Showing posts with label police. Show all posts
Showing posts with label police. Show all posts
Jun 17, 2026
Picture of the Day
this morning's anti-haredi-draft protests got very violent very quickly with police having no patience for it and using stun grenades and their heavy batons to beat protestors bloody...
as I have said before, the Israel Police have always been too violent... if anyone deserves to be at the other end of that violent baton it is people, any people, who shut down the country by blocking roads (the blocking of roads is violence against innocent bystanders), especially during rush hour traffic but any other time as well, but I am not sure anyone really deserves to be at the end of that violent baton... (note: I am using "violent baton" as a noun - the baton is not violent, but the policeman wielding it is)
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Jun 14, 2026
why arrest them?
On Friday afternoon a news blurb went out about a Chassidishe avreich coming in via the airport with his young daughter having been arrested/detained and handed over to the Military Police for being a deserter. The Eida Hachareidis put out an announcement with a threat that if he is not released immediately the airport would be completely shut down in the coming days.
Shortly after that notice, another notice hit the news that the avreich was released.
This was after another arrest attempt Friday morning that was thwarted by the Peleg system for dealing with these arrests by sending mobs out.
I don't get it. If they are just going to let these guys go anyway once the Peleg or Eida make their threats or send out their crowds, why are they arresting these people at all? They look extremely weak in light of how frequently they are backing down to threats. if they are just going to release them anyway, don't even bother arresting them.
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Mar 30, 2026
Fined for driving under the influence
As reported on Behadrei, a [Haredi] driver was pulled over by a police officer and given a 1000nis fine for wearing tefillin while driving. A new variation of a DUI - Driving Under the Influence...
According to the report, it seems the policeman considered the wrapped arm to be an impediment to driving properly. There is no statement from the ticketing officer nor from the Spokesperson of the Police, but the lawyer, who literally wrote the book on traffic law, according to the report, surmises that to be the problem.
If the fellow were laying/wrapping the tefilln while driving, I could understand the problem. Like applying makeup while driving, like shaving while driving. Like talking on a phone while driving. Just wearing the already wrapped tefillin? I dont see a problem and dont see how that is different than wearing anything else, even something unusual like a costume on Purim. As long as his movement is not restricted by it in any significant matter I do not see why wearing tefillin should be a poblem.
That being said, from a halachic perspectivee I am not sure driving while wearing tefillin is appropriate. When one is wearing tefillin one is meant to be focused on the tefillin. Being involved in anything that is distracting should not be done or is a reason to remove the tefillin. When one is driving one must pay attention to the road, not focus on the tefillin. This, in my opinion, is the ultimate "hesech hadaas" of the tefillin. I see people driving while wrapped not too infrequently, but in my opinion it is not appropriate.
this brings new meaning to the DUI - Driving Under the Influence
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May 27, 2024
Quote of the Day
I accept the anger of the Haredi sector, and they are right. Yesterday's violence of several soldiers was superfluous, exaggerated and not acceptable. From the day I entered this office as Minister of National Security I committed to back up the policemen and soldiers, and that is what I have done - at every opportunity when our heroes experienced ugly shaming and violence against them. But shoving old men and hitting women - that is not what I meant. I was very angry when I saw that and I immediately took care to suspend those soldiers.
-- Minister Itamar Ben Gvir
oops. That's not what I meant. I told the I would back them up when they beat up protestors and are overly aggressive against people and crowds, but I didnt mean they should beat up old men and women...
They probably dont even understand why they have been suspended, considering the mixed messages he is sending...
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May 26, 2024
violence breeds violence
While many Haredim (some are calling them extremists from the various extreme communities) have spent the later part of the day flocking to Meron, despite the closure and the danger of missiles from Hezbollah, the police have been trying to keep them off. Some incidents of violence have been reported. Despite the danger and the breaking of the rules, I don't think violence like this is warranted - a Magav soldier shoving an elderly man who does not seem to be violent or a threat to the ground. The elderly man needed to be taken tot he hospital to have his wounds treated.
מה החרדי המבוגר הזה כבר עשה לשוטר שהחליט לדחוף אותו לעבר האספלט כאילו הוא מחבל הנוחבה???
— Yaniv Turgeman (@YanivTurgi) May 26, 2024
חרפה שאין כדוגמתה! pic.twitter.com/Vy3LrMG9MK
People are shocked and wondering how this can happen.
Violence breeds more violence. The police and Magav in Israel were always overly violent to begin with. Now they have a Minister in charge of them who encourages them to be even more violent than they were in many situations, and the violence just breeds more violence. They cant turn it on and off at a whim.
