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Nov 14, 2024
ceasefire betrayal?
According to a report in the Washington Post Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu has already basically agreed to a ceasefire but is only going to put it into effect in January as a gift to incoming US President Donald Trump. Netanyahu does not want to give President Biden a "win" but does want to curry favor with Trump who wants the wars to end (while telling Israel finish the wars but get it done, do what you have to do) so will wait on the arrangements until January when Trump takes office.
If this is true, it would be criminal of Netanyahu and a betrayal of the people of Israel. Our sons and daughters, husbands, fathers, sisters, brothers need to continue dying and being injured in Lebanon (and Gaza, which might not have the same arrangement), having their lives destroyed, their families torn apart, soldiers undergoing mental traumas, people's lives upended for an extra couple of months all so Netanyahu can curry favor with Trump, rather than the need for battle? If true, this would be disgraceful. There will be plenty of other wins to give Trump later.
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Decisions of when to fight and not fight being determined by personal political calculationshe is one of the reasons why all the "milchemes mitzva" talk is such abject nonsense.
ReplyDeleteAlso, FYI, you have Jews for Jesus ads.
Should read "political calculations"
DeleteOn the contrary, once the ceasefire starts, the war is effectively over. Hezbollah and Hamas will continue to fire on Israel, the hostages will be returned but Tzahal will be forbidden from responding because "there's a ceasefire and you dare not violate it!"
DeleteSo this actually gives Israel 6-8 weeks to continue their operations without being harassed.
it doesnt mean that now any more or less than it will mean that in a few weeks or in two months. and in general it is unlikely that violations of a ceasefire would pass quietly at this point, unlike in the past
Deleteand no, I am not advocating for a ceasefire and saying we should go to one now. I am saying that if one is ready and the only thing holding it up is that Netanyahu wants to wait for Trump, that's not a good reason
DeleteI agree but the bottom line is that a real ceasefire means the end of the war and an Israeli withdrawal while Hamas and Hezbollah get to continue provoking.
DeleteYeah, it's nonsense, because no one's life is really at risk. At least no one you know, and that's what matters, right?
DeleteI think you have this backwards. Acc. to the WAPO article, Netanyahu is "rushing" the ceasefire to get it done in January. Meaning it will be done faster, not slower.
ReplyDeleteI agree that a ceasefire should be done as as soon as makes sense militarily. But not sooner or later.
As for Hezbollah firing back, with Trump I don't think you have to worry about restraining Israel. He is likely to say, they had a ceasefire, they broke it, go after them Bibi.
I would believe very little of what I see in the news, especially in that newspaper. The Democrats have been planting false stories for over a year.
ReplyDeleteWhy should there be a ceasefire at all? This war should have done with a long time ago already. It is disgraceful and a desecration of G-D's Holy Name that each and every one of
ReplyDeletethese brutal insane murderers were not eradicated. It seems that Jewish blood is
worthless in the eyes of the leadership of the military and of the State and definitely by the world at large. Instead of Nitzachon, there is 'busha.
at what point do we say we have achieved victory/nitzachon? havent we already? Personally I believe that from a military perspective we won the war a long time ago. Neither Hamas nor Hezbollah were strong enough to destroy Israel, though they made a lot of trouble for us and maybe Hezbollah could have made more. But the IDF recovered and destroyed Hamas and then went and destroyed Hezbollah. once the IDF started getting to work, Hamas and Hezbollah had no chance. They are fighting a war with rockets, with their fighters and rocket supplies being diminished every day by the IDF, while we are destroying everything about them with our air force and ground troops. Militarily we already won, even though the war continues. We can stop at any time that we deem we have hurt them badly enough and they are willing to give us the security we demand..
DeleteThe only open issue is really the hostages. Their return is one of the objectives of the war and that has been a failure so far, but maybe moving forward we will win on that as well. I think in the end it will require a deal of some sort. The "military pressure will bring them back" hasnt proven itself successful to either locate and rescue hostages (the military heroically rescued several hostages, but it also killed several, and there are still the vast majority whose whereabouts remain unknown) or to temper the demands of Hamas in negotiations.
That's far from "the only open problem". May I remind you that all those people *still* haven't returned to those homes in the north? We're at a state where we somehow think it's "normal" to have missiles shot at us every now and then. It. Is. Not. and it has to stop, period.
DeleteAlso, call a ceasefire and you'll never see the hostages again.
people being able to go home would obviously be the point of the ceasefire arrangement so that doesnt count. the terms of the deal would obviously be set so that the area is secure and people can go home and feel secure.
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