and other at risk family members. 

I am concerned that this decision by Rav Kanievsky will almost gaurantee a government decision for a full closure over the holidays.





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Aug 19, 2020

Gafni's condition for the budget postponement

The lack of a budget has hurt much of Israeli society, including the yeshivas, kollels and avreichim. Without yet having passed the 2020 a budget. the State is operating on a budget based on numbers from 2017 - the last budget was passed in 2018, and 2019 was a year of elections that passed no new budget. Whatever is being given out now, as emergency funds, is being given out based on numbers form 2 to 3 years ago.

The law requires the budget to be passed this week, or else the Knesset is automatically dispersed and new elections called. Gantz and Netanyahu signed a coalition agreement that the government would pass a 2 year budget. Netanyahu has been insisting on passing a one year budget now, passing the budget for 2021 next year, and has refused to capitulate, and Gantz has refused to give in to Netanyahu's demands saying we have a signed agreement, honor it. Coming down to the last few days, MK Tzvi Hauser (telem - Kachol Lavan) came up with a solution to avoiding the crisis - passing a law that would postpone the requirement for the passage of a budget - this would give them all more time to fight about it without the immediate threat of Knesset dispersal.

While debating this law proposal in the Knesset Finance Committee, MK Moshe Gafni (UTJ) proposed, through his proxies as he himself just underwent a surgical procedure, that the law allowing the postponement of the budget passage only be passed if it includes a clause that they immediately pass a special budget for the yeshivas to the tune of 400 million shekels. Gafni's demand and threat (he is saying he will hold up the law unless this demand is met) will be discussed and considered. (Walla News, Haredim10)

The entire country is struggling, organizations are folding, people who need services can't get them from underfunded institutions, and Gafni is working on getting the yeshivas a special dispensation as if they are the only ones suffering.

With all the things that could be said, would be said, are being said, about Gafni and his demand - one has to admire how he works for his constituents.  Where are all the other MKs fighting for special budgets for interest groups close to them, for their electorate? Sure, Gafni is in a unique position as head of the committee that debates these things, but others could have made their voices heard all along, making demands to help this organization or that institution. Gafni seems to be the only one that instead of just making do with the lousy situation and waiting, he works hard on finding ways to push his electorate's agenda forward, despite the obstacles.




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Aug 6, 2020

creativity going to waste

Some people can be very creative, and honestly some of the most creative people are in the leadership and askanus of the Haredi community.

The government, led by PM Netanyahu, decided to give out a stimulus grant to the Israeli public to give a jump-start to the economy. Give people some extra money and they'll spend it and get things rolling. The government gave 500nis per child (for the first 4 children in a family, and 300nis per child for each one after the fourth) and is now in the process of giving the 750nis per adult, with some disabled getting more, depending on qualifications.

According to Hamechadesh, the Igud Menahalei Yeshivot filed a petition with Knesset Finance Committee head MK Moshe Gafni (UTJ) to consider avreichim as people in the category of financially disabled. 

While I am not sure what that category actually is and if it exists (I could not find anything about it on a google search) as a real legal qualification, Hamechadesh describes it financial disability as a category defined as anyone who has no income from work and/or income less than 60% of the average income. I am not sure what that means as what they wrote contradicts itself - no income or income at less than 60% of the average?

So the Igud Menahalei Yeshivot wrote to Gafni asking for consideration that the avreichim who have only received 600nis per month because there is no budget in place, essentially earning 3.5nis per hour for 40 hours per week and 160-180 hours per month.

They add that sooner or later the avreichim will be in financial crisis and they and their families will begin to go hungry.

the Igud then requests from Gafni to consider the avreichim financially disabled so that they can qualify for the larger stimulus grants, doubled to 1500nis. 

I have not seen any response to this report and am not aware of a decision on this matter. It is definitely not unreasonable. Perhaps anyone earning so little should be granted an upgraded stimulus grant. 

Now if only all this creativity could be used to help all of Israel get out of all its problems, rather than just for minor community issues...think where we might be...it seems like a waste to me to keep such creative minds working for such minor issues...they are too creative for such minor positions.



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Jul 16, 2020

Mayor Lion pleads for the yeshivas

According to Kikar, Mayor of Jerusalem Moshe LiOn has appealed  to the Minister of Health and from the National Security Council to not shut down the yeshivas.

LiOn's request has two aspects to it.

The first request is to not shut down the yeshivas now. Lion says that shutting down the yeshivas will send all the yeshiva boys home to their families to spread the infections in small overcrowded apartments, in the shuls they will definitely go to, and on the streets as the kids look for things to do and for ways to keep busy. Lion says the yeshivas are functioning on the capsule system and can stay that way. Breaking that up and sending that home will spread the disease. The right thing to do would be to isolate the yeshivas the way they are now and keep them there.