The violent tendencies of the police need to be rooted out. You cant pick out one incident and judge it. They arent violent in a vacuum.
Yes, the police have a lot to deal with. Protestors, people who think the law doesn't apply to them, terrorism, danger. Today they were forced to be present in one of the most dangerous spots in Israel because some people think the law doesnt apply to them and maybe they were frustrated at the situation and at the people. None of that is a good recipe for calm enforcement, but with violence too often encouraged, the chances for explosive situations increases tenfold..
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Sep 19, 2023
salute me!
Pretty funny and seemingly weird, but I dont know that it is really as bad as it is being made out to be.
According to Channel 12 News, Minister of National Security Itamar Ben Gvir has given new orders to the police. Until now police officers were obligated to salute in the presence of heads of state, including the President, the Prime Minister, all Supreme Court Justices, Speaker of the Knesset, and all government Ministers.
According to the new orders, Supreme Court Justices and government Ministers were removed form the list and no longer need to be saluted by police officers. the only minister remaining in the list that they must salute is Itamar Ben Gvir himself - Minister of National Security.
This is funny and sounds a bit megalomaniacal.
While the Chief of Police initially signed off no this putting it into effect, he then retracted (after the public criticism hit the fan) and sent it to be decided on by a committee within 7 days.
I dont know who salutes whom elsewhere and what is right and appropriate here but it does not seem so illogical. IDF soldiers dont (as far as I know) have to salute ministers and whatnot - they salute up their chain of command and the Prime Minister. So it doesnt seem to me to be a big deal that while police officers no longer have to salute ministers in general they still have to salute up their chain of command, and that includes the Minister of National Security.
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Sep 12, 2023
Uman no longer dfenseless
Despite the fact that Israel has issued a travel advisory warning Israelis not to travel to Ukraine (because of the little war going on there), Israel will be sending a delegation of 20 police officers to protect the High Holiday pilgrims to Uman.
(source: N12)
I am not quite sure what the Israeli police can do against possible incoming rockets from the Russians and how 20 officers will protect the tens of thousands of pilgrims, but Zelenskiyy said he can't offer any security, so Israel decided to send some police. Uman is no longer defenseless! 20 Israeli policemen will protect them!
Ukraine has all their defense systems protecting the major cities, leaving the small cities and hamlets defenseless. I think the Breslav organizations and Meir Porush should protest in the United Nations and in other international bodies that Ukraine does not consider Uman a large and important city worthy of protection and defense.
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Jun 28, 2023
Alshich's words not quite so dramatic
Just to remind you, Roni Alshich was appointed as Chief of Police by PM Benjamin Netanyahu back in 2015. Alshich is not someone who was officially a Leftist or antagonistic to Netanyahu.
According to the government's logic, the Chief Rabbis are appointed byt he people because they are appointed by people who were voted in by the people - ie, the politicians were voted in by the people and they choose the Chief Rabbis, so the people basically chose the Chief Rabbis. On the other hand, the judges choose themselves and were not selected by people voted in by the people (which is not accurate, but not the point) so the judges are not chosen by the people.
Alshich was appointed by Netanyahu and his government in 2015, so by extension that means he was chosen by the people. So if Alshich is against Netanyahu (which isnt clear) does that mean the people, and especially the Likudniks, are against Netanyahu, and maybe even Netanyahu is against Netanyahu? I am scratching my head over this.
Regardless, they are turning Alshich's words into something very dramatic. What he actually said is far less so. Alshich did not say that Netanyahu was framed or that he should have done this or that or that they tried to push him out. All Alshich said was that when they served the indictment nobody expected him not to resign. That is not a big deal. Everyone, and not just the legal word of Israel, but many citizens as well, expected him to resign. Let's not forget, Netanyahu himself said in the time of Olmert that a PM under indictment must resign. Most reasonable people expected Bibi to resign on indictment. That does not mean he was or was not framed.
Alshich's words are not nearly as dramatic as they are being made out to be.
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Apr 2, 2023
Picture of the Day
That is a shot of a mounted policeman hitting a young lady at the hafgana last night in Tel Aviv.
It looks like this was captured as a "still" from one of the many videos of the incident found on the Internet. It is not perfectly clear and is hard to see the nightstick he hits her with.
And, we don't know why, what she did, if anything. Minister Ben Gvir says he is going to investigate and demand answers.
For a few months now Ben Gvur has been screaming about equality in police violence saying the police treat the leftist protests with silk gloves yet when there are right wing or Haredi protests they get violent very quickly. Well, he got his wish. The police have gotten to their violent ways with the leftists as well, as in recent weeks we have seen an escalation of police violence at these protests (whether "justified" or not, I dont know).. So instead of Ben Gvr working to cut down on police violence, he has extended it.
