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Mar 20, 2016

the cause of the 402 bus crash

Rav Zilberstein, a great posek with very interesting shiurim in halacha, has said, while commemorating a month since the horrific bus accident with the 402 bus line that killed 6 people (all Haredim), said something noteworthy.

Rav Zilberstein quoted from the writings of Rav Wosner zt"l who wrote that women should not be allowed to learn to drive as it causes immodesty and is the opposite of "kol kvoda bat melech pnima", as when driving she is putting herself in the markets and streets in front of people and causing them to "stumble". Rav Wosner continued to write that he had a feeling that women driving is one of the causes of the terrible road accidents in Eretz Yisrael, when connected with all the other sins in the roads that create the dangers in the roads.

Rav Zilberstein went on to say that Rav Wosner was the posek of the generation, so in heaven they pasken like he did down here.
source: Kikar

I am not anybody to argue, and I have no information one way or the other as to what causes such road accidents, but I do sometimes wonder how they come up with these ideas of cause and effect, how they make these connections, and what they base it on. For example, in this case of the 402, the driver was not a woman, so why connect female drivers to the issue?

And, it does not seem to me that it has to be a tzniyus problem to have a owen driver... see below for explanation:




though despite it not being a tzniyus problem it will still be in conflict with kol kvoda bat melech pnima...





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7 comments:

  1. My guess is that in addition to driving recklessly and speeding, he was talking on his cell phone, probably to a woman. So, if women hadn't been allowed to use telephones, the accident would not have happened.

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  2. Is this a Rav from the same community that forces women to leave their homes every day to earn money for their rent and food? Maybe this Rav should be complaining about the thousands of men who force their wives into the streets in order to pay for their lazy a**es to sit in Kollel all day.

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  3. In a similar vein to my previous comment, I have to admit that I can not respect anyone who blames the murder of 6 passengers on women being allowed to drive. Such a person is barely a Rav, in my eyes, and is certainly no Gadol.

    The world needs more women drivers and fewer self-proclaimed know-it-alls.

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  4. If they paken like this in heaven then I want to go to hell that must be were the tzadikim go

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  5. If they gave a ticket to a guy wearing a talit over his head while driving, they should give a ticket to someone wearing a burka. Peripheral vision is super important on the road.

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  6. I would think that it is much more tzanua to get in your car and drive to where you are going, then have to walk (on the street) to the bus stop, wait at the bus stop, get on the bus with men etc.

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  7. So this fellow thinks that women riding on a bus (instead of of driving themselves) died horribly - because of women who drive instead of riding the bus?

    Great Heavenly Judge he works for there...

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