Showing posts with label Moshe Abutbol. Show all posts
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Feb 1, 2024
Moshe Abutbol for Mayor campaign is underway
The Moshe Abutbol for Mayor campaign is underway, plastering signs around the neighborhood.
One sign I saw looks fine, mentioning Achdut in Bet Shemesh under Abutbol (because he signed support with Agudat Israel and expects to sign with other parties, so he is calling that Achdut). The other sign being plastered around is less understandable, at least to me.
The slogan on these signs say "Aryeh needs a strong Moshe, Moshe Abutbol for Mayor of Bet Shemesh".
Why? Why does Aryeh need a strong Moshe? How does a strong Moshe as Mayor of Bet Shemesh help Aryeh Deri doing anything specific in the government? Feel free to enlighten me.
I do get that it is a play on words using a similar campaign theme to the last Shas campaign in the national elections, saying Bibi Needs a strong Aryeh", but at least that made sense - Bibi needed a strong turnout of support for Shas to form a stable coalition. That makes sense. I guess they are banking on that theme in people's minds, but I dont get a strong Moshe helps Deri or how a weak Moshe hurts Deri. Of course Deri wants him to win, but how does this hurt or help Deri?
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Jan 30, 2024
Bet Shemesh municipal elections update
Interesting developments in Bet Shemesh municipal elections.
With less than a month to go until election day we are seeing some activity in the ranks of the candidates.
Today had Gur signing a deal of support for Moshe Abutbol as mayor of Bet Shemesh. While we don't know what they get in return, Minister Yitzchak Goldknopf and his team signed with Abutbol and will campaign on his behalf.
That means Agudat Israel is split, with Gur and Vizhnitz supporting Abutbol, and Shlomei Emunim and Belz (and some small groups) supporting Degel Hatorah's candidate Shmuel Greenberg for mayor.
I dont think any parties [yet] have signed support for Aliza Bloch, the current mayor up for re-election.
Several other parties have still not [yet] announced which candidate they support for mayor.
Besides for getting support from at least some of the remaining parties, Bloch's best hope seems to be to benefit from a Haredi split - which has now actually happened.
With elections scheduled for the end of February, there is still plenty of time for a lot to happen.
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Sep 11, 2023
Bet Shemesh elections getting dizzying
Local politics got wild last night, and I think Bet Shemesh politics, municipal elections, might have surpassed Bnei Braq in its craziness.
While everyone was busy speculating on the clash between Degel candidate Shmuel Greenberg and the incumbent Mayor Dr Aliza Bloch trying to guess who is garnering support from where and who has the edge in the upcoming elections, Shas threw down the gauntlet with Deri announcing that they are going to run their own candidate, former Mayor of Bet Shemesh and current MK and Deputy Mayor Moshe Abutbol.
Shas is upset at Degel. The way the Haredi parties conduct elections (in cities controlled largely by them) is by dividing up the spoils with multi-city agreements, such as, in Bnei Braq you will support my candidate for mayor and in exchange in Elad I will support yours, while in Rechasim you will support mine and in Bet Shemesh I will support yours, etc. Degel seems to have broken the long standing set of agreements, and Shas is upset. In Bet Shemesh there is an additional problem in that Shas considers Shmuel Greenberg persona non grata as they say he hurt them in the past (both in Bet Shemesh and Jerusalem) keeping Sefardic girls out of Ashkenazi seminaries, etc.
Running Moshe Abutbol for mayor in Bet Shemesh could be a real run at the mayorship, or it could be just to hurt Greenberg without explicitly helping Bloch who they also have lesser problems with. Being that Abutbol has not yet resigned from the Knesset or from his position as Deputy Minister, I personally consider it a not real candidacy, though it has potential to become one.
the announcement threw everyone in a tizzy. What does it mean? Who does it help? Who does it hurt? Each of the different commentators came up with a different explanation of how and why, and also of what it means for the elections as to who has a better chance of winning. Though it does look to almost guarantee that no candidate will win outright in the first round and we will almost definitely go to a second round to declare a winner. Imagining the scenarios that could play out and trying to guess who will support whom when and if what is dizzying
It looks like Shas is going to do the same in a few other cities as well now. And it also looks like Degel is going to retaliate and run their own candidate in Jerusalem against Lion instead of supporting him, and possibly oppose Shas in other cities as well.
