May 22, 2008
expect action tonight
The Badatz has been advertising warnings against various activites in meron that have been prevalent in previous years.
the way up to the kever Rashbi in Meron has become something similar to a carnival. Companies have stands offering their products, politicians have stands, social groups have stands, booksellers, computer software companies, Chabad, Breslav and many other groups. They put up stands on the mountain leading up to Rashbi. They sell items, they have video screens showing films of whatever they are offering, etc.
the authorities have been able to make some changes in recent years; they have made some of the roads leading up to Rashbi to be "mehadrin" in which some of those activites cannot happen, separate buses, separate sides of street, rules about what can be displayed and what kind of food sold,, etc.
The Badatz has warned that this year they will not put up with the video screens or with stalls selling anything but sifrei kodesh.
Here is one sample of a warning from the Badatz:
They threaten violence against those who do not heed the warning, and they blame the potential victim saying you have been warned so do not complain afterwards about any loss of money and damage incurred.
Anyway, there are reports of specific threats and knowledge, both by organizers and by police, of the identities of those who are planning on making trouble with violence and attempting to damage others property tonight in meron.
Lo and behold, the three names that have been talked about as those who will be there are oour friendly neighborhood hooligans from RBS B. They have become more violent than their counterparts in yerushalayim and they are the ones expected by the national police to be perpetrating, or at least attempting to, violence tonight in Meron.
the way up to the kever Rashbi in Meron has become something similar to a carnival. Companies have stands offering their products, politicians have stands, social groups have stands, booksellers, computer software companies, Chabad, Breslav and many other groups. They put up stands on the mountain leading up to Rashbi. They sell items, they have video screens showing films of whatever they are offering, etc.
the authorities have been able to make some changes in recent years; they have made some of the roads leading up to Rashbi to be "mehadrin" in which some of those activites cannot happen, separate buses, separate sides of street, rules about what can be displayed and what kind of food sold,, etc.
The Badatz has warned that this year they will not put up with the video screens or with stalls selling anything but sifrei kodesh.
Here is one sample of a warning from the Badatz:
They threaten violence against those who do not heed the warning, and they blame the potential victim saying you have been warned so do not complain afterwards about any loss of money and damage incurred.Anyway, there are reports of specific threats and knowledge, both by organizers and by police, of the identities of those who are planning on making trouble with violence and attempting to damage others property tonight in meron.
Lo and behold, the three names that have been talked about as those who will be there are oour friendly neighborhood hooligans from RBS B. They have become more violent than their counterparts in yerushalayim and they are the ones expected by the national police to be perpetrating, or at least attempting to, violence tonight in Meron.
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iy"H, things will be quiet at home :)
ReplyDeleteDo you think something will really happen? It would be a great shame if something did.
ReplyDeletemike - if they are there, it should be quiet here.. :-)
ReplyDeletejmama - hopefully the police will pick them up before they do anything...
Someone should throw those guys a good beating
ReplyDeleteI'm surprised the Mishtara hasn't learned from the long-accepted practice of our beloved Chicago Police Dept. - handcuff 'em, put 'em in the back of the paddy wagon, and take a veeeeery long, leisurely stroll along the worst bumpy roads until you get back to the station.
ReplyDeleteI'm surprised the Mishtara hasn't learned from the long-accepted practice of our beloved Chicago Police Dept. - handcuff 'em, put 'em in the back of the paddy wagon, and take a veeeeery long, leisurely stroll along the worst bumpy roads until you get back to the station.
ReplyDeleteThey could take them around Dolev...
I'm confused. First off, the poster didnt' say anything about the "Bdatz".
ReplyDeleteAs this would be the first time I've ever heard of a formal threat by "frum" Jews that if you don't maintain our standard we will be mazik your stuff.
Has anyone ever heard of a formal threat like this before?
This is reason enough to turn people off of aliyah.
lazer - this was one half of the poster. The other half had badatz rabbonim signed on it. Anyways,i only included it as an example. They have been advertising in various weekly magazines their warnings in various forms.
ReplyDeleteBut don't let it sway you from aliya. there are problems everywhere. At least the hooligans here are a minority. Sure they make noise, and we have to oppose them, but they should not sway you from aliya.
ely, mike and the rest - the only problem is, these guys thrive when arrested. That is what makes them heroes and martyrs. They are happy to sit in jail for a few days.
Chabad OnLine has announced that Yerushalmi Kannoim have attacked their stand and have been trying to dismantle it. As well, they have been trying to approach the large chabad video screen to attack it.
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don't worry, mo. i got there at netz when e/t was pretty much over. there were a few weirdos, and it was sort of squishy, but it really wasn't bad. th worst part, frankly, was the six hour ride there. i got back in one piece.
ReplyDeletesara - who is mo? why'd it take 6 hours? traffic? do you mean 3 hours each way or 6 hours one way?
ReplyDeletethe violence, while there was some against the chabad stand and video screen, seems not as bad as was expected. Maybe the cops took them in or maybe they had better control of the area because they knew what to expect.
six hours there, four hours back, from meron to yerushalayim. the only illegal activity was a fourteen year old without a liscence. and the mishtarah was very aggressive.
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