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Sep 21, 2022
is the British Mandate still in effect?
I dont want to say this is reminiscent of the British during the Mandate period, but it sort of is.
Israel Police needs to stop getting involved in these heavy handed activities when no law is being broken. I could understand if this was happening on Har Habayit, they need to keep the peace, it is at least debatable. But outside the city walls?
Har Habayit activist Yehuda Glick and buddies were arrested for blowing shofar outside the walls of Har Habayit. Glick went to court and the court supported him saying there is nothing wrong with him blowing the shofar there.
Shortly after Glick went back with his buddies and again blew shofar outside the walls of the Old City and Temple Mount on the Eastern side, and despite the court ruling, the police again put a stop to it and arrested them.
In that second video, Robert Weinger is blowing the shofar to the tune of Hatikva. I never heard of this fellow, but the Jewish Press says he is one of the best shofar blowers in the world. I have no idea how that is rated and who tested the various candidates.
Israel Police needs to stop getting involved in these heavy handed activities when no law is being broken. I could understand if this was happening on Har Habayit, they need to keep the peace, it is at least debatable. But outside the city walls?
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Mar 22, 2022
hero's gun taken by police
It was reported that the fellow who shot the terrorist in Beer Sheva had his weapon confiscated by the police.
In general that might be a reasonable thing. There was a shooting. That itself is a traumatic event. Even though it was in response to an attack. The entire incident needs to be investigated and the shooting needs to be cleared. I am pretty sure that is how it works everywhere. Hopefully he will be vindicated and the shooting declared just and his weapon will be returned to him. Just because it looks kosher to us does not mean it shouldnt be looked into and cleared officially as a good shooting.
I just hope that that is the reason the gun was taken from him, and not confiscated because he actually used it despite being necessary. If that is why it was taken, why give gun permits to citizens at all?
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Feb 24, 2022
Haredi Children Sing in Protest of Israel Police (video)
interesting - usually you see this at protests, not in recording studios...
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The B'tzelem Elokim organization, which works to prevent police violence against haredim, on Wednesday morning released a video clip starring a choir of haredi children.
In the clip, the children can be viewed singing a popular alef-bet (alphabet) song, with the words changed to reflect their protest against police violence.
At the end of the video, viewers are invited to send footage and testimonies of police violence to B'tzelem Elokim, which promises to have a legal professional examine the materials and decide whether or not to file complaints against the police officers involved.
In a statement, B'tzelem Elokim said, "We are continuing our important activities to expose the violence which many in the haredi community, as well as the broader public, have experienced, out of a belief that by creating an organized system for reporting these instances, we can cause rebellious police officers to think several times before they raise their hand against haredim or in general."
"It is important for us to emphasize that the vast majority of Israel Police is made up of good and worthy people who work to protect us. It seems to us a shame that a small and violent handful ruins everyone's good name, and we have no doubt that it is in the interest of Israel Police itself to act to stop the violent police officers."
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Feb 9, 2022
lost trust
questions are now being raised if the Calcalist report on the police spying via the Pegasus app is even true or accurate. Did it even really happen?
Well, I dont know if it did or did not. I assume they are anyway, as much as possible, even before Pegasus. I also assume that once you are on the Internet you have no privacy, no matter if you think you do.
What I am wondering is, even if the police want to claim that the report was not accurate and they never did that and everything was legal and with warrants or permission or whatever legal method they might come up with - I think it is too late. The public already believes it happens. Their trust in the system is damaged.
What I am wondering is, even if the police want to claim that the report was not accurate and they never did that and everything was legal and with warrants or permission or whatever legal method they might come up with - I think it is too late. The public already believes it happens. Their trust in the system is damaged.
Even if the police go on a big campaign that they did not do it, how do they get back the trust of the public (if they ever even had it)?
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Feb 8, 2022
getting what they gave
I find it interesting, and maybe ironic, that back in 2020 when Covid first started, the government put in place the ability to track people via their mobile phones and gave itself permission to do so, along with the Shabak.
Some people, many people, threw a fit, talking about overreach, breach of basic rights, privacy, etc. The people in government didn't care but deemed it necessary due to the pandemic and approved it. And they tracked people.
And now the big scandal is that the police were tracking the mobile phones of people in government (and other high places in Israel) and were spying on them this way. And the government people are all throwing a fit about it, about the discovery that they were being tracked and spied on.
hmmmm
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Feb 7, 2022
biting your nose to spite the face
I am finding it fascinating to see the calls from MKs (including formers ministers, deputy ministers and even prime ministers) on the "Right" for an investigative committee appointed by the government into the discovery of the police spying on Israeli citizens via spy software on phones.