And rumors are swirling over other candidates that might still announce, making it even more complicated and unpredictable!
We wait to see what happens, but it looks like this will likely be one of the most interesting municipal elections ever...
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Jul 5, 2022
Proposed Law: In God We Trust
MK Moshe Abutbol (Shas) has proposed a law with which he expects to defeat inflation.
According to Abutbol, just like in the USA the currency has printed on it "In God We Trust", in Israel we should do the same, expressing our faith in God providing sustenance and that will give us a spiritual anchor regarding the economic situation which right now is seeing increases and inflation across the board.
source: Hamechadesh
Well, it can't hurt to try!
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Nov 4, 2021
Picture of the Day
that is MK Moshe Abutbol (Shas) getting booted from the Knesset plenum last night during a marathon sessions dedicated to passing the budget. Abutbol trolled PM Bennett by pulling out a toy kitten doll and making cat noises (saying meow meow) while Bennett was speaking.
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Aug 11, 2021
trying to shut down Shabus
Several years ago an initiative began to operate private bus lines for free on Shabbos. It expanded fairly quickly to a number of cities - the best name was the one in Jerusalem called "Shabus". They seemed to be takin advantage of a loophole in the law prohibiting public transportation on Shabbos. Different ones operated in different ways, with some being entirely free while others functioned as a cooperative of sorts. They could not just sell tickets to passengers as that would turn them into something too similar to public transportation to be able to get away with it.
While I do not know what their status is now, as I have not heard anything about them for a while already, I figure they must still be operating because MK Moshe Abutbol (Shas) is now trying to shut them down.
According to Kol Hai News, Abutbol has petitioned the Attorney General, Avihai Mandelblit, to have him take action against these cooperatives like Shabus and Noa Tanua and shut them down.
Abutbol compares these organizations to the private mehadrin bus lines (not the bus lines Egged tried to declare as mehadrin for a period of time, but private buses) that used to operate in Haredi towns and neighborhoods trying to take advantage of the same loophole. Several years ago the Attorney General (I don't know if it was Mandelblit at the time) had those mehadrin lines all shut down as they were declared illegal. According to Abutbol these chilul shabbos buses should be the same and should be considered the same type of service lines operating without a license.
I don't know what their status actually is. Maybe they got their system in order, maybe even learning from the mehadrin line mistakes, to avoid being shut down the same way, or maybe they are operating the exact same way. I don't know. I don't even know if these shabbos bus lines have been successful - does anybody know more about their current status -are they in operation, do they carry lots of passengers, etc?
This petition is interesting to me and I look forward to seeing how this develops.
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Jul 20, 2021
MK Moshe Abutbol on the issue of flights to Uman and CoronaVirus (video)
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Jul 14, 2021
MKs Moshe Abutbol and Orit Struk on panel about government (video)
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Jul 5, 2021
MK Moshe Abutbol interview with Kikar Shabbat about Bennett and Lapid (video)
I have a soft spot in my heart for MK Moshe Abutbol, former mayor of Bet Shemesh...
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May 27, 2021
MK Abutbol: we want to investigate the truth (video)
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Apr 22, 2021
interview in Knesset with MK Moshe Abutbol (video)
Abutbol always gives an interesting interview, but I don't know why he has to keep screaming instead of just talking with the interviewer
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Mar 4, 2021
Quote of the Day
Smotritch, who is turning today to Haredim [to get them to vote for him] was recorded saying that he is bothered by the fact that Haredim are part of the coalition. He is National Religious, he should be concerned for his sector and not get involved with our sector.
-- MK Moshe Abutbol (Shas)
I always get a kick out of the Haredi reps telling the Dati Leumi to not try to "poach" their natural voters, stay away, and get publicly angry and upset at anything that even smells of such an attempt, yet they themselves try to "poach" the Dati voters -Shas opened headquarters recently in the Shomron and other dati areas, Porush went to Yitzhar to canvass for votes, etc.