The second request is to force the yeshivas to not shut down in two weeks for bein hazmanim. Rather, make them continue all the way until the Tishrei holidays with no break. Doing this will keep the boys off the streets and out of the communities an will prevent the spread of the virus.

Lion didn't come up with the first idea on his own. That has been said a number of times already by many. I don't know what the government plans to do, but it makes sense to keep the petri dishes closed off rather than open them up to exposing everyone back home. As much as the idea makes sense, Lion is just pandering to his voters by pushing this. he added nothing and he probably has little to no influence.

The second suggestion is one I had not heard before, and kudos to Moshe Lion for the idea/suggestion. It sounds like a good idea, especially with the complaining about the yeshiva system being so hurt by the situation with so many boys unable to return to yeshiva - this could strengthen the yeshivas and the boys in them, even if it does not help the boys that unfortunately have not been able to return. At least the yeshivas that are open can do something extraordinary.








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Jul 8, 2020

the new Kosher Gym to circumvent Corona Regulations

We have seen groups of people doing activities in various places during Corona find ways around the rules, such as having a minyan but calling it a protest for George Floyd, having a children's street fair and turning it into a protest, and the like.

We haven't seen, that I know of, anyone running a business or event that is technically against the rules but calling it a yeshiva to get around the rules...

Until now.

Yaron Cohen, owner of Crossfit Bet Shean, a gym in Bet Shean has decided that instead of closing his gym, as per the new regulations, he will bring in shiurei torah to the gym and then 19 people will be allowed at the same time, and they can workout while listening to the shiurei torah. And I assume the word listening nit he previous sentence should be in quotation marks...

Actually, they arent actually shiurei torah in the traditional sense, but as he writes on his Facebook page:
The Torah - Crossfit
The God - the God of physical fitness
The Faith - physical fitness contributes to physical and mental health and saves people from disease

Basically, they are going to teach Crossfit as if it is Torah - not "as if" - they are saying it is Torah, so they qualify under the rules.

To clarify, he says, he is not trying to insult anyone, he respects religion and has many religious people coming to train, but this is not against religion or Torah but against the decisions of the government. If someone wants to be insulted anyway, he says, that's his prerogative, as their gym was hurt by the State.

I think it is likely they might play some torah shiurim on the sound system just as an extra precaution

Who knows? Maybe someone will become religious or love Torah just a little more because of this...




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Jul 7, 2020

why Gafni got angry about the yeshivas possibly being shut

This morning on two different news whatsapp groups I am in there were interesting news items posted one after the other.

First was posted an item about People from MK Gafni's team (sourced to Israel Hayom) explaining Gafni's anger about the yeshivas possibly being shut down. Gafni said that there are 92 yeshivot, most of the yeshivot that reopened, that are working on the "capsule" system of keeping groups of boys together with no external contact and no contact between groups. It was a logistical nightmare, but it works and Gafni says that in those 92 yeshivas there has not been one single case of Corona or required isolation.

The next notice in those whatsapp groups was of a yeshiva (Ateret Shlomo) in which another group of students were found to have Corona, bringing the number of infected boys in that yeshiva to over 100.

I thought those two notices one after the other was ironic.

So first of all, Ateret Shlomo was one of the first to adopt the program of capsules in order to reopen. And they are highly infected there. So Gafni is wrong. Maybe they have not kept to the capsules strictly, I don't know, but even if that's the case that shows a problem with the capsules anyway. Either way, Gafni is wrong because yeshivas that opened with the capsules are still having problems.

Second, there is a concept of lo plug. I can understand it, even if it is not necessary, if it is deemed that any given industry needs to be shut down because of public health concerns - the government shuts the entire industry even if a yeshiva or business within the group doesn't suffer form the problem - but they get shut down along with everyone else.

Third, I have no problem with Gafni wanting to keep such yeshivas open - if they have determined that their methods of keeping people safe works, go for it. Gafni should not be out there protecting the yeshiva industry from being shut down - he should be putting together a plan to keep safe yeshivas open and infected yeshivas closed. Instead he fights to keep everything open. So Beit Matisyahu and Ateret Shlomo (among others) are infecting by the hundreds because Gafni isn't willing to take any responsibility and only scream and use political pressure. 





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May 24, 2020

bring the talmidim back!

Minister of Interior Aryeh Deri today approved, in coordination with the Health Ministry and the Foreign Ministry, the return of all foreign yeshiva students and avreichim back to Israel to learn in the yeshivos and kollels.

Deri sent a letter to the various Rosh Yeshivas explaining the process and the requirements for this to happen.

the yeshiva will have to make specific requests for approval of each student, though they will be given a dedicated email address for these requests rather than having to go through the general process and department.
The yeshiva will have to declare that they know the returning avreich and family has a place for quarantine.
For yeshiva bochurim, the yeshiva will set aside a dormitory area for the students to quarantine in.
The yeshiva will have to provide all the necessary food for the students during the duration of their quarantine.
Each student will need his own bedroom, bathroom and shower in quarantine, not to be shared with other students.

