Showing posts with label term limits. Show all posts
Showing posts with label term limits. Show all posts
Nov 22, 2021
reversing the law
MK Benjamin Netanyahu (Likud) related to the term limits bill being worked on. Netanyahu commented on how evil it is, how he has more support than the people passing it, how it is anti-democratic, etc... The interesting thing he said is that when we return to power we will abolish this law.
This is an interesting point to consider.
We all know they will try to abolish all the laws this current government has passed and will pass. Netanyahu's government with the Haredi parties did this very thing after Netanyahu's government with Lapid and Bennett fell apart. No problem. that si what governments do. they pass laws that they think are important and try to reverse laws passed by the previous government that they do not like.
What is interesting about this is that if this law passes, and presumably it will, even should the Likud return to power in the near future, if this government collapses and we go to elections and Likud can form a government, Netanyahu would not be able to be Prime Minister, because of this law (unless he is officially excepted from the law)
For Netanyahu to be Prime Minister again, the Likud would have "win" the next elections, whenever they might be, and form a government. That government would have to reverse the law. That government led by some other Likudnik would have to resign from leading the Likud and let Netanyahu take over the reigns. Probably via primaries, but the process is the same - a sitting PM head of Likud would have to be replaced for Netanyahu.
Besides for this requiring some time to happen, and every additional year moves Netanyahu a little closer to not being electable just because of his age, if someone takes over the Likud in the interim (which would have to happen for Likud to return to power) that would be a major fight to replace him or her with Netanyahu. One of the things Likud has always been proud of is that it does not replace incumbents. It is a very difficult process. There have been very few heads of the Likud, and once someone else takes over the position, because of this law, it wont be quite so simple to switch back.
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Quote of the Day
I heard the claim that this law is personal - that is correct. It is personal against Naftali Bennett, who is the presiding Prime Minister, and it is personal against me, as the law establishes that I will be the next Prime Minister.
We are legislating it because it is not healthy for the Israeli democracy to have a person ruling it for more than 8 years. We see and hear these days in the courts how extended rule leads to corruption. We are putting this to an end.
I have heard the claim that this law does not exist in any parliamentary democracy. Well, in no other parliamentary democracy has a Prime Minister ruled despite having three serious indictments served for crimes committed while in office.
-- Foreign Minister Yair Lapid
I dont think most people are worried that without this law Lapid or Bennett might remain in office for more than 8 years...
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Yair Lapid
Nov 14, 2021
his opinions only apply to everyone else
In light of the discussion now about a law being pushed by Minister of Justice Gideon Saar to impose term limits (with a debate if it should apply retroactively, ie to Benjamin Netanyahu, or not) on all prime ministers of Israel to a maximum of 8 years, the Likud just issued a statement.
The Likud statement says that Former Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu rejects the calls for any sort of term limits, whether it applies to him or not. Parliamentary democracies do not have term limits but leave it up to the public to decide who should lead it in free elections... etc etc
Yes, there is a difference in this between parliamentary governments and presidential governments, but in essence there is no real reason why there must be a difference why term limits is a good idea in one and not in the other.
And to remind you, back in 1997, Netanyahu led the efforts to propose term limits. Netanyahu was doing so as part of his push to move to a presidential system and away from the parliamentary system we had, and still have. Netanyahu said then that a prime minister should not be allowed to serve for more than two terms - with that being enough to accomplish your goals and after that it would be time to move on.
Sure, Netanyahu has the right to change his mind. Especially when it comes to himself. Just as he changed his mind when he said Olmert should resign upon indictment but when it came to himself being indicted he chose not to resign.
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Oct 5, 2021
term limits
Minister of Justice is pushing forward preparing a law that would limit a prime minister to 8 years in office.
While the push now for term limits has been criticized recently as a "personal" law, as it was thought to be pushed simply as a way to prevent Benjamin Netanyahu from returning to the Prime Minister's office, in Saar's proposal he is reportedly excluding Netanyahu from this limit - Netanyahu would be able to run for office again, even if this law will pass.
This is not a personal law, just good governance.
I have always been in favor of term limits and have complained for a long time about the lack of them. I have also been against personal laws, whether proposed during Netanyahu's days against people the government at the time didn't like, and when it has been directed against Netanyahu and his people as well. Saar showed that this is not an anti-Netanyahu law but a good government law.
In my opinion, term limits is necessary and is a good law. I am happy it won't be tainted as being anti-Netanyahu specifically.
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May 9, 2021
if a unity government is coming, this is what I want
Nobody knows if this unity government will successfully be formed between the right, center and left parties (Yamina, Tikva, Yisrael Beyeteynu, Yesh Atid, Labor, Meretz and one of the Arab parties). Netanyahu was not able to form a coalition, and I am sure they will not find it so easy either.