They all have a right to try to find voters everywhere and anywhere. No party owns any voter. But if you are going to say we own these voters and dont you dare try to appeal to them, then you shouldnt try to appeal to other party's voters and should just stick to your own
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Dec 30, 2020
Quote of the Day
with a new party being announced and people moving between parties, there were a lot ofoptions for this qotd, but I am going with this selection..
If [Bennett] is not shomer, keeping safe, the Shabbos, how will he protect, yishmor, the Right?
-- MK Moshe Abutbol (Shas)
1. Bennett didn't break or desecrate Shabbos. He interviewed on Friday. The tv station broadcast the interview on Shabbos. One might disagree with, and criticize, his judgement and think he should not have agreed to that, but Bennett didn't desecrate the Shabbos
2. In Israel's history there have been plenty of people who did not keep shabbos but "protected" the Right. I am not quite sure what the connection is.
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Nov 25, 2020
Knesset recognizes day to fight violence against women (video)
I didn't watch the entire video of all the speeches in honor of the day for the fight against violence against women, kind of skipped around a bit. I particularly liked MK Abutbol at the beginning inviting Jonathan Pollard to move to Bet Shemesh.. no idea what that had to do with the issue of violence against women, but ok. He speaks again later, so maybe this first speech was leftover from something else. MK Baruchi (at about the 22:20 minute marker) was also interesting. I was impressed by how he could express an opinion opposed to the fight against violence against women - to be fair, he thinks women should not be singled out, not that this violence doesn't exist, but the opposition to violence should be to all violence within the family, including against children and husbands, along with against women.
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Nov 12, 2020
MK Abutbol tells Trump he went through the same thing in Bet Shemesh! (video)
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Nov 11, 2020
interview with MK Moshe Abutbol (video)
as a former mayor of my city, I always have an interest in what MK Abutbol has to say, even if he isn't talking about Bet Shemesh...
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Jul 14, 2020
Corona Attention on Bet Shemesh
Bet Shemesh is one of the Israeli towns with lockdown orders, though in Bet Shemesh the closure is only on a couple of neighborhoods, rather than on the entire city.
There are different approaches to what should be done. The Ministry of Health seems to prefer the closure approach, and has set closures on several cities and towns and neighborhoods around the country, and has done so more than once. Others say the closure approach does not work, especially the way it is being done. Some want more of an approach tried before of removing infected people out of their homes and towns, often crowded, and placed in Corona Hotels, dubbed now Coronatels.
MK Moshe Abutbol (Shas) is now pushing the Coronatel solution.
Abutbol put out a call to the people of Bet Shemesh affected to carefully follow all the laws and regulations such as wearing masks, social distancing and isolation - though he, in agreement with Mayor Dr Aliza Bloch, is of the opinion that the most important thing right now is to take the infected people out of the city to be placed in Coronatels.
Abutbol says keeping the relevant laws and regulations carefully, and taking the sick out to the Coronatels, is most important to minimize the need for closures.
Abutbol then calls on the public to help persuade infected people to go to the Coronatels and thereby help bring the closure on the areas in Bet Shemesh to a minimum or to an end.
Abutbol wants us to, the public, to try to get the infected people to understand they need to go to Coronatels. Okay. Sure. I really want to come into contact with a bunch of Corona-bearing people who refuse to cooperate with the authorities, refuse to follow the rules, and refuse to do what is generally thought best for themselves and for the public. Sure. Happy to help.
Kikar is reporting that Minister of Defense Benny Gantz has announced yesterday evening that he is putting together a full aid package for Bet Shemesh - leaving nobody behind, playing on the ethos of his army career.
Gantz publicized a number of points of his plan:
- Allocating space in Coronatels for both Haredim who need it, both individuals and families, and for people of other populations who need it
- The IDF and the Home Front Command will have buses ready and waiting in Bet Shemesh to immediately extract and transport people to the Coronatels
- The Ministry of Defense and the IDF will prepare to supply food baskets to residents, should the closure be extended for longer periods of time.
- The Iryah will be given a special budget for publicity and reaching out to the residents to explain the need, and to offer the options, of going to the Coronatels, in a variety of languages and through the various relevant media. The budget will be upwards of 100,000nis.