Haredim10 quotes an anonymous person in the yeshiva system who asks why Deri isnt requiring Corona tests for students to return, and he also does not specify what the punishment will be if a yeshiva is not careful about following these guidelines.

The most difficult part of this, to me, would seem to be the requirement of one room/shower/toilet per quarantined student. Most yeshivas, I would imagine, do not have facilities that can meet such a requirement.





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May 20, 2020

which came first? the chicken or the egg...

Rav Shalom Ber Sorotzkin was given permission to open his yeshiva without the limitations of the "capsules" as it has been over the past couple of weeks.

Rav Sorotzkin gave a drasha in the yeshiva and said some very nice things to his talmidim about them being chosen to be first to open fully...

The interesting part is that Rav Sorotzkin said took the credit for the end of Corona by saying that as soon as his yeshiva opened, the pandemic finished.

That is like the question of which came first - the chicken or the egg? Did the yeshiva open because the pandemic was over or is the pandemic over because the yeshiva opened? Maybe it does not matter, and let each person think what he wants about it.

And, to be fair, the pandemic isnt quite over. People are still sick and dying from it, even in Israel, even if the numbers are going down. Hopefully it is really on the way out, but we don't really know for sure.





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Jan 20, 2020

Netanyahu's free pass despite cutting yeshiva budgets

The Ministry of Finance is cutting budgets. Among other things, the budget allocated for yeshiva students and avreichim is also being cut.

The news has publicized a series of meetings that were to be held by leaders of the Haredi parties, the Ministry of Finance and PM Benjamin Netanyahu to try to find a solution, to try to persuade the MoF to scrap the budget cuts, to find alternate monies, or some other solution to save the yeshivas and avreichim from these cuts.

At the last minute the meetings were canceled by Netanyahu. Supposedly Netanyahu was concerned about the publicity the issue would receive in the press of him cutting budgets of various items but agreeing to increase the budgets for yeshivas, or at least cancel the planned cuts if not an actual increase.

In the grand scheme of things, it does not sound like a lot of money, but when bundled with all the other budget cuts it is probably pretty significant.

According to Actualic, the Prime Minister's Office told the Haredi politicians to lower their profile on the matter and not turn it into a crisis and not talk about this topic in interviews. UTJ seems to think that despite the efforts they plan to continue to make to avert the budget cuts, it is a done deal and there won't be anything for them to do.

According to Behadrei, the cuts are so significant that the new numbers are similar to what the yeshivas and avreichim received from the government back in the days of Yair Lapid's government (also under Netanyahu). The numbers they publish, if accurate, are pretty similar.

I am surprised. The Haredi parties have backed Netanyahu through thick and thin in recent years and have been unwavering in their support. This does not seem like so much money that Netanyahu would not agree to give it back, especially considering the support he received from them. Netanyahu has overseen significant budget cuts to the yeshivas a number of times already.

Back in the day Netanyahu, as Finance Minister in 2003 I think, cut yeshiva budgets and child allowances. Thart was harsh, but Netanyahu was quickly forgiven.

In 2013 Yair Lapid was Finance Minister under Benjamin Netanyahu as Prime Minister, and Lapid cut the yeshiva bdgets significantly. Lapid has been treated as an anti-haredi politician since then with Haredi politicians refusing to sit with him or even talk with him, yet Netanyahu who was overall in charge was let off the hook.

Now in 2020 Netanyahu is Prime Minister and the Likud holds the FInance Ministry and budgets are again being cut. I don't know what tomorrow will bring, but so far the Haredi politicians are making nary a peep.

Somehow Netanyahu gets a free pass on these issues. Not only does it seem the Haredi politicians won't be making much noise about this, but they will also likely continue supporting him for Prime Minister more solidly than anyone else...




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May 12, 2019

when the courts decide the davening times...

There was an interesting court case regarding a yeshiva and a shul in Elad in which it ended up that it was up to the courts to set the official time for starting davening.

According to Behadrei, City Hall of Elad allocated a plot to a shul in April 2000. 17 years later, in December 2017, the same City Hall (though under different leadership) allocated the same property for a yeshiva, Yeshivas Ateres Shlomo under the ownership and leadership of Rav Shalom Ber Sorotzkin.

Shul leadership tried to get the second allocation canceled after initial attempts at coming to a peaceful agreement of how to share usage of the building failed, as representatives of the yeshiva never cooperated and did not even go to the set meetings.

After spending nearly a year in court fighting over this, they came to agreements regarding most issues on the table with both institutions continuing to use the building. For example, they agreed that on Shabbos the shul membership would get use of 70 seats and the yeshiva would get 100 seats. During yeshiva vacation periods, the shul can use as much of the resources as they see fit.