Why?
Because this has been going on for years. It did not just start a few months ago and quickly get revealed. That means this happened under their own governments, for years, the ones they served in and headed.
This investigation of some sort is absolutely necessary (I dont know or care which type, but an investigation is necessary). I can only imagine the committee discovering past Ministers of Internal Security, those responsible for the police, and maybe others as well, being discovered as either having been asleep at the job or being complicit. I can only imagine the irony of them calling for the investigation thinking they are harming this current government only to discover they will have brought themselves down int he process.
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investigate the police
I know I am not saying anything novel here...
Every day that goes by this police spying on citizens and politicians scandal just gets bigger and bigger. The police in Israel have always been a violent bunch. It might be somewhat understandable with the need to fight terror and violent protests and whatnot, but the image of the police here as law enforcement is not of a body trying to keep the public safe (even though that really is what they are doing) and of being helpful to the public, but more of a forecful unit imposing its will (of what I am not sure - the government? the judiciary? the law? the police?) on the people. And if the people dont like it, too bad on the people - it isnt up to them.
This spying on citizens phones shows the police have gone way too far. This needs to be investigated, and not by police investigators.
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Aug 31, 2021
what should the police do?
There was an unfortunate incident in RBS B yesterday evening in which the police, working to enforce the indoor mask rules, stopped a maskless woman in the store (based on the reports in the news). When she refused to cooperate and identify herself, the police decided to detain her, and take her to the station for questioning and for her to eventually identify herself. The situation quickly escalated with people form the neighborhood surrounding the police car and acting in a threatening way. Eventually the police just released the woman to calm the situation.
Partial video of the arrest was publicized and spread initially via Whatsapp:
My initial reaction upon seeing this video was mixed.
On the one hand, it is sad that the situation has gotten to this. arrests over masks (though I know the arrest is really because she refused to identify herself and cooperate with the police, not because she wasn't wearing a mask).
On the other hand, the arrest was not violent. they seemed to treat her decently, only pushing her when she tried pulling away. they had female police officers handling her, obviously being sensitive to her religious sensibilities. the police didn't beat her up or anything like that. The violence was surrounding the arrest - the people around were screaming and eventually pushing ands threatening, but the arrest itself seems ok.
Most people don't resist arrest. They commit a crime, fine, but once the police catch them they either take the fine or go with the police. People who resist arrest are either repeat criminals who are used to this, or people who are trained to do so. This is a community where resisting the national authority and the police is ingrained in them. She resisted the demands of the police (for identification) so she was arrested, and then she resisted going peacefully with the police, so she was pushed toward the car. She was not an innocent woman being beaten up by the police.
Many are shocked by the police actions in the video but I don't see anything so shocking. The situation was escalating quickly, the police wanted to get out of there quickly before it would get really bad. This is a neighborhood that regularly fights, physically, with the police and refuses to have the law apply to them. Sometimes we scream that the police need to go in and stop the lawlessness - so now that it is a woman we should tell the police to let lawlessness reign?
The police in Israel have a reputation of being overly violent and abusive. Maybe that is true and maybe police reform is needed. That is entirely possible. In this case I don't see them as having been abusive. I am not sure what they should have done in this situation beyond what they tried to do - detain the woman and get out of there quickly. they ultimately failed, but I think they tried to do the right thing. They can't just walk away when the citizen breaks the law right in front of them and they refuse to comply. Those who are shocked and angry over this - what would they have the police do?
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May 12, 2021
Responsibility without blame
I assume Minister of Internal Security Amir Ohana's words form after the Meron tragedy apply equally today.
Back then he said "I am responsible [for the tragedy] but responsibility does not mean blame." He said that to deflect calls for his resignation in light of the permits given by police, or at least allowing the event to go on, despite failures in compliance with safety codes.
The rioting in many cities, but especially in Lod where it might have been the worst, with shuls being destroyed and torched, private residences and businesses and cars being attacked, vandalized, people being attacked, stones thrown, people lynched, with the police mostly staying away and not putting down the uprising should really lead to the resignation of at least the minister in charge - being Minister Amir Ohana.
But I assume he would say now what he said then - sure, I am responsible, but that does not mean I am to blame.
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Mar 21, 2021
Picture of the Day
Police officers set to secure the Balfour demonstrations last night as Shabbos was concluding use their masks as kippas to hear havdala...
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Jan 25, 2021
MK Pindrus: the police are running a power struggle with the Haredi public (video)
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