Bet Shemesh is getting some national attention...It seems necessary. Many keep the rules, and many do not, but either way, it seems like Corona is everywhere. I have neighbors in my building who recently tested positive. All around are people in isolation for coming into contact with positive people. Down the block and in my shul are people either in isolation or have tested positive and even been ill. The first time around, back in March and April, it seemed distant -troubling as it was. This time I know a lot of people who have the virus or have come into contact with them. It seems to be everywhere.
Stay safe and stay healthy
There are different approaches to what should be done. The Ministry of Health seems to prefer the closure approach, and has set closures on several cities and towns and neighborhoods around the country, and has done so more than once. Others say the closure approach does not work, especially the way it is being done. Some want more of an approach tried before of removing infected people out of their homes and towns, often crowded, and placed in Corona Hotels, dubbed now Coronatels.
MK Moshe Abutbol (Shas) is now pushing the Coronatel solution.Abutbol put out a call to the people of Bet Shemesh affected to carefully follow all the laws and regulations such as wearing masks, social distancing and isolation - though he, in agreement with Mayor Dr Aliza Bloch, is of the opinion that the most important thing right now is to take the infected people out of the city to be placed in Coronatels.
Abutbol says keeping the relevant laws and regulations carefully, and taking the sick out to the Coronatels, is most important to minimize the need for closures.
Abutbol then calls on the public to help persuade infected people to go to the Coronatels and thereby help bring the closure on the areas in Bet Shemesh to a minimum or to an end.
Abutbol wants us to, the public, to try to get the infected people to understand they need to go to Coronatels. Okay. Sure. I really want to come into contact with a bunch of Corona-bearing people who refuse to cooperate with the authorities, refuse to follow the rules, and refuse to do what is generally thought best for themselves and for the public. Sure. Happy to help.
Kikar is reporting that Minister of Defense Benny Gantz has announced yesterday evening that he is putting together a full aid package for Bet Shemesh - leaving nobody behind, playing on the ethos of his army career.
Gantz publicized a number of points of his plan:
- Allocating space in Coronatels for both Haredim who need it, both individuals and families, and for people of other populations who need it
- The IDF and the Home Front Command will have buses ready and waiting in Bet Shemesh to immediately extract and transport people to the Coronatels
- The Ministry of Defense and the IDF will prepare to supply food baskets to residents, should the closure be extended for longer periods of time.
- The Iryah will be given a special budget for publicity and reaching out to the residents to explain the need, and to offer the options, of going to the Coronatels, in a variety of languages and through the various relevant media. The budget will be upwards of 100,000nis.
Bet Shemesh is getting some national attention...It seems necessary. Many keep the rules, and many do not, but either way, it seems like Corona is everywhere. I have neighbors in my building who recently tested positive. All around are people in isolation for coming into contact with positive people. Down the block and in my shul are people either in isolation or have tested positive and even been ill. The first time around, back in March and April, it seemed distant -troubling as it was. This time I know a lot of people who have the virus or have come into contact with them. It seems to be everywhere.
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Jun 4, 2020
Kipa interview with MK Moshe Abutbol (video)
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Apr 26, 2020
MK Moshe Abutbol wants haircuts in Meron on Lag B'Omer
It seems as if MK Moshe Abutbol (Shas) has some special connection to the issue of haircuts.
Before Pesach MK Abutbol was requesting that the Corona Task Force, ie PM Benjamin Netanyahu and Minister Yaakov Litzman, allow barbershops to open. His logic then was that after Pesach people will not be able to get haircuts due to being in the middle of the Omer, so there was a pressing need to allow haircuts before Pesach, even though it was not within the regulations. or the spirit of the regulations. He wanted them to make an exception for haircuts in barbershops because of the Omer situation after Pesach.
And now MK Abubtbol is requesting that despite the regulations, or at least the expected regulations, for Lag B'Omer, will have Meron closed to the public (and possibly only open to a number of pre-approved rabbonim to have small bonfires), they open it to the public for haircuts for young children. Abutbol explains that it is a holy minhag to wait until a child is 3 years old and to go to Meron on lag B'Omer for the first haircut.