Other issues as well were relatively easy to find solutions for. Such as, the shul would daven mincha 20 minutes before sunset while the yeshiva would daven mincha gedola at 12:30pm (and I guess 1:15 during the summer months). The shul and yeshiva would daven kabalas shabbos and maariv together, as well as davening mincha on Shabbbos afternoon 40 minutes before sunset together. On Motzei Shabbos the shul would daven first at their regular time and the yeshiva would daven after them. Expenses would be shared with shul membership paying a set monthly fee to the yeshiva to cover expenses.

Aliyot to the torah would divided equally among the yeshiva and the shul membership, as well as dividing up leading the various services. They also agreed upon an arrangement for sharing the gabbaus.

The one thing they could not agree on that required a court decision was what time to start davening on Shabbos morning. The shul wanted to start later, saying they always start at 8:30 with minor adjustments depending on the time of year and the time for shema. The yeshiva says that is too late, as yeshivas always start at 7:15. They also claimed that the shul historically did not really start at 8:30 but at 8:15 and is only claiming 8:30 for the purpose of negotiations. The shul said they would agree to make it earlier up to 8am, but as everyone gets up early to daven during the week before going to work, on Shabbos they want to start later.

Regarding that one issue they could not come to any agreement, so the courts decided that davening on Shabbos morning in the shul/yeshiva would be at 7:45am.

such a weird fight to have to go to court over. It seems like just a little bit of goodwill could have solved this easily. Considering the money spent on courts and lawyers, they probably could have bought a second building and each run their own services according to their own preferences....


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May 6, 2019

Chevron Yeshiva reopens in Hebron by Neturei Karta

Kikar is reporting that a group of Neturei Karta activists went into the old building of the Knesset Yisrael - Chevron Yeshiva in Hebron, with the cooperation and agreement of local Hebron [Palestinian] residents and, sort of, reopened the yeshiva.

They plan to learn there and even bring more yeshiva students in, for the summer semester and onward.

According to the article, the negotiations were handled secretly so Zionist forces would not thwart them. As well, there is mutual respect between them and their Palestinian neighbors and they look forward to living together in peace and tranquility as it was in the past before the Zionists came along and ruined everything.

Being that the Zionists were not the ones living in Hebron in 1929 and operating the Chevron Yeshiva associated with Slabodka, but the Zionists were already active in other parts of the country, there is no reason to think Zinonists being in other parts of the country now will effect any different of a reaction than the reaction "caused" by Zionists in other parts of the country in 1929.

As much as I don't like the Neturei Karta people, I hope ad pray they will not be slaughtered one day by their new neighbors, as had been done right there in the past, but that they will live in peace and tranquility among them. Expanding the Jewish enterprise in the Holy Land is a wonderful thing, even if it is not being done in the name of a Zionist government.




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Feb 3, 2019

yeshiva vandalized in Jerusalem

According to reports, a yeshiva in Jerusalem was vandalized on Friday night. The yeshiva is Yeshivat Tiferet Yisrael, located in the Diskin building in the Givat Shaul neighborhood. The vandals did not desecrate the sifrei torah this time, but they desecrate the seforim, sets of tefillin and megilla scrolls.

After taking keys, they were able to get into the aron kodesh, but they didn't desecrate the torah scrolls, though they did steal the silver "hand" pointer along with a silver torah crown.

I really hope this is not becoming a thing. On the one hand, it seems to me to be different than the incident this past week in Kiryat Hayovel. This looks like frustrated thieves, whereas the incident in Kiryat Hayovel looked like they were out to cause damage. On the other hand, new methods tend to snowball and take on a life of their own...




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Dec 23, 2018

12/22/18 New York State Education Bill - Dealing with the Danger - How much, if any, secular studies should we have? (audio)

very interesting..





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Nov 12, 2017

Fine for Missing Minyan

This is interesting, though I have no idea what makes it newsworthy.

According to The Forward, a male student of Yeshiva University is being fined $150 for violating the rules of a coed shabbaton.

One might think, upon hearing just that, that he must have violated a pretty serious rule. Maybe something keeping the boundaries between the men and the women or something else serious in that way. It turns out the rule he violated was sleeping through minyan. The rules stipulate that all participants must partake in all scheduled programs of the shabbaton and every participant had to sign his/her commitment to do so. Participation was highly subsidized and the fines were set to reimburse monies from the wasted subsidies.

Back when I was in Yeshiva High School, Telshe Yeshiva more specifically, boys also got fined for missing minyan. The fines back then were more to the tune of just a few dollars, increasing with the frequency of the missing of the minyan, but the idea of a fine is nothing new.  I guess with adults you expect people to be treated more like adults than like 14 or 15 year olds, but so be it. One significant difference is that we did not have coed shabbatonim, though that is not really relevant to this story..




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