I would hope for at least this from them though, if they do successfully overcome the challenges and form a government...
First, I would like them to cut down the size of the government. I don't know if a maximum of 18 ministers, as Lapid used to talk about, is realistic with so many parties in the mix, but maybe that can be the eventual goal with a current maximum of 22 or 24 ministers. We don't need a bloated government again, with overlapping ministries and unclear responsibility.
Second, I would like them to pass term limits for Prime Minister. I would not mind it for MKs and Ministers in general (though the limits might be different), but the role of PM needs to have this. This has been promised for decades already, but every PM has avoided actually passing it.
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Feb 14, 2018
Netanyahu scandal shows the need for term limits in Israel
By the way, all this going on now, with the recommendations for indictment of Netanyahu for fraud and bribery, the not resigning, the calls for him to resign, the investigations, the support, the calls for Alshich to resign, the accusations that Alshich has it in for Netanyahu, the accusations of Alshich being a dictator, etc...
All that is why I think we need term limits for the PM position (and maybe for others) in Israel. When a leader is in office too long, he thinks the office belongs to him and he can get away with anything and that everybody else has to answer to him.
I have no idea if Netanyahu did or did not do what the police are saying he did. It is not my job to come to any conclusions on this. I'll let the justice system work its magic and come to its conclusions.
Do I think Netanyahu should resign? I think Netanyahu should not be PM because I think Israel needs term limits. As great as a prime minister as he might be, I think it is unhealthy for a democracy to have the same leaders in power for too long. Netanyahu should resign, regardless of the current scandal.
All that is why I think we need term limits for the PM position (and maybe for others) in Israel. When a leader is in office too long, he thinks the office belongs to him and he can get away with anything and that everybody else has to answer to him.
I have no idea if Netanyahu did or did not do what the police are saying he did. It is not my job to come to any conclusions on this. I'll let the justice system work its magic and come to its conclusions.
Do I think Netanyahu should resign? I think Netanyahu should not be PM because I think Israel needs term limits. As great as a prime minister as he might be, I think it is unhealthy for a democracy to have the same leaders in power for too long. Netanyahu should resign, regardless of the current scandal.
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May 4, 2016
Proposed Law: Term Limits
The issue of introducing term limits into the Israeli government system is back on the table.
A law proposal has been submitted for the upcoming session of Knesset. The proposal, submitted by the Opposition but including support from some coalition members, including some from the Likud, would limit the Prime Minister's ability to stay in that position for two term.
Obviously it does not have a reasonable chance of passing, but ya never know.
Supposedly, senior Likudniks have been talking about this as a possibility, and MK Oren Hazzan has even come out publicly in favor.
source: Ynet
Personally I think some sort of term limits is important. However it has to be constructed in a way that will work. In Israel's political system, the term limits cannot be just defined as "two terms". Governments rarely last their full term. If two terms is the limit, one prime minister could last 9 or so years, and the next could hit his limit after two years. Either the entire system needs to be changed or the term limits law would have to include a quantification by number of years in office.
As well, I am against any law that is designed to affect a specific person. This law seems to be targeting Netanyahu himself, so I am against it. I think there should be term limits, but if they pass this law, Netanyahu should be grandfathered in to allow him to continue, and maybe just limit him to two more "terms".
I do think Netanyahu should step down in the near future and leave politics. Not because I don't like him, but because I do not think it is healthy for any democracy to be ruled by one person for so long. Despite the fact that I think Netanyahu should no longer be Prime Minister of Israel, I am not in favor of removing him by introducing a law to get rid of him.
A law proposal has been submitted for the upcoming session of Knesset. The proposal, submitted by the Opposition but including support from some coalition members, including some from the Likud, would limit the Prime Minister's ability to stay in that position for two term.
Obviously it does not have a reasonable chance of passing, but ya never know.
Supposedly, senior Likudniks have been talking about this as a possibility, and MK Oren Hazzan has even come out publicly in favor.
source: Ynet
Personally I think some sort of term limits is important. However it has to be constructed in a way that will work. In Israel's political system, the term limits cannot be just defined as "two terms". Governments rarely last their full term. If two terms is the limit, one prime minister could last 9 or so years, and the next could hit his limit after two years. Either the entire system needs to be changed or the term limits law would have to include a quantification by number of years in office.
As well, I am against any law that is designed to affect a specific person. This law seems to be targeting Netanyahu himself, so I am against it. I think there should be term limits, but if they pass this law, Netanyahu should be grandfathered in to allow him to continue, and maybe just limit him to two more "terms".
I do think Netanyahu should step down in the near future and leave politics. Not because I don't like him, but because I do not think it is healthy for any democracy to be ruled by one person for so long. Despite the fact that I think Netanyahu should no longer be Prime Minister of Israel, I am not in favor of removing him by introducing a law to get rid of him.
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