Abubtol suggests allowing it for children who pre-register and the haircuts can be staggered with each child being given a time to be there, rather than having it in large crowds as usual. Also the empty parking lots could be used and partitioned off to different areas with 19 people in each, similar to the minyanim now allowed at the Kotel (for people who live in the Old City).
I don't know that this is an issue important enough to fight over, when minyanim are barely allowed and when yeshivas are not open. I still cannot believe that people find things like this more important than being machmir on health concerns that they are willing to try to put pressure on the government to get this allowed. Corona does not just go away and stay away just because you successfully pressured the government to allow your event.
I wish them all good health and recommend they are either wait a little longer until the country opens up some more and/or the Corona threat goes away. Or they can just give the chalaka somewhere else - such as at home.
With the gradual easing of regulations anyway, with every few days being a little bit more returned closer to normal, this all may be moot by then anyways. By then haircuts might be allowed. I suspect even with that Lag B'Omer in Meron might be shut down, just like Pesach was shut down and Yom Haatzmaut will be, but if the numbers improve enough before then, perhaps it will be somewhat open and possible.
Before Pesach MK Abutbol was requesting that the Corona Task Force, ie PM Benjamin Netanyahu and Minister Yaakov Litzman, allow barbershops to open. His logic then was that after Pesach people will not be able to get haircuts due to being in the middle of the Omer, so there was a pressing need to allow haircuts before Pesach, even though it was not within the regulations. or the spirit of the regulations. He wanted them to make an exception for haircuts in barbershops because of the Omer situation after Pesach.
And now MK Abubtbol is requesting that despite the regulations, or at least the expected regulations, for Lag B'Omer, will have Meron closed to the public (and possibly only open to a number of pre-approved rabbonim to have small bonfires), they open it to the public for haircuts for young children. Abutbol explains that it is a holy minhag to wait until a child is 3 years old and to go to Meron on lag B'Omer for the first haircut.Abubtol suggests allowing it for children who pre-register and the haircuts can be staggered with each child being given a time to be there, rather than having it in large crowds as usual. Also the empty parking lots could be used and partitioned off to different areas with 19 people in each, similar to the minyanim now allowed at the Kotel (for people who live in the Old City).
I don't know that this is an issue important enough to fight over, when minyanim are barely allowed and when yeshivas are not open. I still cannot believe that people find things like this more important than being machmir on health concerns that they are willing to try to put pressure on the government to get this allowed. Corona does not just go away and stay away just because you successfully pressured the government to allow your event.
I wish them all good health and recommend they are either wait a little longer until the country opens up some more and/or the Corona threat goes away. Or they can just give the chalaka somewhere else - such as at home.
With the gradual easing of regulations anyway, with every few days being a little bit more returned closer to normal, this all may be moot by then anyways. By then haircuts might be allowed. I suspect even with that Lag B'Omer in Meron might be shut down, just like Pesach was shut down and Yom Haatzmaut will be, but if the numbers improve enough before then, perhaps it will be somewhat open and possible.
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Apr 1, 2020
Tweet of the Day
שימו לב לפרט הזה:— נחמיה גרשוני-איילהו (@Nehemia_GA) April 1, 2020
איפה חילקו היום דוחות על תפילה בבית כנסת בבית שמש?
האם לא מדובר בבית כנסת שמי ששולט בכל מה שזז בו ולמעשה הקים אותו, הוא *חבר הכנסת* משה אבוטבול, מש״ס?
כמה שולט? תקנו אותי אם אני טועה, אבל מזה שנים הרבה פגישותיו הפרטיות של אבוטבול מתקיימות בחדר הסמוך לבית הכנסת pic.twitter.com/zIYdK3bkDU
Translation:
Pay Attention to the detail... Where was a 5000nis fine handed out today for services being held in a shul?
Isn't this the shul that was founded and is controlled by MK Moshe Abutbol, of Shas?
How much does he control the shul? If I am not mistaken, for many years already Abutbol holds many of his private meetings in one of the rooms next to the Bet Knesset
1. so it is not just the extremists in RBS B
2. If government officials are not going to cooperate with the rules and shut their own shuls down, how do they expect and demand that other people follow the rules?
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